(L) Munou na Nana (Talentless Nana)

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Manga 'Talentless Nana' will be getting an anime adaptation.

Plot Summary

It is the year 20XX. Earth has been assaulted by monsters known as 'the Enemy of Humanity'. In order to deal with this threat, special schools comprised of teenagers with extraordinary abilities were formed. These people, who came to be known as 'the Talented', have abilities that defy the rules of reality. Among these superpowered individuals was an outlier, someone who was sent to one of these schools despite having no innate special abilities whatsoever. This is the story of our protagonist, who attempts to defeat the Enemies of Humanity through the use of intelligence and manipulation.

Director: Shinji Ishihara
Studio: Birdge

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Official site and Twitter is up

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New teaser PV reveals that it will air in Fall (October) 2020

[Tenzen12]

It's not like premise isn't interesting, but I cannot imagine world where I am cheering for sociopathic protagonist murdering bunch of innocent children for some potential crimes. Not even fire fatty deserve that.

Not gonna watch it, but will keep eye on thread to see if she get defeated, which would make it worth binging afterward.

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

It's not like premise isn't interesting, but I cannot imagine world where I am cheering for sociopathic protagonist murdering bunch of innocent children for some potential crimes. Not even fire fatty deserve that.

Not gonna watch it, but will keep eye on thread to see if she get defeated, which would make it worth binging afterward.

well to be fair some of that "innocent" childrens do display potential behaviour to be in worst case scene a dangerou big villian or in a little better scene to be at last a "the boys" type of scum hero, the problem here is which to avoid to have to waste time and give time to then get more strong, while trying to"find out who is "good from who is evil" the fast scene was to "kill everyone" before they develop to much they powers and can become out of control.

[Tenzen12]

Which why she killed one most suited to lead them on right path first?

Nah that argument wouldn't not fly with me, even if it was 100% legit and it's half of it at best.

[Kanon]

Nana doesn't seem like she's actually enjoying what she's doing, and we don't know her backstory nor the exact reasons she's doing this, it's too early to judge her.

Anyway, it's super weird to kill the kid whose power is to suppress other powers. How was he dangerous?

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Which why she killed one most suited to lead them on right path first?

Nah that argument wouldn't not fly with me, even if it was 100% legit and it's half of it at best.

Originally Posted by Kanon

Nana doesn't seem like she's actually enjoying what she's doing, and we don't know her backstory nor the exact reasons she's doing this, it's too early to judge her.

Anyway, it's super weird to kill the kid whose power is to suppress other powers. How was he dangerous?

because with this power he could "control" the heroes and if him become a force of evil he could had turned many of then his puppets to control and use then to dominate the world, well based on what we saw here without go spoiler, the idea here was in the past "something" too powerfull(in this cases the super humans) goes out of control and started to havock chaos and almost destroyed mankind, then manakind "somehow find a way" to defeat that "something" and now is using this "facility" to prevent any new super human to exist again.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Nana doesn't seem like she's actually enjoying what she's doing, and we don't know her backstory nor the exact reasons she's doing this, it's too early to judge her.

Anyway, it's super weird to kill the kid whose power is to suppress other powers. How was he dangerous?

Yeah, feels like it would be more productive to capture the kid and try to experiment on him to replicate his ability or something than outright kill him.

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Spoiler for ep1:

I like the "He wasn't the real protagonist" trick (I've seen it before in Garei though), but the overall atmosphere was...
*checks Wiki*

Yeah, it is a shounen manga. The whole amazing protagonist in a secluded area with a bunch of special students screamed so Assassination Classroom to me.
The whole "She actually isn't airheaded!" and "This blue-haired guy isn't evil, but we are going to make him look like it!" thing was a bit too predictable though, thanks to that.

But eh, it wasn't bad. Don't fix what isn't broken.
Better than joining most of the anime each season and this season that make you want to just stare out the window instead of looking at the screen.

[BWTraveller]

I'd say the first ep did a fairly good job. There were several moments when I thought "I wonder..." but I always second-guessed or dropped the thought right until the push. I kind of hoped that it wouldn't be like that, I'm kind of a sucker for sweet relationships, even if they are done a lot, but this certainly looks to head in a very interesting direction.

That said, two things. First, I can't say I agree with the strategy.

Spoiler for strategy:

Try to kill all the students because they'll potentially kill or lead to the deaths of millions in the future? And apparently there's only one person there to do it? The chances of success don't look all that good and antagonizing them by killing them off one by one is all too likely to drive the others to taking the feared paths. It'd be far better to try and guide them toward a positive path, either by getting to know them and manipulating/leading/inspiring them to use their powers for good or by providing concrete enemies for them to face to again inspire them toward a protective path. Nanao in particular has a lot of potential to guide people in the right path if he could just get some help to overcome his darker sides and find a way to become what he wants to be. I kind of suspect that's where things will end up going anyway.
Some will certainly die, but others will rise up to the challenge and prove that they can follow a different path. Pity that she didn't come back with that strategy in mind.

Second, exposing things so early on takes some of the fun out.

Spoiler:

I love the idea of "mole" stories, with one person who's secretly working against everyone else or even killing them off one by one. That uncertainty of just who is an ally and who is an enemy can bring a lot of suspense if it's done well. That dangerous game of trying to thwart the enemy or persuade them to abandon their mission while struggling to figure out just who they are is really fun. Telling us straight from the beginning that so-and-so is the traitor/mole/killer and making it pretty clear that so-and-so is a counter-agent who knows the truth eliminates that source of suspense. It's still interesting since it becomes a cat-and-mouse game, but I still like stories where you don't know which one's the cat better.

[AC-Phoenix]

Not yet seen the episode but I'll give this a chance... Because the blood splatter on the cover looks promising that it's not just another 08/15 shonen ...

E:
Nana being the mole was obvious from the start, and I'm not talking about the cover art. She was far too engaged with, the guy who were were supposed to perceive as the talentless MC,and, it was obvious he didn't lose his watch in the cafeteria too as the only moment where it could have fallen off was when he "saved" her from death. But well.. the watch thing turned out to be a mistake on my part.

I just wish they had made the guy the last to survive and never told us it was Nana, to at least cast SOME doubt on that. Now, we can't even be sure if her narrative is the correct one.

[Kanon]

Hmm, what happened to the previous discussion?

[Blueknight78]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Hmm, what happened to the previous discussion?

good question i remember it being "after the episode release" not before or not even being spoilers O.o

[LKK]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Hmm, what happened to the previous discussion?

Previous discussion posts restored. Sorry about that.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Blueknight78

because with this power he could "control" the heroes and if him become a force of evil he could had turned many of then his puppets to control and use then to dominate the world, well based on what we saw here without go spoiler, the idea here was in the past "something" too powerfull(in this cases the super humans) goes out of control and started to havock chaos and almost destroyed mankind, then manakind "somehow find a way" to defeat that "something" and now is using this "facility" to prevent any new super human to exist again.

As far as we could tell, he could only cancel powers, not control them. His ability is harmless, and he only ended up as the leader because Nana pushed him on that road. It feels like he could have been humanity's greatest weapon instead.

[BWTraveller]

Originally Posted by Kanon

As far as we could tell, he could only cancel powers, not control them. His ability is harmless, and he only ended up as the leader because Nana pushed him on that road. It feels like he could have been humanity's greatest weapon instead.

I'd say consider Academia. It's hardly unusual for powers to grow over time and for an exploration of said powers to uncover unknown facets or unique methods of application. And if he had the charisma to bring people together and lead them then it may have been just a matter of time before he finally organized a group beneath him. True, that group may have become like a band of superheroes, but it also could just as easily have become a band of supervillains.

[Tenzen12]

So let's kill all superhuman regardless whether they are good or bad just to be safe? That's safest way to get superpowered extremists for sure.

When we are at it we should kill all wealthy people too. They may use they money for charities and stuff, but they could also hire bunch of mercenaries and hitmens and commit all kind of evil! Also all soldiers, chemists, doctors and dog trainers.

[BWTraveller]

I'd say it depends on where she's coming from and what the backstory is. It could be that there's some kind of precedent to believe the talented to be invariably dangerous, or perhaps she's from the future and in her timeline these kids actually were responsible for the deaths of millions. Whatever way it goes, I rather hope that she eventually comes to doubt such extreme viewpoints and tries to find a different path. Though this'd probably not happen until a lot of those students are already dead.

[Tenzen12]

Her being from future is pretty much implied, doesn't change she just murdered innocent nice kid with no hesitation or remorse.

Well If she gradualy change that would be OK