Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ViVid - Anime General Discussion Thread

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Benigmatica

A Nanoha series being animated by A-1 Pictures is the most stupid thing I've ever heard!

So what will Seven Arcs do? Just Dog Days and that's it?

Last time I checked, it was A-1 Pictures that was churning out at least two series a season, not Seven Arcs. It may possibly a manpower and time schedule issue really.

[Tiresias]

Have 7Arcs make anything aside from Dog Days the last three years?

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Have 7Arcs make anything aside from Dog Days the last three years?

Mushibugyou, Nanoha Movie A's. And they are making Trinity Seven this Fall, Dog Days 3 in Winter and Nanoha: Reflection (if it's still legit and they won't give it to another studio)

[Dr. Dahm]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Last time I checked, it was A-1 Pictures that was churning out at least two series a season, not Seven Arcs. It may possibly a manpower and time schedule issue really.

I think it's just a matter of Aniplex buying up and consolidating just about any popular license out there and King Records being willing enough to oblige to hand over the animation adaptation rights to Nanoha to them. I mean their business model is basically very similar to EA Games at the bottom line only for anime. Eliminate competition via consolidation and acquisition, being first on popular and expiring rights of titles the second the opportunity arises to exploit them commercially, attempt to monopolize and poach talent and popular industry names as much as possible, aggressive advertising campaigns, flooding the market with premium priced product and regular installments of their most popular titles, crazy man hours that go beyond the industry standard etc.

Nanoha is still a high potential license yet 7 Arcs hasn't done anything with it besides the compilation films recently and this is a manga adaptation that if I'm not mistaken King Records owns the rights too. More than likely one of the producers from Aniplex approached King Records and said they wanted to do a new an adaptation of it and they said okay as long as they get a say in it too and they decided to do it at A-1 where they're slowly but surely transferring more than a few of their licenses from smaller studios like AIC and the like from.

About the question people had regarding the opening, King Records owns the rights to Nana Mizuki and Yukari Tamura's music so depending on how the contracts are organized they might still be doing the theme songs. If it's Aniplex that has that say then expect a Sony Music Entertainment artists instead. Here are some of the options in that case. For the record SME tends to skew more towards J-Rock in terms of genre.

[Benigmatica]

BTW, you forgot to mention that the Nanoha series was a spin-off to the Triangle Heart eroge series. Then again, its obscurity (save for the third installment) led to being irrelevant as of present.

[Stark700]

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[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Hiss13

Is this for real? A-1 Pictures? Isn't Nanoha supposed to be exclusive to Seven Arcs?

A-1 isn't exactly known for its quality...

Their reputation for quality beats Seven Arcs by a mile. Out of the many complaints Sword Art Online gets on a daily basis, even the fiercest critic admits that SAO has damn good visuals.

Movies aside (which have higher budgets and generally a longer production time) Nanoha's animation has always been sup-par. For an action-heavy series such as Vivid, I'm happy that the baton has passed from Seven Arcs to A1.

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Their reputation for quality beats Seven Arcs by a mile. Out of the many complaints Sword Art Online gets on a daily basis, even the fiercest critic admits that SAO has damn good visuals.

Movies aside (which have higher budgets and generally a longer production time) Nanoha's animation has always been sup-par. For an action-heavy series such as Vivid, I'm happy that the baton has passed from Seven Arcs to A1.

Honestly, I think I was just a bit annoyed at first when I saw that Vivid would not be done by Seven Arcs. At this point, I'll just wait until the series actually airs before making any judgements.

[Nachtwandler]

As I said before the main problem is not the change of studio but the fact that Tsuzuki himself only credited as Original creator while scripts are given to quite unexperienced scriptwriter.

[00-Raiser]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

As I said before the main problem is not the change of studio but the fact that Tsuzuki himself only credited as Original creator while scripts are given to quite unexperienced scriptwriter.

Does that really matter? They're just going to be adapting the manga's script anyways.

[Akiyoshi]

They won't have any excuses to make filler episodes. They have plenty of story to adapt as also ViVid is already a very relaxed manga with a good measure of filler-like chapters.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

They won't have any excuses to make filler episodes.

They do. For a manga all about the yuri fanservice, Vivid is surprisingly lacking in nanofate. I would not be surprised to see tweaks, rewrites and even whole episodes added to include more of that.

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Does that really matter? They're just going to be adapting the manga's script anyways.

We are talking about A-1 here. Than they were in charge a bunch of popular mangas were butched by scriptwriters so I'm really concer5d because of autrhors uninvolment in this season.

[00-Raiser]

Well let me just take a look at this list of their works based on manga then.

Kannagi was good, Black Butler was good, Fairy Tail is good, Working is good, and Blue Exorcist was good. Rest I can't comment on because I haven't seen them.

So yeah, I fail to see a problem. Not like Vivid has much of a plot to mess up anyways.

[Nachtwandler]

ViVid has just enough plot. Maybe less in Tournament arc but quite more in later chapters. And Ao no Exorcist had about 1/3 anime-original eps which all the manga readers consider worser than equal manga arcs.

[Tiresias]

So that's...one. Geez, from the way you previously describe it, it's as if they butchered plenty.

Not that I actually expect they will do it right (current opinion is on "maybe"), but one fluke isn't a sign of eternal failure.

[Nachtwandler]

I just named the one from the least above. Third of the Black Butler and all of the S2 were anime-original too but I don't knowe howe they are compared to the manga. And I could easily name bunch of the adaptations they screwed but I doubt anyone else here cares.

[00-Raiser]

Anime original content =/= butchering. Just because an adaptation isn't 100% the same as the original doesn't mean it's the worst thing ever. I, for one, welcome any new adventures I can only experience in the anime. If I wanted something 100% the same as the manga I'd just read the bloody manga.

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Anime original content =/= butchering. Just because an adaptation isn't 100% the same as the original doesn't mean it's the worst thing ever. I, for one, welcome any new adventures I can only experience in the anime. If I wanted something 100% the same as the manga I'd just read the bloody manga.

While this is true, it generally tends to be that anime original content does butcher or distort the original by giving it a different tone. Take To Aru Kagaku no Railgun, for instance.


On another note, yesterday was the 10th anniversary for the series, wasn't it?

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Hiss13

While this is true, it generally tends to be that anime original content does butcher or distort the original by giving it a different tone. Take To Aru Kagaku no Railgun, for instance.

S2 was mediocre, but Railgun's S1's anime original content actually finished an arc the manga has left hanging to this very day.