(L) World Trigger [Manga]

[KBTKaiser]

There's an older thread buried somewhere, actually...maybe someone can request a merge?

EDIT: Found it.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=117837

[aohige]

So like, the color cover chapter 51 announced the official release of WT figurines right?

Well...

The figure company just went belly-up, and bankrupted.

OOPS.

[bastek66]

Wow, I was wrong. It gets anime and still there is almost no discussion. Nor here nor for example on /a/.

[Aesthetic Shampoo]

I am surprised this hasn't been cancelled yet, to be honest.

[Triok123]

soo...the thread is dead.....??
well....here the last cover

[omega253]

Originally Posted by Triok123

soo...the thread is dead.....??
well....here the last cover
*image*

Wait, what!? World Trigger's ending!?

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by omega253

Wait, what!? World Trigger's ending!?

I think what Triok123 meant to say was that the cover they posted was for the latest World Trigger cover, since as far as the story is heading currently, we are no where close to the ending (especially with the anime airing soon).

As for the thread being so inactive ... well, the main two reasons is that not many people were interested in the series to begin with given the lackluster start it had (hopefully we will see interest pick up again when the anime airs) and that the only way to read it now is legally through Viz ... provided if you are part of the countries they offer their digital magazine to.

In any case, I suppose I might do my part to revive the thread a bit, by talking about the current arc.

Invasion Arc Impressions

Spoiler for Impressions:

So, the Invasion arc had begun since late December last year and it will seemingly (hopefully?) conclude sometime in November/December of this year (going by few chapters) the pace of the last, making it the longest arc World Trigger had thus far, and covering more than a quarter of the manga at that point.

I have to admit that I am impressed in how the mangaka decided to pen a year long arc for a series that is a little over 2 years old, especially in a magazine like Jump where there is little guaranty the series could make it to its 3rd year. Regardless, I think that after reading this far into this arc, I think that Daisuke Ashihara has the writing skill to back up this gambling move.

The one thing that is clear in this arc is that, without a doubt, this is a full scale foreign invasion and that the Border agents are fighting the battle of their lives trying to stop the Aftokrator forces from kidnapping anymore people. Throughout this war (and I think we can call it that at this point, given the scale of the battle and technology shown and the amount of causalities it resulted in) it is very clear why Aftokrator are considered to be the largest and strongest military nation in the Neighbors sphere. 4 black trigger users, each with an extremely powerful ability that thus far the Border agents had only managed to defeat a single one through strategic teamwork and powerful Border agents, and even the two other white trigger users are nothing to laugh at (Ranibanein is the very definition of a heavy tank, and Hyuse ability is absurdly powerful, on bar with Mira's IMO). It is very clear that with one those 6, the entirety of Border where fighting a battle on the defensive not due to them being the invading force alone, but because each one is clearly strong.

But as strong the Aftokrator Six are (and this is what I love about this arc so much and makes me forgiving for why it is taking so long) it is crystal clear that throughout this war, Border are not shown to be weak. It might have taken 10 Border agents collaborating in order to take down Ranibanein, but that was due to how ridiculously strong he was. Enedora took out Kazama, but that was due to how powerful and difficult his Borboros was to fight, the same goes for Reji and Viza's Organon. Hyrein might've been able to defeat both Izumi and Karasuma, but neither of these two actually came out looking worse out those battles (well, it will depend on what Karasuma did will end up playing positively or negatively on the outcome of both Osamu and Chika's fate. Jin's comment was vague I thought). In fact, every border agent was shown that despite their defeats to have acted in a rational and competent manner against opponents who had outmatched by their technological superiority. Yes, the Neighbors are powerful, but they are not indestructible (as Mira demonstrated ).

I also love how in addition to all that, what really gives the feeling that this is a full scale battle is that we are shown events and fights which occur concurrently with one another. Osamu is trying to get Chika safe away from the Neighbors, Hyrein is trying to locate him along with Mira while fighting Karasuma and Izumi, Jin is fighting Hyuse and trying to rattle him, Yuma is handling Viza while Replica attempts to get to Osamu to help him, Miwa is aiding in the rescue of the cubified Border agents, while Konami is trying to save the non-combatants, all the while Enedora manages to infiltrate Border HQ and kill several people there while Mira and Hyrein try and figure out what to do with him while they are still searching for Chika. Yes, it is this sort of complexity that use causes people to get confused as to where anyone is (to the point where we had a map detailing where everyone was lol) but at the same time I appreciate that there was clear thought placed into making this conflict feel like the mangaka wanted it to affect all fronts without exception.

Aside from all that, I have enjoyed how much characters like Chika, Kitora, Knoami, Karasuma and Kohei (look at all those K's) get to have their own awesome moment in this arc ... even if half of them later on get the most crushing twist sprung on them (Karasuma and Kitora in particular). Osamu gets his moments too, but its Osamu so he is bound to get those in any case.

Anyways, I can't wait to see how Miwa vs. Hyrein will end up looking like. Hyrein had ended up taking down two powerful Border agents, and with Mira by his side I don't see how anyone is supposed to defeat him in a straight forward fight, but Jin supposedly has enough fate in Miwa to even offer a recommendation for Fujin, provided he saves Osamu so who knows?

I'm surprised to find myself looking forward to reading more about how all of this will unfold, but I guess it goes to show you that you can't judge a manga by the first few chapters all the time. World Trigger had been a slow burner but I'm glad it had finally managed to get going post the Miwa/Arashiyama Squad battle, and had kept on getting better. Hopefully it continues on with that trend.

[amasposu]

I skim through every one of the recent chapters, but the pacing of the story is just too slow to get me interested.

[Arabesque]

Originally Posted by poisui

I skim through every one of the recent chapters, but the pacing of the story is just too slow to get me interested.

Going to have to disagree about the pacing. It might have been horrid when the manga first began, but it has not only improved since in the last year, but at this point recent chapters had been going at a really nice speed and transitions from different events and battles.

I will say since we are nearing the climax of the current arc soon, hopfully will go back to no battles for a while.

[bastek66]

This series was never popular. Not here, not on mal, not on /a/, dunno about tumbr coz I don't visit that cancer. Manga is still balancing between decent rank and cancelation-risk.
And now anime is early morning show with shitty animation by Toei.
Shit happens.

[Esclair]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

I'm surprised to find myself looking forward to reading more about how all of this will unfold, but I guess it goes to show you that you can't judge a manga by the first few chapters all the time. World Trigger had been a slow burner but I'm glad it had finally managed to get going post the Miwa/Arashiyama Squad battle, and had kept on getting better. Hopefully it continues on with that trend.

This is pretty much how One Piece/Bleach/Naruto/Hunter x Hunter started out. The first set of chapter were all slow and low-key. However, they were also key to establishing the characters and the scope of the world, which is essential in a long running battle shonen.

Look at the other battle shonens they've been testing out recently. Every single one pretty much dived right in, introducing way too many concepts way too fast. In the end they fizzle out after a few months because the readers lose interest and don't get invested into the world and the characters. World Trigger is the only battle shonen that didn't make this mistake and through a combination of luck and pull somehow didn't get canceled after 2 months.

Once Naruto ends World Trigger world trigger might have a chance to jump in and fill the vacuum.

Originally Posted by bastek66

This series was never popular. Not here, not on mal, not on /a/, dunno about tumbr coz I don't visit that cancer. Manga is still balancing between decent rank and cancelation-risk.
And now anime is early morning show with shitty animation by Toei.
Shit happens.

No scanlations make it pretty hard for most of the western audience to follow.

[Triok123]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

I think what Triok123 meant to say was that the cover they posted was for the latest World Trigger cover, since as far as the story is heading currently, we are no where close to the ending (especially with the anime airing soon).

As for the thread being so inactive ... well, the main two reasons is that not many people were interested in the series to begin with given the lackluster start it had (hopefully we will see interest pick up again when the anime airs) and that the only way to read it now is legally through Viz ... provided if you are part of the countries they offer their digital magazine to.

In any case, I suppose I might do my part to revive the thread a bit, by talking about the current arc.

Invasion Arc Impressions

Spoiler for Impressions:

So, the Invasion arc had begun since late December last year and it will seemingly (hopefully?) conclude sometime in November/December of this year (going by few chapters) the pace of the last, making it the longest arc World Trigger had thus far, and covering more than a quarter of the manga at that point.

I have to admit that I am impressed in how the mangaka decided to pen a year long arc for a series that is a little over 2 years old, especially in a magazine like Jump where there is little guaranty the series could make it to its 3rd year. Regardless, I think that after reading this far into this arc, I think that Daisuke Ashihara has the writing skill to back up this gambling move.

The one thing that is clear in this arc is that, without a doubt, this is a full scale foreign invasion and that the Border agents are fighting the battle of their lives trying to stop the Aftokrator forces from kidnapping anymore people. Throughout this war (and I think we can call it that at this point, given the scale of the battle and technology shown and the amount of causalities it resulted in) it is very clear why Aftokrator are considered to be the largest and strongest military nation in the Neighbors sphere. 4 black trigger users, each with an extremely powerful ability that thus far the Border agents had only managed to defeat a single one through strategic teamwork and powerful Border agents, and even the two other white trigger users are nothing to laugh at (Ranibanein is the very definition of a heavy tank, and Hyuse ability is absurdly powerful, on bar with Mira's IMO). It is very clear that with one those 6, the entirety of Border where fighting a battle on the defensive not due to them being the invading force alone, but because each one is clearly strong.

But as strong the Aftokrator Six are (and this is what I love about this arc so much and makes me forgiving for why it is taking so long) it is crystal clear that throughout this war, Border are not shown to be weak. It might have taken 10 Border agents collaborating in order to take down Ranibanein, but that was due to how ridiculously strong he was. Enedora took out Kazama, but that was due to how powerful and difficult his Borboros was to fight, the same goes for Reji and Viza's Organon. Hyrein might've been able to defeat both Izumi and Karasuma, but neither of these two actually came out looking worse out those battles (well, it will depend on what Karasuma did will end up playing positively or negatively on the outcome of both Osamu and Chika's fate. Jin's comment was vague I thought). In fact, every border agent was shown that despite their defeats to have acted in a rational and competent manner against opponents who had outmatched by their technological superiority. Yes, the Neighbors are powerful, but they are not indestructible (as Mira demonstrated ).

I also love how in addition to all that, what really gives the feeling that this is a full scale battle is that we are shown events and fights which occur concurrently with one another. Osamu is trying to get Chika safe away from the Neighbors, Hyrein is trying to locate him along with Mira while fighting Karasuma and Izumi, Jin is fighting Hyuse and trying to rattle him, Yuma is handling Viza while Replica attempts to get to Osamu to help him, Miwa is aiding in the rescue of the cubified Border agents, while Konami is trying to save the non-combatants, all the while Enedora manages to infiltrate Border HQ and kill several people there while Mira and Hyrein try and figure out what to do with him while they are still searching for Chika. Yes, it is this sort of complexity that use causes people to get confused as to where anyone is (to the point where we had a map detailing where everyone was lol) but at the same time I appreciate that there was clear thought placed into making this conflict feel like the mangaka wanted it to affect all fronts without exception.

Aside from all that, I have enjoyed how much characters like Chika, Kitora, Knoami, Karasuma and Kohei (look at all those K's) get to have their own awesome moment in this arc ... even if half of them later on get the most crushing twist sprung on them (Karasuma and Kitora in particular). Osamu gets his moments too, but its Osamu so he is bound to get those in any case.

Anyways, I can't wait to see how Miwa vs. Hyrein will end up looking like. Hyrein had ended up taking down two powerful Border agents, and with Mira by his side I don't see how anyone is supposed to defeat him in a straight forward fight, but Jin supposedly has enough fate in Miwa to even offer a recommendation for Fujin, provided he saves Osamu so who knows?

I'm surprised to find myself looking forward to reading more about how all of this will unfold, but I guess it goes to show you that you can't judge a manga by the first few chapters all the time. World Trigger had been a slow burner but I'm glad it had finally managed to get going post the Miwa/Arashiyama Squad battle, and had kept on getting better. Hopefully it continues on with that trend.

Spoiler:

apparently Miwa is doing rather well, so i'm impresed since i expected him to kicked the bucket fast....and Osamu seem to be as fuck as done(he got a Mira in front of him... my dream of a MC being killed may come true) in other side Yuma don't seem to do be doing good neither (according to Replica VIza is probably the Afrokator's strongest warrior), and Black trigger don't have bailout

[Arabesque]

Well, things are finally coming to a head

Spoiler for 76:

Miwa vs Hyrein started out in favor of Miwa, thanks to him already being knowledgeable enough (and willing) to kill any neighbor he might come across, and even Hyrein is finding him hard to deal with in a one to one fight. I don't think the fight will continue to play out with Miwa having the upper hand, since whatever Osamu did before leaving leads me to think it will ultimately save Miwa (a delayed trigger reaction?)

Mira and Osamu is something that I think will be hard to figure out how it will unfold though. The logical thing to happen now is that Osamu will be teleported to the Aftokrator ship and Chika along with him, but after that ... what, does he manage to escape?

Yuma vs Visa seems to be like an interesting battle since it is one of the few one we had in a long while where Yuma had really been pushed to a corner and has no choice but going all out. Looking forward to how it ends.

Originally Posted by Esclair

Look at the other battle shonens they've been testing out recently. Every single one pretty much dived right in, introducing way too many concepts way too fast. In the end they fizzle out after a few months because the readers lose interest and don't get invested into the world and the characters. World Trigger is the only battle shonen that didn't make this mistake and through a combination of luck and pull somehow didn't get canceled after 2 months.

I agree largely with what you wrote, but I think that the bold is where you really hit the mark on why World Trigger managed to become this engaging. I don't necessarily think that it excuses the awkward and slow pacing of the first chapters, but it certainly did help set up the necessary ground work for the series to later on build upon and make it stand comfortably when it kicked into gear during the first major arc.

When we factor in that the series was originally intended to be a sports series rather than a Sci-Fi one, it makes a lot of sense that the early chapters where intended to be the ones where the team is brought together and get to know each other (while the team dynamics are being set), when they joined border being the preliminary round to the main event (the current invasion).

Originally Posted by Esclair

Once Naruto ends World Trigger world trigger might have a chance to jump in and fill the vacuum.

I wouldn't be so sure early on. The series is doing well now but still has a long way to go to reach that level of popularity and we never know what the future might hold.

Originally Posted by Esclair

No scanlations make it pretty hard for most of the western audience to follow.

That and Viz for some reason continues to not attempt to capitalize fully on the series (releasing the series weekly in only 6 countries, volumes 1 and 2 only coming out 2 years after the Japanese release) leading to cutting the size of the potential readership for the series.

Originally Posted by Triok123

apparently Miwa is doing rather well, so i'm impresed since i expected him to kicked the bucket fast

Miwa was always strong, even when he and Yuma fought all the way back he managed to really prove troubling without a Black Trigger vs Yuma who had one, and he was never taken out during the battle between his and Arashiyama's squad, so it isn't really that surprising to see that he is able to be this good against Hyrein. Jin didn't offer him the Fujin for no reason afterall.

Plus he gets a positive modifier against any opponent who is a Neighbor due to his intense hatred

Originally Posted by Triok123

and Osamu seem to be as fuck as done(he got a Mira in front of him... my dream of a MC being killed may come true)

Yup, that sure looks like the end of the line for Osamu ...

But seriously, while it looks like Mira is about to turn Osamu into Shish Kebab, with 3 minutes to go anything can happen at this point. I'm almost lead to believe that they will manage to overcome the worst possible outcome from Jin vision (Chika being captured by Aftokrator, Osamu being killed by Mira) but maybe what Karasuma did might have affected things so who knows ...

Originally Posted by Triok123

in other side Yuma don't seem to do be doing good neither (according to Replica VIza is probably the Afrokator's strongest warrior), and Black trigger don't have bailout

Viza vs Yuma is turning out to be amusing. I did like how Replica told Yuma that Osamu is fine despite him being filled with hole thanks to Mira : and in general Viza is having a trickster side to him is really fun.

I do think he will manage to defeat him, but I do want to know what is the deal with him not having any Trion Horns ...

[Triok123]

it seem that only relatively young people have horn, olds mans like Viza don't seem to have one, and according to spoiler

Spoiler:

Osamu didn't turn into Kebab...Replica did

and after first episode all i have to say is ..Toei you're a asshole....wtf with this animation....

[Esclair]

Originally Posted by Arabesque

I wouldn't be so sure early on. The series is doing well now but still has a long way to go to reach that level of popularity and we never know what the future might hold.

Naruto is ending in 5 chapters. The only manga they have to fill that void is Toriko right now, and that's supposedly 50% done. Plus they have been promoting it for a while now.

I think trying to promote World Trigger now would be a smart move if they're looking to fill that gap. There's no way a new battle shonen can reach Naruto's popularity if they started now, unless it's something new by Murata, but he's busying working on One Punch Man.

[James Rye]

Originally Posted by Esclair

Naruto is ending in 5 chapters. The only manga they have to fill that void is Toriko right now, and that's supposedly 50% done. Plus they have been promoting it for a while now.

I think trying to promote World Trigger now would be a smart move if they're looking to fill that gap. There's no way a new battle shonen can reach Naruto's popularity if they started now, unless it's something new by Murata, but he's busying working on One Punch Man.

Maybe you're right. WT gets a CP in the #48 Jump magazine release. So Jump does seem to try to promote it to get it more interest. But so far it doesn't look like the anime had much effect on its sales. It would be good if WT could sell over 150k or 200k before dropping out of the Oricon Top 50 sales. But so far it seems far from it.

It is kind of strange though. WT had so many postcards and votes for its first popularity poll, yet it always rank in the middle or near the bottom and rarely in or near the top5 or the bottom 5. But Assclass which sells far more than WT had like not even a 1/10 of voters that WT had for its popularity poll. Guess that means WT has at least a dedicated fanbase in japan though it doesn't seem to grow much, no thanks to the anime.

A shame, the Invasion arc got pretty good yet it is an up and down in the rankings with it. Some chapters are very high, most middle and some in the bottom like in the recent ranking. Then again the WT editor had said that WT has gotten first place a couple times in the TOC yet we never saw that, so it's not like its written in stone what the ranking results are.

Spoiler for Chapter 78 spoiler:

I really liked this chapter.
Mostly because I was glad that Replica wasn't dead. If Yuuma had lost his last "family" like that, that would have been a shock. Replica didn't repaired himself though, so maybe it is serious? Dunno, we'll see.

The fight of Yuuma vs Viza got into its last phase and it was really great to watch. Viza had Yuuma pinned with his dancing swords and Yuuma suddenly went for a straighton attack.
Viza ofc expected that and moved his swords to cut Yuuma's head in half, but Yuuma stopped midair just an inch before the sword cutting empty air. Thanks to his anchor trigger.

I liked how such a simple combo of jump trigger and anchor trigger can be good for a surprise and change the flow of a battle quickly.

Yuuma jumped again to reach the Aftkratol soldier, Viza tried to prevent that from happening, but he only cut off Yuuma's legs. Yuuma was just about to obliterate Viza as his whole trion body gets cut in half.
Really liked the panel effect there when it showed us Yuuma's view which was a bit separated as his two body halfes drifted apart.

Viza was sure he had won, but Yuuma being a BT wasn't bailed out and he used the smoke of his body explosion to charge an attack on Viza while being in his vulnerable "normal" body. Viza wanted to cut, and with that most likely end up killing Yuuma, again but his sword was hold down by a heavy bullet which trigger had Yuuma planted on his own body as a body trap so to say.

Viza unable to defend himself, because that would have meant to give his weapon up, got disintegrated into pieces by a single blow of Yuuma!

What I really liked about this chapter, was how it showed that out there are several people who could challenge Yuuma even in his Black Trigger form. And that Yuuma has to sacrifice a lot, his arm, legs and even the whole body in the end, to achieve a draw, or a sort-of victory.

But with this Yuuma is out of the count as I doubt he can recharge his Black Trigger body any time soon. So he cannot help Osamu out who still got to face Mira. Plus there is not much time left till the crossroad future happens where Osamu might get killed. Can't wait to see that one happening. Either it happens in the next chapter or in chapter 80. Hope it's the next chapter.^^

[ChuckE]

I like in WT that there are no OP characters. At least for now.

[James Rye]

Originally Posted by ChuckE

I like in WT that there are no OP characters. At least for now.

True that. Even Hyrein with his Alektor weapon (is that a spoiler?) who seemed OP as hell, can still have a hard time against a skilled and well-prepared opponent.

The only one who I would see as OP was Jin when he had still his black trigger. His side effect to foresee the future plus that amazing weapon made such a deadly combo that even the best A-agents had no chance against him. That was crazy. Thus I'm glad that Ashihara "weakend" Jin and decided to make him a, very strong, A agent again while Jin's old weapon becomes an item of power many other agents will fight for.

Though it will be very interesting to see if Miwa gets Jin's Black Trigger and how he will far as S-class. That would also mean that Miwa cannot lead the Miwa squad anymore.

Come to think of it, will Jin now form his own team or will he join Reiji's team? Or will he wait till Osamu team gets A-level and join them? So far he seems to be a one-man team even as an A-class agent.

[James Rye]

Spoiler for Chapter 79 spoiler:

Boy, ch. 79 goes all out on the action, if that chapter doesn't make it into or near the top five then either the editor in chief or the jump fans must be superspoiled to disregard this as "uninteresting". XD

Yuuma rushes right towards HQ to help Yuuma out though he is not in his black trigger form. If he gets hurt in this form he might die for real. Same for Osamu who goes so far to protect Chika and Replica by calling his trion body off to escape of being trapped. Which is btw the first time anybody shouted Trigger off. And Osamu was also the first one who had called trigger on in the manga. Nice details Ashihara has going on there.

Miwa was the real star of this chapter though. By using Mira's warp portals against her and shooting vipers at bothy Hyrein and her, damaging them greatly. A bit surprised by that though, I thought pistols and guns cannot shoot vipers, only asteroids or meteroits? Or did I misread that? Maybe I need to reread that guns/pistol part again. Maybe they meant that you can usually have only two types of bullets and most prefer asteroid and meteroit as those are the easiest to be used and probably don't eat up as much Trion as Viper does.

Anyway, Miwa deals both Mira and Hyrein lots of wounds and then gets teleported away by Mira and then he also turns into his human form and uses Fujin, Jin's black trigger, to rush back to the battlefield. Looks like we already got our future black trigger holder for that weapon.

7 seconds are left till the crossroad future and a lot is happening:
Osamu is a couple steps away from safety.
Hyrein rushes to him to get the golden goose aka Chika.
Mira seems to have lost her trigger as she had not enough Trion to keep it running (wouldn't call her out for the fight though).
Yuuma goes all out on a huge trigger circleshot with several bolts.
Miwa goes all black trigger wind blades.
And all that gonna have an impact in those 7 seconds.
So the next chapter will certainly be the one where we finally get to see the climax of the crossroad future.

Does anybody happen to know when the fantranslation will pick up WT again? I saw translations for it for ch. 56 and 57 but no notice when those gets typed into the actual chapters. Or is it that due Viz there will be no more WT translations? But other mangas also got Viz translations and I see fan translations from those all around the net.

[James Rye]

Okay, I found myself some translations on tumblr, but I'm not sure I can post the link here or if that's forbidden. Hope somebody could give me a short yes or no explanantion on that matter. Translations are about 57-67 and the quality is not so great but good enough to understand what is going on. If you would like to read ten WT chapters packed with action in a row let me know per pm. Guess link per pm is alllowed, right?

And sorry for the triple post.^^