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Kanon · 2021-06-06, 17:03

Here comes the punch drunk syndrome. Joe might really be on his way to meet the same fate as Joe Yabuki this time. I think that would destroy the narrative though. I know Liu told Joe he was the type of man who lives and dies on the ring, but the arc with Chief seemed to have taught him what was truly important. If the current Joe were to be told boxing further could kill him, I think he'd give up. He doesn't live entirely for boxing like Yabuki did, nor does he share the same demons.

grecefar · 2021-06-06, 17:59

Come on don’t give more drama with this, nanbu and chief already paid the price so don’t add joe with this.

Anyway he was pretty cold against sacchio but it was the only way to get him, and sacchio didn’t need the “I’m going to die soon” card, he already forgave him.

Master_Yoma · 2021-06-06, 20:46

Well Sachio finding out the hard way how far he still have to go when he faced Joe it feels like he really dosnt have any talent for boxing

Guardian Enzo · 2021-06-07, 05:57

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Originally Posted by Master_Yoma

Well Sachio finding out the hard way how far he still have to go when he faced Joe it feels like he really dosnt have any talent for boxing

To be fair, Joe was effectively world champ, and Sacchio is about 16 and weighs like 130 pounds. There's a reason featherweights don't fight heavyweights. He's no prodigy but it might be a little harsh to say he has no talent for it.

Kanon · 2021-06-07, 07:08

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

To be fair, Joe was effectively world champ, and Sacchio is about 16 and weighs like 130 pounds. There's a reason featherweights don't fight heavyweights. He's no prodigy but it might be a little harsh to say he has no talent for it.

That's what Aragaki said. I think he knows what he's talking about.

Guardian Enzo · 2021-06-07, 08:15

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Originally Posted by Kanon

That's what Aragaki said. I think he knows what he's talking about.

Those weren't his exact words though, were they? I don't remember him saying that.

magnumcyclonex · 2021-06-07, 09:57

Hopefully Joe is ok. I'm glad to see Sachio came back to terms and even the corrupt businessman drank to pay tribute to Nanbu.

Kanon · 2021-06-07, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Those weren't his exact words though, were they? I don't remember him saying that.

I remember him saying he agreed to train Sachio because he insisted but he quickly realized he had no talent for boxing.

Wandering Soul · 2021-06-07, 19:10

Despite what the ending seems to imply, I'm sure Joe will make it to the end. I'm not sure what would gained by killing him off in the finale.

Guardian Enzo · 2021-06-07, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

Despite what the ending seems to imply, I'm sure Joe will make it to the end. I'm not sure what would gained by killing him off in the finale.

Canon consistency?

Kanon · 2021-06-13, 17:10

The scene where Joe talked to everyone when they reopened the gym was fantastic. I'm not exactly sure why he even accepted the fight (I know Mac reminds him of Chief, but that doesn't seem like a good enough reason) but at least he's going into that fight with the proper mindset unlike Joe Yabuki.

On the other hand, the whole thing with the evil CEO is pretty terrible.

Master_Yoma · 2021-06-13, 20:44

So Joe telling everyone what he did on the road for years must of been hard to sort all of it out in his head

With the way he running that business it looks like it will be sued into oblivion

Wandering Soul · 2021-06-13, 21:30

Joe opening up to everyone at the gym and wanting to get their opinion on his match really did make me happy to see how far he's come. I'm even okay with him using a gear for a the match considering the reason and symbolism for it

Kanon · 2021-06-14, 07:38

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Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

Joe opening up to everyone at the gym and wanting to get their opinion on his match really did make me happy to see how far he's come. I'm even okay with him using a gear for a the match considering the reason and symbolism for it

It's a gear designed for defense to boot, which matches his desire to come back alive.

Alchemist007 · 2021-06-17, 01:53

I think the power move would be not having the match, but alas.

Kanon · 2021-06-20, 16:59

Will someone punch Sakuma already? I hope to see him hitting rock bottom in the final episode.

The episode was almost entirely focused on Mac, and it was a very good one. He's a very sympathetic character.

Dop · 2021-06-20, 18:47

Yeah, I did really like the focus on Mac's backstory and how meeting up with his former police partner helped him get himself together.
While the show is very much couched in tragedy, I really want Joe and Mac to both come out of their fight OK and get on with their lives with their friends and families.

I also very very much want that techbro dude to get what's coming to him.

Master_Yoma · 2021-06-20, 20:42

Well it seems that Mac feels better after a few days of binge drinking should of punch Sakuma it would of been faster

Kanon · 2021-06-27, 17:03

Spoiler for Ending:

grecefar · 2021-06-27, 17:15

This is the kind of match that even if joe lost, it feels like he was the winner, he put mac over, he went out like a champ smiling and happy with what he did.

Now give me a movie for his match against liu.

2021-06-06, 17:03	Link #81
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Here comes the punch drunk syndrome. Joe might really be on his way to meet the same fate as Joe Yabuki this time. I think that would destroy the narrative though. I know Liu told Joe he was the type of man who lives and dies on the ring, but the arc with Chief seemed to have taught him what was truly important. If the current Joe were to be told boxing further could kill him, I think he'd give up. He doesn't live entirely for boxing like Yabuki did, nor does he share the same demons. __________________

2021-06-06, 20:46	Link #83
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Well Sachio finding out the hard way how far he still have to go when he faced Joe it feels like he really dosnt have any talent for boxing __________________

2021-06-07, 19:10	Link #89
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	Despite what the ending seems to imply, I'm sure Joe will make it to the end. I'm not sure what would gained by killing him off in the finale. __________________

2021-06-13, 17:10	Link #91
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	The scene where Joe talked to everyone when they reopened the gym was fantastic. I'm not exactly sure why he even accepted the fight (I know Mac reminds him of Chief, but that doesn't seem like a good enough reason) but at least he's going into that fight with the proper mindset unlike Joe Yabuki. On the other hand, the whole thing with the evil CEO is pretty terrible. __________________

2021-06-13, 20:44	Link #92
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	So Joe telling everyone what he did on the road for years must of been hard to sort all of it out in his head With the way he running that business it looks like it will be sued into oblivion __________________

2021-06-06, 17:59	Link #82
grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	Come on don’t give more drama with this, nanbu and chief already paid the price so don’t add joe with this. Anyway he was pretty cold against sacchio but it was the only way to get him, and sacchio didn’t need the “I’m going to die soon” card, he already forgave him.

2021-06-07, 09:57	Link #87
magnumcyclonex Cyclone Magnum Join Date: Apr 2004	Hopefully Joe is ok. I'm glad to see Sachio came back to terms and even the corrupt businessman drank to pay tribute to Nanbu.

2021-06-13, 21:30	Link #93
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	Joe opening up to everyone at the gym and wanting to get their opinion on his match really did make me happy to see how far he's come. I'm even okay with him using a gear for a the match considering the reason and symbolism for it __________________

2021-06-17, 01:53	Link #95
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	I think the power move would be not having the match, but alas. __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2021-06-20, 16:59	Link #96
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Will someone punch Sakuma already? I hope to see him hitting rock bottom in the final episode. The episode was almost entirely focused on Mac, and it was a very good one. He's a very sympathetic character. __________________

2021-06-20, 18:47	Link #97
Dop Mmmm.... Join Date: Sep 2006	Yeah, I did really like the focus on Mac's backstory and how meeting up with his former police partner helped him get himself together. While the show is very much couched in tragedy, I really want Joe and Mac to both come out of their fight OK and get on with their lives with their friends and families. I also very very much want that techbro dude to get what's coming to him.

2021-06-20, 20:42	Link #98
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Well it seems that Mac feels better after a few days of binge drinking should of punch Sakuma it would of been faster __________________

2021-06-27, 17:03	Link #99
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Spoiler for Ending: Joe survived another season. Mac was just fine too, much better off than Yuri who ended up in a wheelchair. In a way, this ending is the opposite of Ashita no Joe's ending. Joe Yabuki wanted to fight until the very end and was happy to pay the ultimate price for it, whereas this Joe had Sachio make the call on whether to throw the towel and when he did, he was still satisfied. __________________

2021-06-27, 17:15	Link #100
grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	This is the kind of match that even if joe lost, it feels like he was the winner, he put mac over, he went out like a champ smiling and happy with what he did. Now give me a movie for his match against liu.