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While I sympathise with his difficulties, I can't help but sense a trace of petulant pique in between the lines of Snowden's statement from Moscow. He would have to be very naive to think he could escape from this whole affair scot-free.
The other story that is rarely heard outside of the United States is the impact of Snowden's escapade on his father, Lon Snowden. Quote:
Meanwhile, The Washington Post has published an AP article by a good friend of mine. First openly gay S'pore politician says anti-gay law will be history Quote:
EDIT2: I don't think anyone will deny that Snowden's dramatic expose has all the elements of a spy thriller. These indie film-makers have already made a pilot. Last edited by TinyRedLeaf; 2013-07-02 at 04:50. |
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2013-07-02, 05:26 | Link #29202 |
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Iranian Arms ship seized by Yemen may have been Somalia-bound.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...96101E20130702 With all the sanctions than they got, I have to wonder how they still manage to get the money to waste on weapons for terrorists, rebels and Syria. Exclusive: Greece has three days to deliver or face consequences - EU officials http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...96107A20130702
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2013-07-02, 20:49 | Link #29203 |
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After reading the Der Speigel article, I understand more about why the Europeans are up in arms about it.
That being said, I wonder just how much of the populace is really concerned about this. Especially those in Southern Europe who have much bigger bread and butter issues facing them in the day. Also, do we REALLY think that this will derail US-EU free trade talks? Maybe delay sure, but derail? |
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2013-07-03, 05:18 | Link #29205 | |
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You can't do such talks while the other side spys on you and knows all your strategies beforehand. |
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2013-07-03, 06:17 | Link #29206 | |
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It's not a question of what they did or are accused of doing. The French constitution forbids the extradition of French citizens to other countries. No more, no less. |
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2013-07-03, 06:22 | Link #29207 |
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China slowdown, Portugal tensions spook markets
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...88901C20130703 Rivals play down China's overture in S.China Sea, no breakthrough http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...96206020130703
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That's why the government is pissed at Snowden. They're far less worried about what the American public thinks about the leaks in comparison to the damage it causes in pursuing political, corporate, and military interests around the world. When a leader talks about "national interests" or "national security" in the US, they're rarely talking about it in relation to the public interest or security. They're concerned about getting, keeping, and maintaining power, resources, and money, nothing more. Having such in depth and advanced spying and data storage capability is a big deal for those interests, one they're not keen on letting other countries know about or have access to, either literally or technologically. Hence the increase in cyber warfare under the Obama administration, where we've seen its influence grow as the program has matured. What Snowden did was incredibly damaging to the US elite, in that regard, which is why he's basically a dead man walking.
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2013-07-03, 10:31 | Link #29209 |
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For those than can read French : Surveillance électronique: "On ne peut pas reprocher aux Américains de faire mieux leur métier que nous" ( Electronic surveillance: ' we can't blame the American to do their job better than us )
http://www.latribune.fr/opinions/tri...-que-nous.html
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2013-07-03, 21:51 | Link #29210 |
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That's what the government is mad about, but if they never spied on American citizens Snowden would never have leaked. The fact is Americans expect to be treated better than the filthy foreigners outside their lands. They broke that promise, so the leak happened. Cause and Effect.
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2013-07-03, 21:55 | Link #29211 |
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Egypt army topples president, announces transition
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...95Q0NO20130704 I'm surprised than nobody posted it sooner.
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2013-07-03, 23:01 | Link #29214 |
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Speaking of Snowden, how the hell he managed to punch through the security screening and obtained high clearances? I mean, I'm amazed that the agency he now turned his back on somewhat neglected to comb through his background and could've flagged him as an intelligence risk early on. But then history showed us Marchetti, Manning, and many others.
It is of no surprise that the US intelligence services have made themselves the laughingstock of the world, and their presence have only served to magnify foreign mistrust towards that nation.
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2013-07-03, 23:47 | Link #29216 | |
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No wonder how they completely missed the boat with former FBI agent and pro-USSR/Russia mole Robert Hanssen for 22 years before they arrested him. |
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2013-07-04, 00:02 | Link #29217 | |
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2. Snowden became disilluion while on the job. Before he had both a military background and work for the NSA. And had express views online that are close to the governments.
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We'll never know the whole story, and I doubt what he leaked is all he knows. But he took employment for a spying company, he had to have known some of that spying would be on America itself. But Snowden clearly saw something he felt was so bad he had to take action. The privatizing of government. It's worse than you think.
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2013-07-04, 01:16 | Link #29219 | |
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Well, it wasn't my shift and I was out at a party last night when the news broke. So, yeah, that's why I didn't post about the latest Egyptian coup.
Anyways, the story has moved on: Egypt army confirms it is holding Mursi Quote:
By the way, happy Fourth of July to all Americans out there. I thought there was an Independence Day thread, but I can't seem to find it any more. |
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