2013-01-03, 21:35 | Link #261 |
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Umm...maybe I should remind you guys that in my original post, I called Goku more “caring” to his family only when it’s compared to Vegeta (in the context of becoming Vegitto/Gogeta). Plus, I'm just kidding with that post .
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2013-01-03, 21:41 | Link #262 |
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Vegeta stated that Gohan was stronger when he fought Cell, not that he was a better fighter at that time. Mystic form was Gohan's absolute peak in terms of every stat (i.e. confidence, battle smarts, fighting skills, strength, speed, etc.). He was just simply outclassed by Gotenks Buu.
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And don't forget the fact Gohan not only had Piccolo's training, but also Goku's training as well. Remember Goku was training Gohan to be his successor and new protector of the Earth. So Goku train him to be a better fighter then himself. In a sence Gohan should have been a better fighter then both. Quote:
Also the Mystic form was only a power up. I don't recall it ever stating that it increased every one of his status to their peak.
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2013-01-03, 23:35 | Link #264 | |
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The only thing that remotely suggests that Gohan's fighting skills got worse was his spending 7 years doing nothing but studying during earth's time of peace. He may have gotten rusty as a result of that, but his performances in the Buu saga aren't inferior to those of his childhood days. The only things that Gohan got better with that came with time, training, and maturity, were confidence, battle smarts, and fighting skills. Everything else got boosted due to the mystic power up.
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2013-01-04, 10:29 | Link #266 |
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Please take my original post with a grain of salt. Plus, I was talking more about daily attitude which is on superficial level, not too deep into their psyche. And you know what? We're arguing here over my joke is silly in itself .
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2013-01-04, 11:01 | Link #267 | |
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2013-01-04, 11:18 | Link #268 |
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About Goku's parenting I never saw Goku as a good dad until before the Cell games when he trains Gohan in that chamber. He pretty much tells him to have more confidence for all the achievements he had and that he is proud of having him as a son. Not only that, he wanted Gohan to become the strongest warrior. That was probably the only time Goku was a complex character although in the next parts of the Cell arc he failed a lot.
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2013-01-04, 11:36 | Link #269 | ||
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2013-01-04, 16:30 | Link #271 |
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Well, he beat the crap out of Buu without breaking a sweat. But then, Buu wasn't really backing down, either. And Goku had trouble with Kid Buu, who statistically would've been at most 60% to 70% of Fat Majin Buu's power level (just a more savage fighter who only wanted blood, not fun).
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2013-01-05, 12:03 | Link #273 |
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Exciting, wanted Goku and the Z fighters back in my life. Though I don't really like the time frame, Buu saga kind of ruined Gohans image for me. Oh well just glad its something new from Toriyama.
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2013-01-05, 21:50 | Link #275 | |
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I'm excited for the movie just for a little bit of fun. I expect there to be issues with it fitting into the storyline in a sensical manner, as is the usual case for these movies. Based on everyone's expectations for it to fit with the canon, I'm left wondering - was it specifically stated somewhere this is supposed to be canon or something? Also, never heard of this new Bardock special... guess I'll have to check that out too even though the plot sounds completely ridiculous. (I always loved the Bardock special as a kid). |
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2013-01-05, 22:03 | Link #277 |
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Heh, alright then. Doesn't make me any more confident it won't have plot-holes/errors, but it gives it a more 'official' feel I suppose. I notice that the main villain's design feels like a throwback to earlier Dragonball, which is nice too. Speaking of which, I'd really love it if Dragonball got a Kai version without the filler.
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2013-01-08, 16:29 | Link #278 | |
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Edit: And he choose Dende over his sons for dragon ball >>>> with it they cam revive everyone(even his children) >>> >>It's been age since last time I watch DBZ but if my memory is right >>>> Namek Dragon ball can only revive one person >>> >>> So if they want to save everyone in earth than they need Dende to be alive. Last edited by Gundamx; 2013-01-09 at 03:20. |
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2013-01-12, 07:32 | Link #279 |
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Interesting note came up in the new Team4Star podcast. It was brought up that they think Bills's name isn't going to end up being pronounced/romanized as Bills, but as Virus. Checking the kana, it certainly could work. Not sure how that'd work with Wiss/Uisu, but still interesting choice of potential name for the "God of Destruction".
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2013-01-25, 08:57 | Link #280 |
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Bills dominating.
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