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Old 2015-11-20, 10:21   Link #9201
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yeah, that was the word

but eizan seems to be more into money instead of cooking, so i dont see a reason for him to take a "useless path" if he could have gone into the whole economy-world directly
it is as if you only do basketball for the money and you are actually really good in it but the same would have been true if you simply directly went into the management where money would come without the side-effort of training for the sport/learning for the shokugeki
Maybe he entered with the idea of being an elite ten to use the benefits of that spot (the knowledge and secret techniques told many chapters ago) to improve the service he do, ensuring a better work and more clients.
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Old 2015-11-20, 10:32   Link #9202
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Because of too many new development, I really almost forget this series is a cooking manga by the time Eizan started cooking for real.

Recently everything is so business-like that Im not used to seeing food and ingerdient anymore.
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Old 2015-11-20, 10:34   Link #9203
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Old 2015-11-20, 10:38   Link #9204
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Do remember that he become rich by being a food consultant.

I think he does have talent in cooking, but he doesn't want to just become a good chef.

If you have talent you need to use it after all. And since he is good at cooking, he use it along the business talent to get money. There is also the possibility that he likes the works.

And the prestige inside the school especially as an Elite Ten, will give him impression that this consultant is actually good at what he is consulting of. You don't want a Finance Consultant that live in a dump, do you?

And food industry is one of the industry whose market wouldn't diminish. Everyone need to eat, and want to eat good food. That's why in RL those Food Conglomerate is very rich.
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Old 2015-11-20, 10:47   Link #9205
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Maybe he entered with the idea of being an elite ten to use the benefits of that spot (the knowledge and secret techniques told many chapters ago) to improve the service he do, ensuring a better work and more clients.
at least in my view he never really seemed to care much about food

^im not saying that food-thingys arent rich, only that eizan seems to like money more than food, so the choice to go into cooking instead of economy seems strange :/
btw, eizan clearly seems to have business skills, hell, he got as rich as the school after his first year... i doubt that this could be achieved with "average business abilitys"
PS: the "prestige" thing really could have influenced his decision
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Old 2015-11-20, 11:08   Link #9206
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Wow, Souma totally voiced out the exact same questioning I've seen so many times on this forum. It was as if the author's trying to answer it for us lol. Now I'm looking forward to the answer too, that is, whether Eizan can really cook. Of course I'm not saying that he can't cook, but when it comes to a skill-oriented profession like being a chef, but at his level, there's still a little bit of something that only people who polished their blades and use it again and again every single day could achieve. It's like the level of masteries over tiny gestures and moves that makes the difference between a capable cook and a good one.

I think Eizan might have huge knowledge about food types, but going for a long time without touching the kitchen himself could possibly dull his movements with knives and pots, sort of like Marui, if Marui were a mafia. In other words, even if Eizan have 1000 recipes memorized in his head, it's still hard for him to pull off the exact moves to a high degree of precision, coz such things would require constant practicing, which he never did.

As he try to cook a high-class dish with unpracticed hands, Eizan will create a gap between the expected level of the food and the actual result, and that gap is something Souma can use to defeat him, even if Souma's level as a cook might be lower.

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well, cant say im against eizans thoughts
people becoming chiefs because of money is the reason i can understand the most, but if he was so fixated on becoming rich, shouldnt he have visited a economy school? im sure purely working with money makes someone a lot faster rich than cooking
Why would he need to? From what I can see in Eizan's flashback, he was already knowledgable enough in that field that they might as well make him a teacher, if he ever join a business school. Further more, doing business is mostly about bringing products to customers who want them in return for profit, so for Eizan, "cooking" is essentially the product that he wanted to use to make money. He might have said that he wanted to join the cooking industry because it's "lucrative", but from a business man's point of view, it's "lucrative" only because Eizan himself is interested in cooking, whereas a young man of that much capability should be able to make money out of anything. In other words, at heart he actually liked to cook, but in his head he always seemed to think that his goal was to becoming rich. I believe Souma is about to rectify that in maybe a couple of chapters or so.

Incidentally, if this were an actual battle manga, Rindou would be a femme fatale, my favourite as antagonist XD Heck, she wouldn't even be half as interesting if she were on Souma's side. I hope she doesn't change sides later.
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Old 2015-11-20, 11:34   Link #9207
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Souma is voicing the debates of readers of if Eizan can really cook or not. Souma is the voice of the people

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Wow, Souma totally voiced out the exact same questioning I've seen so many times on this forum. It was as if the author's trying to answer it for us lol. Now I'm looking forward to the answer too, that is, whether Eizan can really cook. Of course I'm not saying that he can't cook, but when it comes to a skill-oriented profession like being a chef, but at his level, there's still a little bit of something that only people who polished their blades and use it again and again every single day could achieve. It's like the level of masteries over tiny gestures and moves that makes the difference between a capable cook and a good one.

I think Eizan might have huge knowledge about food types, but going for a long time without touching the kitchen himself could possibly dull his movements with knives and pots, sort of like Marui, if Marui were a mafia. In other words, even if Eizan have 1000 recipes memorized in his head, it's still hard for him to pull off the exact moves to a high degree of precision, coz such things would require constant practicing, which he never did.

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THIS. And let's not forget that Soma is cooking not just for himself but for the whole PSD members. and it has been stated many times that cooking for someone will always have an edge to those who are only cooking for themselves.

There's two result I can see in end of this match. It's either Souma wins because of what I stated above or Souma loses but somehow manage to reignites Eizan's passion in cooking. That might convince him to rethink his stance in the school. Typical shonen stuff and whatnot.
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Old 2015-11-20, 11:37   Link #9208
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but eizan seems to be more into money instead of cooking, so i dont see a reason for him to take a "useless path" if he could have gone into the whole economy-world directly
it is as if you only do basketball for the money and you are actually really good in it but the same would have been true if you simply directly went into the management where money would come without the side-effort of training for the sport/learning for the shokugeki
So what? To him, cooking is a way to earn moolah, and he's pretty darn successful in doing it. Don't be surprised if he turns out to be a billionaire later on.

Now, the question is, who would save Souma's ass?

Yugi? Isshiki? Or maybe even Azami?
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Old 2015-11-20, 12:12   Link #9209
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So what? To him, cooking is a way to earn moolah, and he's pretty darn successful in doing it. Don't be surprised if he turns out to be a billionaire later on.

Now, the question is, who would save Souma's ass?

Yugi? Isshiki? Or maybe even Azami?
Obviously Soma himself by defeating Eizan.

See? I am not the only one who doubt Eizan's ability to cook. Even a FREAKING MANGA CHARACTER THINKS THAT.

Also, those judges were extremely disgusting people.
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Old 2015-11-20, 14:12   Link #9210
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Everyone wants her to foodgasm within the next few chapters.
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Old 2015-11-20, 14:45   Link #9211
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Regarding Eizan's choice of profession: the answr is very simple, cooking is solid business. Even in the current crisis, clothing stores and banks are shutting down one after another, but food chains haven't taken a single step back (at least in my area). Of course, he could go be a stock broker and manage a million times more money (literally), but it is a volatile market, from which he would have to retire sooner or later - cooking, on the other hand, provides a base to expand on, creating his personal empire in the market...I suppose it could be more entertaining, as well.

As for his current fight...his food has been hyped up SO MUCH, that even if it's really good, it shouldn't be that good, while Souma's undersold dish will definitely be a surprise for them all.
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Old 2015-11-20, 16:24   Link #9212
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Obviously Soma himself by defeating Eizan.

See? I am not the only one who doubt Eizan's ability to cook. Even a FREAKING MANGA CHARACTER THINKS THAT.

Also, those judges were extremely disgusting people.
Yeah, from the way I interpreted the chapter didn't hype Eizan's current level but more like his talent/potential being above his current seat number

His rustiness due to lack of cooking might just cost him the match

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Old 2015-11-20, 17:18   Link #9213
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well, cant say im against eizans thoughts
people becoming chiefs because of money is the reason i can understand the most, but if he was so fixated on becoming rich, shouldnt he have visited a economy school? im sure purely working with money makes someone a lot faster rich than cooking
Wouldn't he have more competition there? In the end, it's possible that he was aware of his talent, and decided to monetize it.
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Old 2015-11-20, 17:42   Link #9214
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Souma's ppretty much the voice of the fans there. He's surprised that Eizan is actually a good cook. It's understandable why he focuses more on the business aspect but that could be his downfall.
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Old 2015-11-20, 18:43   Link #9215
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So basically Rindou hyped Eizen's potential as opposed to his actual ability. AKA it's just more pointless hype.

ITT everyone got excited for nothing.
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Old 2015-11-20, 19:31   Link #9216
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Yeah, from the way I interpreted the chapter didn't hype Eizan's current level but more like his talent/potential being above his current seat number

His rustiness due to lack of cooking might just cost him the match
Yup, I can see the rustiness part playing for Eizan's downfall for the next chapter.
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Old 2015-11-20, 19:48   Link #9217
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Goddamn, is Eizan overconfident? This is usually a sign of downfall, I can't wait how this continues.

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Old 2015-11-20, 20:58   Link #9218
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Goddamn, is Eizan overconfident? This is usually a sign of downfall, I can't wait how this continues.
the point is... the judges won't even try the dishes anyway

yeah, the author always brings impossible situations out and solves them easily. Let's see how he deals with it this time!
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Old 2015-11-20, 21:18   Link #9219
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Next Isshiki is going to come in and tell everyone that Azami allowed him to broadcast the match so anyone in Tootsuki can watch it, including Azami himself. If that happens, Eizan will be in serious trouble, as the judges will shit their pants and realize they cannot afford to lose face and be exposed in public. They will have no choice but taste the dish and give an honest verdict.
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Old 2015-11-20, 21:28   Link #9220
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the point is... the judges won't even try the dishes anyway

yeah, the author always brings impossible situations out and solves them easily. Let's see how he deals with it this time!
Not really.

Souma's going up 1st, and if we're gonna see a repeat of Wolverine's match, it doesn't make much sense, narratively.

Unless the author wants to utilize the asspull of asspulls, Eizan should quite comfortably beat Souma. As "insurance", he has the judges' side, as well, if anything unexpectedly goes wrong.
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