2008-06-05, 23:37 | Link #1241 | |
Le fou, c'est moi
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It's getting more and more confusing from my perspective with the constant switch of themes between "Obama isn't anything special; he's just a politician like any other" and "Obama will screw us all (which kind of makes him special no?)" which points increasingly towards something really close to paranoia. The President isn't half as powerful as you think he is and he's also twice as powerful as you think he is. I don't believe Obama will magically fix America, but destroy it? Yeah... Your insistence on stability also happens to miss the point that "more of the same" isn't the route to stability, but rather a spiral downward...to the apocalypse you seem to think Mr. Obama will cause. |
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2008-06-05, 23:37 | Link #1243 |
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Yes. The country de'jour is currently Iran. McCain is going to go back to waving the big stick at Iran. Iran will go back into "Fine, we'll show you what we can do" mode. And we will watch oil spike yet again because of fears of destabilization.
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2008-06-05, 23:40 | Link #1245 | |
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Obama is Wilson + Kennedy + Carter. |
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2008-06-05, 23:41 | Link #1246 | |
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@SeedFreedom I am almost 100% positive that oil prices will skyrocket far higher if Obama gets elected than if Mccain gets elected.
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2008-06-05, 23:43 | Link #1249 | |
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Edit: This post is not saying a windfall tax on the oil companies will help. |
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2008-06-05, 23:46 | Link #1250 | |
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As far as I know, the US Economy is still on top of the world, with California itself being higher than the majority of the EU. I'm not for war, but I'm aware that Obama's policy in Iraq will never work. On one hand, we'll pull the majority of our troops out of Iraq, which most sensible people want. However, he plans to do so and still somehow end the conflict "diplomatically", which is... yeah. I imagine he'll prance down to the middle east and talk things out with Osama (no "Osama is dead" theories, please) himself, especially after learning that he's such a well-to-do guy like his son says he is. While it would be rather disheartening to have yet another WASP in office after running against both a Black candidate and female candidate, it's not as bad as Obama. And has there been any jokes about Clinton being Obama's vice president made yet? This has some amazing potential for lulz. EDIT: And Obama would probably have a jolly time discussing the Holocaust with Ahmadinejad. |
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2008-06-05, 23:47 | Link #1251 | |
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It's always better chosing the lesser of two evils. |
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2008-06-05, 23:47 | Link #1252 | |
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2008-06-05, 23:48 | Link #1253 |
Le fou, c'est moi
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Because normal diplomacy instead of gunboat diplomacy = Wilson + Kennedy + Carter.
@Reckoner Diplomacy > War. Evidence: The last eight years. I don't want to be drafted to visit the ruins of Persopolis, sorry. I love ancient Achaemenid ruins as any other guy, but I'd rather not be visiting it with a gun in my hands and a uniform on my back. And an even more screwed up oil market back at home; because Iraq was a total triumph for US oil prices... |
2008-06-05, 23:49 | Link #1254 | |
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PS: I'm a political economy major. I'm not just an average ignorant person who doesn't know how the world works. |
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2008-06-05, 23:55 | Link #1256 | |
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And, my god, people stop throwing out this draft idea. The U.S. would only ever draft again if we were being attacked on home soil. This is a foreign war, it would never happen.
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2008-06-05, 23:58 | Link #1258 | |
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PS: Your predictions of doom shows that you don't know how the world works. |
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2008-06-06, 00:00 | Link #1259 | |
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And frankly, it's not prediction of "doom", it's prediction of realism. |
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2008-06-06, 00:05 | Link #1260 | |
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You predictions are ludicrous because you actually think Obama will do every single thing he says he will do. That shows you don't know anything about politics. Realistic predictions will say that Obama will keep significant amounts of American troops in Iraq because the conditions on the ground dictate it. |
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