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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 14 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 103 | 45.98% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 58 | 25.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 19 | 8.48% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 16 | 7.14% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 10 | 4.46% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.45% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 5 | 2.23% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 3 | 1.34% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.45% | |
1 out of 10 : Tortuous... | 8 | 3.57% | |
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2012-10-06, 15:48 | Link #87 |
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It's a valid opinion, but I'm not sure that just not liking a hero being presented as a hero in a story about a hero (and a heroine) is all that useful as "criticism". It's not like there isn't a long history of recognized fiction in many cultures about heroes. And, as I said above, most of the plot elements he is complaining about were clearly foreshadowed in the story as well (like, being the player with the fastest reaction time, figuring out who Heathcliff really was, having a chance to duel the villain, and even being able to win -- he was allowed to win). I suppose there are a few things that come across as bit convenient in this episode, but it's a bit too exaggerated to be taken as "valid criticism". It's really just a rant.
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2012-10-06, 15:49 | Link #88 |
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As to why Asuna is still alive. Any number of reasons can be made up, mercy, breaking the game, ect. Even though rationally, you can try to put the game up to a perfect pedestal with ironclad rules, but the show showed enough instances where 'emotion' or whatever can over-ride aspects of it.
Anyway, decent end to the whole thing. Kayaba's explanation for the whole thing as to why he did it was dumb and totally bs. I thought it was hilarious how he let Kirito and Asuna think they were still gonna die anyway. That was HeartSeed level of trolling.
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2012-10-06, 15:53 | Link #89 |
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Some points why Asuna probably didnt die:
1. Kirito told to the Admin that Asuna cant kill herself.. which she did in this case.. 2. Do you remember the item which can revieve players some seconds after their dead? Maybe there a small time after the ingame dead and the real dead... Since the game ended while Asuna was in "that" time, she didint die. Just my mind. |
2012-10-06, 15:55 | Link #90 | |||
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Also how was Kirito able to move his arms after his HP hit 0? Even if there was that delay you mention, he should have been a totally immobile state even after his HP was gone. Quote:
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2012-10-06, 15:56 | Link #91 |
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Anyway the only not explained thing is kirito survival.
He got yellow person showing up in his death scene and yellow eyes. Imo it was Yui ghost that actually did save him. Unless he got some magical *power of love* that made his eyes glow yellow.
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2012-10-06, 16:01 | Link #93 | |
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That's not convenient, that's all out ass-pull. At most you could explain it as the power of love or something like that but that's still pretty out there, specially for this setting. I personally don't mind because I knew what I was getting into when I started watching, but I can absolutely understand if someone can't except that sort of things so easily. So yeah, I think Duckroll has a point.
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2012-10-06, 16:05 | Link #96 | |||
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Basically if you take that whole section of dialogue and just treat is as a sarcastic statement (which is what was conveyed in the tone), I think it all makes sense.
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2012-10-06, 16:12 | Link #98 |
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-blink- -blink, blink-. Wow.
Just wow. Half of my time after Kirito and Asuna's 'death' was spent saying "How are they still talking to Kayaba - aren't they all dead?" Seriously, at the start of the episode (purely from the title), I had a feeling the game would clear, in a way (didn't expect Heathcliff to be Kayaba mind ) - but the survival of Kazuto (and potentially Asuna?) was something I didn't expect. Never thought I'd say this, but it brought me to tears - joy or despair, I'm still not sure. But fair play to SAO for pulling this off - better off this kind of 'trolling' than one of those series where both survive and they live happily ever after. Only question now is...where do we go from here? |
2012-10-06, 16:13 | Link #99 |
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Kirito and Asuna's situation is meant to be left unexplained. It doesn't matter how they did it, the important thing is that both of them had beaten the game of Sword Art Online.
Kayaba had said it himself that he was satisfied from seeing that the law of his own world was broken. Asuna cancelled the paralysis by herself, and Kirito didn't die when he was killed, that's what it means to "beat the game", to overcome the constrain of the system, surpassing its law, breaking something that should not have been possible to be broken. It's because both Kirito and Asuna had done it that Kayaba had congratulated both of them for beating the game. Kirito skewering Kayaba at the end was just a bonus reward, not the achievement itself. |
2012-10-06, 16:14 | Link #100 | |
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He didn't do anything like that btw.
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