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Old 2014-06-05, 22:59   Link #8421
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Care to explain about this ? I dropped Naruto since the time-skip.
Madara is the OP big bad villain in Naruto. He was made to be too damn OP till the author was having difficulties to figure out to defeat him, and it took way too long to do so. I have no idea how long does it take to finish him off.

Why I said so because I hope any of the antagonists in here aren't being as OP as Madara. Especially spirit Origami, who had turned Inverse and is going to raise hell and unleash the fury and bloodshed the world has never seen...

Consider her as the Angel of Death
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Old 2014-06-05, 23:10   Link #8422
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What if First Spirit was all Sephira crystals combined and now he/she gone because the crystals all separated.

Or First Spirit is now just an empty container(Reine....Shidou less likely)
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Old 2014-06-05, 23:12   Link #8423
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Vol. 12 will be released in March 2015!? Why wait so long? By the way, I didnīt know volume 11 had a release date already.
Vol 11 doesn't have release date yet but the author said in a recent interview that it will be out this summer. Vol 11 is not on June and July's schedule so that leaves August, if this is true there should be confirmation in a couple of weeks.

It is assumed that vol 12 won't be out until next year since Vol 11 is out in August (or September) and Encore 3 is out this December. It is probably because the author said he still has no idea how to continue the story after vol 10.
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Old 2014-06-05, 23:32   Link #8424
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Maybe we will see an unexpected power boost from Shido if he's going to fight Ellen (like every MC of a shounen genre)
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Old 2014-06-05, 23:43   Link #8425
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Vol 11 doesn't have release date yet but the author said in a recent interview that it will be out this summer. Vol 11 is not on June and July's schedule so that leaves August, if this is true there should be confirmation in a couple of weeks.

It is assumed that vol 12 won't be out until next year since Vol 11 is out in August (or September) and Encore 3 is out this December. It is probably because the author said he still has no idea how to continue the story after vol 10.
Thanks for the clarification, maybe afte a little while the author might use ideas we already predicted, who knows, maybe we get our wish granted and Ellen is turned into a Spirit. But if that guy decides to kill Kurumi for real I will to Japan and beat him good.

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Maybe we will see an unexpected power boost from Shido if he's going to fight Ellen (like every MC of a shounen genre)
If he manages to defeat Ellen it could be use as a good excuse for her to wish to become a Spirit to recover her "strongest" title and eventually fall for Shidou.
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Old 2014-06-05, 23:51   Link #8426
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What if First Spirit was all Sephira crystals combined and now he/she gone because the crystals all separated.

Or First Spirit is now just an empty container(Reine....Shidou less likely)
I find this the most likely case. Reine was probably the original spirit (she doesn't have the kanji for zero but her name has the kanji parts for zero). The spacequake from 30 years ago made her lose all her powers and the sephira crystals were created and dispersed leaving her no different from a human. Some were collected by Phantom who went about making others into spirits. Others likely eventually found their way to individuals like Tohka and Yoshino and turned them into spirits.

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Thanks for the clarification, maybe afte a little while the author might use ideas we already predicted, who knows, maybe we get our wish granted and Ellen is turned into a Spirit. But if that guy decides to kill Kurumi for real I will to Japan and beat him good.



If he manages to defeat Ellen it could be use as a good excuse for her to wish to become a Spirit to recover her "strongest" title and eventually fall for Shidou.
I have the feeling that Shidou and mana's mother is one of the spirits which could explain Shidou's power. I expect her to pass away when they find her and her powers to pass onto Mana. The last one is likely Phantom. Or maybe Phantom is Shidou's mother (though probably a projection using her angel's power) and she's spreading the Sephira Crystals to counter DEM who is holding her physical body captive to make use of her angel's powers for their suits. The realizers used by the AST and DEM are copies of her angel's ability that they managed to create after capturing her.
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Old 2014-06-06, 00:29   Link #8427
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and shidou is not shidou but shiori

just kidding but yes your speculation/theory kinda make sense
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Old 2014-06-06, 00:30   Link #8428
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Plot twist:
Phantom: Shidou, I am your mother...
Shidou: No... No! That's not true... That's not possible!!! D:
Phantom: Search your feelings, you know it is true.
Shidou: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Dx

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Old 2014-06-06, 01:19   Link #8429
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Damn, will he/she continue the series? I don't think it was restricted by contract limit. He/she may have a choice to continue to complete the series. It would be a waste to abandon an incomplete yet promising series.
One of them makes emphasis on the BD upgrades and director's Cut.
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Old 2014-06-06, 02:26   Link #8430
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Plot twist:
Phantom: Shidou, I am your mother...
Shidou: No... No! That's not true... That's not possible!!! D:
Phantom: Search your feelings, you know it is true.
Shidou: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Dx

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Come with me. It's the only way."
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Old 2014-06-06, 03:06   Link #8431
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Old 2014-06-06, 04:12   Link #8432
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"Shidou. You can destroy Westcott. He has foreseen this. It is
your destiny.
Come with me. It's the only way."
Then phantom will tell I am shiori your mother and creator
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Old 2014-06-06, 04:13   Link #8433
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But Kurumi want to kill the Phantom :/

So...who is the good guy here ?
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Old 2014-06-06, 04:43   Link #8434
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But Kurumi want to kill the Phantom :/

So...who is the good guy here ?
No she wants to kill the first Spirit not Phantom, and there has been nothing which would suggest Phantom and the first Spirit are the same being
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Old 2014-06-06, 06:37   Link #8435
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Old 2014-06-06, 06:47   Link #8436
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No she wants to kill the first Spirit not Phantom, and there has been nothing which would suggest Phantom and the first Spirit are the same being
Why I get the feeling that this whole thing(if she ever able to do what she planing) will end like Origami with her parents?

I mean, if you guys are right and the spirits that we have now(the crystal that give them power and turn them into spirits) really come from the first spirit.....this mean that if Kurumi kill her, will only give birth a the crystal and the spirits.

No to mention the whole paradox for her to kill the source of her own power.

Shinji103@Interesting.

It's a pity that like the first one this will be only jap.
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Old 2014-06-06, 07:50   Link #8437
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Preview pictures for episode 9 have put online
http://date-a-live-anime.com/story/season2_09.html

Also dear god that second picture with Wescott smiling in my opinion is f**king creepy as hell
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Old 2014-06-06, 09:51   Link #8438
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Why I get the feeling that this whole thing(if she ever able to do what she planing) will end like Origami with her parents?

I mean, if you guys are right and the spirits that we have now(the crystal that give them power and turn them into spirits) really come from the first spirit.....this mean that if Kurumi kill her, will only give birth a the crystal and the spirits.

No to mention the whole paradox for her to kill the source of her own power.
That's the entire point she knows she's going to die by doing this but if she does it she can help other spirits that's the reason phantom said aren't you kind. Because the whole point is she's sacrificing herself to make the world better. Hence the lelouch comparasions. Not to mention the fact they're both spilling blood to prevent worse bloodshed.
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Old 2014-06-06, 10:00   Link #8439
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ImperialFlameGod8190@I understand this.
What I'm fear is: She kill the first spirit and we find out that she is the one that cause the whole mess in the first place.

And that's why I use Origami as example, she is the cause of her own suffering (if you think about it).

For some reason I can see Kurumi being in a similar situation at her.
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Old 2014-06-06, 10:35   Link #8440
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ImperialFlameGod8190@I understand this.
What I'm fear is: She kill the first spirit and we find out that she is the one that cause the whole mess in the first place.

And that's why I use Origami as example, she is the cause of her own suffering (if you think about it).

For some reason I can see Kurumi being in a similar situation at her.
And... Kurumi goes Inverse.
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