2008-03-15, 21:39 | Link #41 |
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
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I feel that behind the whole idea about voting for yourself is because you want to win, and naturally I do believe that most of us do want to win despite what we say about "lets just have fun". Well it is true about it we want to have fun but another part is that we do want to win as it gives a sense of joy. Well not winning is not the end of the world but just a chance to look at others and imporve yourself for next time. As much as your guy want to fluff it by saying that it is just for fun, deep down a part of that fun is looking forward to winning; THIS IS WAR MEN!! (or something like that ).
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2008-03-15, 23:08 | Link #42 | |
Kira_Naruto, the ecchi
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If you really wanted vote for yourself, then use your own quota.
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2008-03-16, 04:47 | Link #45 |
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Let me be a little more blunt. If someone votes for their own entry, but does not vote for at least one other entry, I will disqualify the vote. Sorry but don't make me regret allowing self voting in the first place. If I have to change the rule so that no one can vote for their own entry, I will.
I don't approve of it. I think it's a pointless thing to do. And the rule is designed so that the voter recognizes at least one other person with an entry. Let me be clear, this contest is for fun. Winning is great, don't get me wrong, but the last thing I want to see is ego stroking. Finding at least one other person who deserves a vote IS NOT THAT DIFFICULT. There's 54 entries. If you can tell me honestly that 53 of the entries are completely terrible then I can tell you that you shouldn't bother entering the next contest because you are in fact, a god among graphic designers. @ kayos. Yes, I could. It's possible. Let me know when I need to devote a few hours of personal time for that.
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2008-03-16, 05:04 | Link #46 |
Thinking outside the box
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@Dkz.
Of course everyone want to win. And as mentioned in my previous post in this thread i don't think any of us are a exception to that. But just don't forget the main point of this. And that being: fun and learning things and improving. @kayos You will see something similar like this It's from previous SOTM. You could easily look for who got what amount of vote with that. I might sound like a prick for saying this. But making a ranking would just take a lot of extra time from Solace. And i hate to see effort only being one sided. With that sheet it shouldn't be to much trouble to figure out how much vote everyone got with some ctrl+C and ctrl+F and paste. It's won't be aligned nice and tidy. But you should get a good picture of votes and signatures. Not sure if Solace was being sarcastic about his comment. But if he really doesn't mind to do it. Than nvm me Edit: To slow with posting But seeing Kayos commented already what i said wasn't really necessarily.
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2008-03-16, 05:28 | Link #47 |
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I guess the response was a little sarcastic. Let me be a bit more diplomatic.
Since it was the first voting session, the formating wasn't great. But keep in mind I was using notepad to track votes. It's not exactly easy to copy paste results and organize them into rankings using something like that. Sephi assisted in vote counting and he had a spreadsheet, which was much more organized and was posted when the voting was done. At that point everyone was excited to get the next contest going and everyone moved on pretty quick. On the time side of things, yes it only takes an hour-ish to do what you ask. Keep in mind that's an hour-ish later that announcing results will take, an hour-ish later someone needs to spend organizing and copy/pasting, and an hour-ish later that most people won't care about. It's nice for convenience sake, but for the few who care I think scrolling will work just fine for now. This is what the entry list looks like when I edit it. Keep in mind this is with almost no formatting outside of bolds, img tag, and the list tag. Spoiler for size:
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2008-03-16, 05:50 | Link #48 | |||
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If one does compete to win, sportsmanship should prevent one from voting for oneself, since there is no performance needed to vote for oneself, means if one does win because of one's own vote it usually does not feel like winning because of a good performance. Finally if one tries to desperately win this contest, I seriously question this person's self-esteem. (Like... put the effort into real life problems instead of this contest, that will secure a more enduring fortune for the life) Quote:
For me it really is just fun. And if there is only one person who likes what I created, it even has a purpose (which is all the better). Jinto used his own webspace. But one time (when KiNa asked for another host, because he could not see it) I used Imageshack instead. Quote:
On the other side I think, if there is someone voting for oneself, this person should not need to justify this here. So don't understand me wrong, I actually don't want/need to know your intentions on this matter. It would not affect my voting or my POV for this contest anyway (I am biased only to a signature's content never to the creator).
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2008-03-16, 06:15 | Link #49 | ||
~ You're dead ^__^* ~
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Like I said, it isn't/shouldn't be the end of the world if you lose, this is but a great opportunity to share ideas and improve yourself so you can win next time ^^ or the next...or the next...and maybe the next... Quote:
But that wasn't a rule, just a general opinion on perhaps 70% of the contestants. And I have my theme thought out already WAIFUS! (yes, if anyone wants waifu theme you know what to do ). /runs before I get axed for advertising
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2008-03-16, 06:35 | Link #50 | |
Peek a boo
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2008-03-16, 08:20 | Link #51 |
Kira_Naruto, the ecchi
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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In previous sotm, I learn to draw rocks and onsen.. animate a water portion while having a steam effect. This sotm I learn how to make lightning. I failed at making a blood drop effect good enough to show saphyre tho
And I also value my hair more
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2008-04-21, 04:12 | Link #52 | |
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Essentially, the contest was about "pretty girls in pretty clothing" but just saying that is also vague. Sephi provided an image pack that I felt was pretty much exactly what he was trying to convey the theme was, but it didn't appear that people wanted to review it. Or if they did, they chose to ignore it or had other ideas. I feel for the most part all of the sigs display some form of elegance. As you state, it's open to interpretation but I feel that's ok. The theme was compromised a bit, unfortunately, and I think that soured some people. I can only hope that next month won't be as difficult and that those sour feelings won't persist. On the other hand, bumps like this are expected. As a forum, the contest is still new to us. This is only the third month the SOTM has been running. Personally, I'm amazed response is still strong. I fully expected things to drop off much more than they did (we're slightly less on entries this month than last), especially seeing that the theme was an issue. It's still a bit of a learning experience trying to get things like this sorted out. But I'd hate to get in someones way and start creating rules about how themes should be created and handled. It takes some of the fun out of the process. Perhaps the community wasn't ready for a theme like this, that's hard to say. But they still tried their best to create entries for this theme, and that's extremely commendable. There might have been some that missed the mark but there's still a lot of girls in pretty dresses and there's a lot of creativity on display this month. I'm open to ideas on how to handle Themes from anyone who has some thoughts.
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2008-04-21, 07:21 | Link #53 | ||
Thinking outside the box
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But suppose the theme choice wasn't that good. But with the images provided i thought people would still understand what i had in mind. But it appears not many people bothered with checking them. Or they just don't read anything beside the thread title. Quote:
Overall, my biggest disappointment about this SOTM was the amount of complaints i did received and the very little amount of help people wanted to offer. I tried my best with the theme, and i really thought i had a nice theme going(looks at images). But there are limits to mine and Solace views on things. If only more people helped i'm sure we could of had a smoother SOTM with less unhappy people. But unfortunately this is how the world works. Good things are taken for granted. And bad things are the only things people bother to talk about.
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2008-04-21, 10:00 | Link #54 |
Hina is my goddess
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Just an idea, but i think it would be a good idea to have a thread dedicated to showcasing past winners and their sigs. That was people can check all the winners without having to search out 2 or 3 month old threads. Not sure how the admins would like so many threads for this contest but i think it would be great.
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2008-04-21, 16:31 | Link #56 |
♥Sebastian's new wife♥
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LMAO the drama in the april entry phase thread was hillarious.
Anyways like SeedFreedom, we should have a thread from all of the winners of the SOTM contest and at the end of January, a contest for SOTY (Signature of the year) of 2008. That will be really cool, and would represent the thinking that the Artists did in 2008 ^^, and maybe someone is willing to give special prizes as well.
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2008-04-21, 18:22 | Link #57 | ||||
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But there are limits on how things are viewed. I think your theme was a nice idea that ended on a bittersweet note, but on the bright side there are more months to look forward to. I'm not planning on stopping this just because of some forum drama. And I'm not going to let that drama bother me anymore. Setsilya was effective at one thing - from now on, I'm taking a more moderator approach to the contest. While I may not have the direct authority of a moderator, I'm done with the drama. I'm not going to let it interfere with the contest anymore. If people have a comment, suggestion, or complaint about how the SOTM is run, they can direct it here or speak with me via PM. Any future attempts to derail the entry or voting threads will be handled by me asking them to do the former, and if they persist, the person will be reported to the moderators for them to handle as they see fit. Stirring up trouble in the wrong places is just making people unhappy. I want this contest to be a fun, positive experience. So enough is enough. Links to the generic discussion thread are going to be thrown around more often as a result of the April Contest. As the thread grows, I'll be compiling an FAQ so that answers to common questions can be found more easily. May is a fresh month for all of us. I'm looking forward to putting April behind and chalking it up as a learning experience. Quote:
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2008-04-21, 18:35 | Link #58 |
♥Sebastian's new wife♥
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^ Hmm, maybe anime videos or collectables could be good prizes. Or maybe tickets to a fan club if you're part of one or something for free. Don't really know. but yeah, further discussion as the year goes by =D. If only people are comfortable with the idea, then fine.
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2008-04-22, 03:24 | Link #59 | |
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Also, a new project. I was looking at the theme banners Sephi created and decided to try my hand at a logo/render. This style (perhaps a different image depending on the month?) would replace the generic welcome text used currently. Unfortunately I was an idiot and clicked "no" instead of "cancel" and lost the PSD for this. But not too big of a deal. Here's the base image: I'm curious to know if anyone likes it, or thinks it could be improved somehow. I provided the base image to give anyone interested a chance to work with it, if they wished.
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2008-04-22, 03:29 | Link #60 |
Retired
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Location: Princeton University
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Good idea to start using the banner for SOTM, now we can even have a competition for THAT too
Just kidding The banner looks nice Solace, the "SOTM" font is great but change the other one imho
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