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Old 2014-06-03, 18:24   Link #81
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i doubt it would be prohibited if that's all there was to it would kind of make it not that impressive.

it's power will no doubt improve drastically since this was only the second time he used it and the first time he used it without being in JOD.
Well, it depends what you think of when I say extreme. The sky literally stayed red after he used it.

Actually it's the second time he used it without being in JD, since he was in Balance Breaker when he fused with Great Red.
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Old 2014-06-03, 18:26   Link #82
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Well, it depends what you think of when I say extreme. The sky literally stayed red after he used it.

Actually it's the second time he used it without being in JD, since he was in Balance Breaker when he fused with Great Red.
well i ignored that one since he was fused with great reds energy
which meant it wasn't entirely with his own power so it would fall out the window since we're trying to ascertain its power.
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Old 2014-06-04, 11:40   Link #83
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well i ignored that one since he was fused with great reds energy
which meant it wasn't entirely with his own power so it would fall out the window since we're trying to ascertain its power.
Exacly pretty apple pie!!!

We are going to take in consideration the 2 times Issei use it on his own.
When against Shalba the first time and in the coming volume 17.

It has to be very, VERY, powerful to prohibit its use.

So at the very least it has to be in god killing level.
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Old 2014-06-04, 12:20   Link #84
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If we base its destructive level with those two fights, then it's not in god-killing level yet.
  • Issei in incomplete JD + Longinus Smasher = near dead Shalba with Ophis' snake
  • Issei in CCQ + Longinus Smasher = defeats Euclid in Fake BGSM.

So, not yet.
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Old 2014-06-04, 17:47   Link #85
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If we base its destructive level with those two fights, then it's not in god-killing level yet.
  • Issei in incomplete JD + Longinus Smasher = near dead Shalba with Ophis' snake
  • Issei in CCQ + Longinus Smasher = defeats Euclid in Fake BGSM.

So, not yet.

Okay, then, why prohibit it then?
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Old 2014-06-04, 19:28   Link #86
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Ddraig responds to me immediately, and the chest-part of the Boosted-Gear Scale-mail slides open. Then a cannon appears. This is….
[…..Longinus Smasher. It’s a taboo power which you are not supposed to attain.]
Ddraig says that with a low voice. ……Longinus Smasher. I think one of my comrades said I used it when I went into Juggernaut-Drive. They said I blasted off Shalba in one hit with it.
I believe the prohibited one is the JD, Longinus Smasher was only unlocked after Issei entered JD after all.
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Old 2014-06-08, 02:25   Link #87
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i wish issei in the future learn some Martial Arts and how to use Touki like Sairaorg Bael
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Old 2014-06-08, 02:40   Link #88
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i wish issei in the future learn some Martial Arts and how to use Touki like Sairaorg Bael
He's basically learning Martial Arts from the Monkey King right now, and Sairaorg's Touki was a complete accident after he trained his body past the limits. Ise has the Boosted Gear and dragon abilities he needs to focus on, as well as an interest in magic. To go after something that has basically 0% likelihood of obtaining would be pointless. If he maxes out his current abilities, basically no one would be able to take him on lightly, if at all.
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Old 2014-06-08, 06:16   Link #89
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He's basically learning Martial Arts from the Monkey King right now, and Sairaorg's Touki was a complete accident after he trained his body past the limits. Ise has the Boosted Gear and dragon abilities he needs to focus on, as well as an interest in magic. To go after something that has basically 0% likelihood of obtaining would be pointless. If he maxes out his current abilities, basically no one would be able to take him on lightly, if at all.
He cant be taken lightly now but, I get your point.
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Old 2014-06-09, 02:44   Link #90
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Hmm. Since nothing's going around. I'd like to have a discussion about Saji's added Sacred Gears.

Till now, we know 3 Sacred Gears are added to Saji namely Delete Field, Absorption Line, and Blaze Black Fire. And we also know that there are other Vritra Sacred Gears.

But when I reread that part, I think we misunderstood something. And that is...
  • Saji doesn't have just 4... he has all 16 of them. Yes, there are 16 Vritra Sacred Gears all in all.

Look at this line.
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But if you were to group them, there are four types of [Absorption Line], [Blaze Black Flare], [Delete Field], and [Shadow Prison]. These Sacred Gears were hidden with each possessor with some differences. And our organisation, Grigori, retrieved them and put the Vritra-type Sacred Gears that we kept into Saji-kun.
4 (types)x 4 (SG)= 16. And the next sentence says that Grigori collected them and added those to Saji.

~So what do you think? Is my speculation about Vritra Gears correct?

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Old 2014-06-09, 06:08   Link #91
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Jop I thought it was a tempory give them all to him thing? Guess I remember that part wrong. That many pieces permenant seems like it will be too much for the pieces he contants. Wouldnt that make him need to be like Ise and have 8 vs 5. I'll go with him having them all just to continue convo. I dont see that many really doing much for him right now. He is beating himself up to much. If he still has them all and wants to use them fully I think it will take motivation. If he could be assured of gaining Sona I think it will be the drive he needs to fully unlock them all. He is into Sona like Ise is for Rias. He just doesnt have the drive to push to make her happy and hope that it results in changing her mind.
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Old 2014-06-09, 11:57   Link #92
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Hmm. Since nothing's going around. I'd like to have a discussion about Saji's added Sacred Gears.

Till now, we know 3 Sacred Gears are added to Saji namely Delete Field, Absorption Line, and Blaze Black Fire. And we also know that there are other Vritra Sacred Gears.

But when I reread that part, I think we misunderstood something. And that is...
  • Saji doesn't have just 4... he has all 16 of them. Yes, there are 16 Vritra Sacred Gears all in all.

Look at this line.


4 (types)x 4 (SG)= 16. And the next sentence says that Grigori collected them and added those to Saji.

~So what do you think? Is my speculation about Vritra Gears correct?
If that so, It would explain the armor a little bit more. Since we can imply that each part of the armor represent each sacred gear in Saji body.
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Old 2014-06-10, 06:56   Link #93
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Hmm just curious if you gonna make all star peearage of the rookie 4 who will you pick from king to pawn?

Lastly do you thing agares will gain a dragon type and Longinus "Issei & Regulus"/somewhat Longinus "Saji" in her peearage like the other 3 of rookie 4

Gremory = Humanoid True Dragon
Sitri = Human with Dragon King SG
Bael = Devil that can transform to a Dragon

Just like the current maou who have legendary creature in their peerage?

Maybe a mecha dragon like Gogmagog in her peerage XD
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Old 2014-06-10, 11:57   Link #94
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Hmm just curious if you gonna make all star peearage of the rookie 4 who will you pick from king to pawn?

Lastly do you thing agares will gain a dragon type and Longinus "Issei & Regulus"/somewhat Longinus "Saji" in her peearage like the other 3 of rookie 4

Gremory = Humanoid True Dragon
Sitri = Human with Dragon King SG
Bael = Devil that can transform to a Dragon

Just like the current maou who have legendary creature in their peerage?

Maybe a mecha dragon like Gogmagog in her peerage XD
That's the problem, we don't know anything about her peerage. Hopefully that will be fixed in future stories.
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Old 2014-06-10, 13:22   Link #95
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Hmm. Since nothing's going around. I'd like to have a discussion about Saji's added Sacred Gears.

Till now, we know 3 Sacred Gears are added to Saji namely Delete Field, Absorption Line, and Blaze Black Fire. And we also know that there are other Vritra Sacred Gears.

But when I reread that part, I think we misunderstood something. And that is...
  • Saji doesn't have just 4... he has all 16 of them. Yes, there are 16 Vritra Sacred Gears all in all.

Look at this line.


4 (types)x 4 (SG)= 16. And the next sentence says that Grigori collected them and added those to Saji.

~So what do you think? Is my speculation about Vritra Gears correct?
I can see that as a possibility, although it doesn't change the fact that saji still only has four techniques in his current SG
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Old 2014-06-10, 13:30   Link #96
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Hmm just curious if you gonna make all star peearage of the rookie 4 who will you pick from king to pawn?

Lastly do you thing agares will gain a dragon type and Longinus "Issei & Regulus"/somewhat Longinus "Saji" in her peearage like the other 3 of rookie 4

Gremory = Humanoid True Dragon
Sitri = Human with Dragon King SG
Bael = Devil that can transform to a Dragon

Just like the current maou who have legendary creature in their peerage?

Maybe a mecha dragon like Gogmagog in her peerage XD
The problem is, Gremory's peerage is already all-star

What i can see is Opantsu Dragon Mecha version as agarest's new peerage
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Old 2014-06-10, 13:34   Link #97
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What i can see is Opantsu Dragon Mecha version as agarest's new peerage
Spoiler for Mecha Fafnir:
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Old 2014-06-10, 14:31   Link #98
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. . . . . . ok, you can shoot me now.
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Old 2014-06-10, 18:00   Link #99
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Spoiler for Mecha Fafnir:
Just call it the Iron Maiden Pantsu Dragon King.
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Old 2014-06-10, 18:17   Link #100
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Quick question if its ok to ask? What is the personality of agares?

Is she strong too based on ss

Last question who is the man he is talking to is it sahariel?
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