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2012-08-28, 05:31 | Link #4182 |
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Seriously, you guys all argue about Mwu doing something stupid, etc.
Mwu knew that the Strike protected Kira when the Aegis blew up in it's face with a broken cockpit hatch. He knew what he was doing, hell, he even had a shield, there was no way he would die piloting the Strike. Mwu = Smartest pilot in the CEverse. |
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2012-08-28, 10:33 | Link #4187 | ||||
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Look, even before Lacus entered the picture for the second time, Kira ended the relationship. He knew he didn't want to go down that road and he didn't. Period. All the drama concerning these two could be brought back to Kira's guilt in not saving her father. If you rewatch the scene where Athrun brings Kira back to the archangel after his failed attempt at saving Fllay, he says something along the words of "she's someone I hurt." No, he didn't say he loved her, he said he hurt her, indicating not that he loved her, but he felt guilty because of her. Quote:
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2012-08-28, 11:52 | Link #4191 |
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It wasn't just a crush. Kira crushed on Fllay when he first saw her before SEED but he did love her that's why he entered a relationship with her. When he found out that he was just using him and that she didn't feel the same way he ended it. By the time he saw Fllay again she was different and he tried to save the woman he loved since she figured out that Kira was the one she wanted to be with. So again, if Fllay was saved than Lacus wouldn't have had a chance with Kira.
Her death was the only thing that stopped Kira from getting with her, Lacus is just the other choice Kira had to settle with. As shown by their weak development and how he doesn't kiss, hug, or even share the same bed as her when Destiny starts. You should pay more attention. It is'nt natural because they only met a few times and Lacus suddenly fell in love with him. Kira though did not feel the same way after a few meetings. He barely knew her so it made sense that he didn't love her, it was only after Fllay died and Lacus forced her feelings on him that Kira settled for her. False, Kira was guilty and needed someone. Cagalli would have been the better choice because they were family. Instead Lacus comforted Kira when she knew he was vulnerable and used that time to try and get him to notice her. After all, Fllay was dead so there was no one left to serve as her competition or to call her out on taking advantage of Kira when he was hurting. Yes it does, are you that blind? Lunamaria knew exactly why Shinn did what he did and that he had no choice. Unlike you Lunamaria isn't spiteful and knows that hating Shinn oer that would be stupid. Instead she emembered their friendship and that they after that event, which was painful for both of them, they still had each other at least. And again, Lunamaria blamed Athrun for what happened and not Shinn since Shinn didn't awnt to kill either of them. There's a difference, as far as Lunamaria cares Shinn wasn't at fault, it was all Athrun. If that person was my best friend that I had feelings for already and knew that they had no choice on the matter on top of feeling the same pain as me than yes. I would cling to them since only they would understand my pain and I know that they didn't want to do what they did but had no choice on top of already having feelings for them. Blaming them over something like that would be stupid and spiteful. |
2012-08-28, 12:07 | Link #4192 | |
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As for Kira not having a crush-like attitude towards Lacus? Of course he wouldn't, nevermind there is a big difference between a simple crush and actual commitment. He had a prior experience that crashed and burnt. He smartened up and thought long and hard about being engaged in another similar situation. Lacus' love for Kira was hardly one sided either. Both of them were committing to a good amount of soul-searching on the matter. Her love for Kira certainly did not happen right away, and it was hardly apparent in SEED. Furthermore, Lacus was not entirely free of relationships either, for she might or might not have had a thing for Athrun before the latter gone rogue. Forcefully patching Fllay and Kira together falls in the realm of a demented, sickening and ugly fantasy. Its unhealthy, and would only do harm than good. - Tak
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2012-08-28, 12:32 | Link #4193 |
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Yes it would. Had Fllay lived than Kira and her would have patched things up and been together. Lacus benefited greatly from her death because Fllay was the girl that Kira desired but lost. And no, that something between Kira and Lacus in their first meeting(Which came off as Kira being confused, especially since he jumped in bed with Fllay the moment she offered even after that event) was nothing compared to how awkward Kira was around Fllay and his clear jealous that she didn't notice that he was in love with her.
He did that because he was a nice guy and knew first hand what the EF would do to her considering that they just tried to screw Kira over and use him because he was a traitor coordinator. Yes it was, Kira didn't love Lacus in that way until after Fllay died and he had no one else when she forced her feelings on him. Feelings that he never even noticed until she made them quite clear and he didn't have Fllay to love anymore. Lacus had no such feelings for Athrun, their marriage was arranged due to reasons outside their control not because they had any interest in each other. Hence why Athrun didn't care that Lacus moved on to Kira or that he fell for Cagalli. It wouldn't have been forceful at all, they had time to think and Fllay decided that she loved Kira and wanted to mend fences so they could be together. Besides, she would be far mre interesting for Kira than Lacus who was created to be too perfct so she could be with the Super Coordinator. Lacus is a Politician, Idol, Captain, Gundam Keeper, Rich, Influential, overly kind to everyone, ridiculously Naive, Everything always goes her way, has many mobile suit friends she can just call up(Like the sudden appearance of Mobile suit pilots during the battle of Orb who came out of nowhere yet were ACE pilots), lack of anger when a normal person would be angry during situations like Meer's death, and the such. She was too perfect and did way too many things with a lack of emotions when she should have them. Fllay though was far from perfect and her flaws worked well alongside Kira who was supposed to be perfect but has how own issues as well. |
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2012-08-28, 12:41 | Link #4195 |
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You know, you might be right.
Every time Fllay and Kira had sex, a little girl with flowers, DIE. How many virgins must be sacrificed to prolong this dark ritual? - Tak
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2012-08-28, 12:44 | Link #4196 |
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None because Fllay wasn't going to use Kira anymore and did love him before her death. Had she returned to Kira their relationship would have gone much slower, since she did feel guilty over using Kira, as she tries to fix the wreck she caused and the pain Kira went through because he did love her.
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Then you accuse me of distorting/expanding on the "facts", and calling me out for being not exceptionally bright because, OMG, I COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT OF A JOKE LIST. Wait, I didn't DO that, SEED obviously did that for you, just typing in what the show actually had/explaining your joke list. Did you even take time out to read through what I just posted? Come on, tell me those things I said didn't REALLY happen. And then, tell me where in my posts I specifically stated that I denied everything you said. No example? Then that's your answer. If there was, I'd see the sense of why you would be so upset at me, but we're still talking about your joke list right? Quote:
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Welcome back! Now if only 4Tran could make cameo as well..
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