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View Poll Results: Sword Art Online - Episode 22 Rating | |||
10 out of 10 : Near Perfect... | 71 | 47.97% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 39 | 26.35% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 18 | 12.16% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 9 | 6.08% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 2 | 1.35% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.68% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 3 | 2.03% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 2 | 1.35% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.68% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 2 | 1.35% | |
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2012-12-02, 04:53 | Link #122 | ||
Bittersweet Distractor
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 32
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Pardon my intrusion on the conversation.
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So aside from your issues with the choice of cliche for her character, I think labeling her as a plot device seems sort of strange considering she is the POV for a good amount of the story more or less for this arc. Plot devices don't typically dominate the POV of the story, so I think this is a flawed interpretation. The fact of the matter here is that ALO isn't just about Kirito's quest to save Asuna, it's just as much about Suguha and her relationship with her brother. Whether that's a plot line you like, I'd take it you don't and I personally have my own issues with it but not to your extent, is a different story. However, asserting she is nothing but a convenient plot device to serve the purpose of Kirito's guide is a bit flimsy. The story could have easily abused Yui to give Kirito all the information he needs so Kawahara obviously felt that he had a story to tell with Suguha that he deemed meaningful enough to take a major role in the story for this arc. Quote:
Again, the point of view of this arc hasn't just been from Kazuto, in fact I feel we have seen things more from Suguha's than Kazuto's the entire time. A major effort has been put into developing Suguha has her own character with her own conflicts and her own worries and her own goals. Essentially, she isn't simply a fodder side character who is used to bounce off Kazuto because she's been given much too much attention in this arc IMO. I would also like to think that her character has seen more development than simply being a dead end romance. Though it's mostly reaffirming many of the themes of SAO arc, Kirito has made quite an impression on her about the wonders of VRMMORPG and how it is highly comparable emotionally to the real world in the way they treat it. The fun of being engrossed in a complete fantasy world, that is a lot of what is being communicated in this arc.
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2012-12-02, 05:30 | Link #123 |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Very good episode and the realisation that Kirito is her brother was very well done. Made up for last episodes slow mode logout scene.
I loved the way how Sugu conveyed her feelings especially as it seems to stem from her PoV, as I remember/believe that Kirito started avoiding his sister because he felt guilty letting her deal with their granddad and the kendo lessons. Very excited to see how they deal with this situation
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2012-12-02, 07:08 | Link #125 | ||
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You know, I'm now reminded of Sana's route in Mashifoni. Gotta love the under dog! EDIT: Images I am sorry I am a terrible person for laughing at this Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?
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2012-12-02, 08:03 | Link #127 | |
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Unfortunately, I can't use the LN to argue that case. But if, if the producers had , theoretically decided to make Suguha a child-hood friend, then the entire SAO Arc outside the Asuna-centric proportions would have had to be rewritten. Suguha is CENTRAL to Kirito's character, this appears most obviously in the Saachi and Scillia cases. Had A1, in a fit of narrative creativity (that they haven't shown in this rather mediocre adaptation) decided to swap Suguha from Sister/Cousin status to Child-hood friend, then SAO would have strayed away from LN canon quite significantly. Spoiler for LN to Anime Comparisons:
Now, there is quite a few people out here, and elsewhere who believes that the SAO Adaptation was better off rewritten rather than blindly adapted (and even then, the script-writer IMO has some rather funny ideas of what is essential information - as early as Episode 1, but that's another topic. ) Which is rather impossible, given that unlike Chuunibyou, SAO has 10 volumes and counting, and the first arc is currently being rewritten. By suggesting that there's no difference between Suguha's status as Cousin or Childhood friend, you are basically proposing a change every bit as large, as say. Spoiler for Chuunibyou LN Spoilers:
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2012-12-02, 08:08 | Link #128 |
The Anime Maniac
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 37
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All I can say is that I am heartbroken watching Sugu heartbroken just like that. I knew this dreaded day would come when Kirito reveals the name and then Sugu goes...what? Now, I wonder how Kirito would deal with this kind of situation. I myself don't really know but to, I guess, let her calm down for now...
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2012-12-02, 09:03 | Link #133 | |
Marauder Shields
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Well all i can say after i read many comments is, the writer has achieved what he intended do. Make the audience feel pitty for Suguha and that in an extremely penetrant way.
fragb85 from random curiosity said it exactly how i feel about this whole Suguha thing. Quote:
But that she fell for Kirito, a guy she barely knew and only met a couple of days in a game without really knowing anything about him except that he is cool, and that he turned out to be the same guy that was never interested in her in the first place and who had already someone he loves, made me facepalm even more. This whole thing was just way way way too forced for me to be taken seriously or make me feel more than just amused about the ridiculousness of this situation. I'm usually very empathic and I can feel easily sorry for charcters in a story, but not if it is done in such an incredible penetrant and forced way like in this case. Sorry, but it just doesn't work for me. This whole arc has been a dissapointment for me. Instead on focusing on Kirito, his thoughts, his worries and on Asuna etc., we are forced to watch this nonsense with Suguha and that only for forced dramas sake. But don't take me wrong, this show is still way above avarage for me and I will watch to the end to see how we get to the happy ending. As if that would change anything. And she was never in a competition in the first place. |
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2012-12-02, 09:06 | Link #134 |
a random Indonesian otaku
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Xanadu
Age: 32
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at first, yeah! Kirito-Asuna finally can make some contact (love the picture anyway)
and Kirito's brute force is not bad as well... at least he put some awesome fight in the losing battle... when Lyfa appeared, I conclude that these Kirigaya 'siblings' maybe can conquer those guardians if they entered together... hahaha... awesome action by both of them then... that moment when Asuna mentioned.... oh damn! although Sugu must be appreciated for pumping up enough courage to go out from her room and confront her beloved onii-chan... Kirito also being a dumb for just be quiet and non-stop apologizing act.. explain something, man! if you can't say anything, leave her alone... then, SAO this week leave all the heart-broken watchers |
2012-12-02, 09:37 | Link #136 | |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Age: 34
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Thats why I don't like Kirito anymore save for counted occasions, the guy is very unstable character wise and plain... |
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2012-12-02, 09:37 | Link #137 |
Book Elitist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Nasuverse
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The only girl who had a chance against Asuna died years before in SAO. poor girl.
Anyway, awesome ep.! Romance was generic and obvious but that's how it is in RL as well. Spectators can see what's going on but those in question do not. Lesson to learn, not everything is sweet and dandy. Harems are nasty if played right, not those silly comedy/harem/romance anime that we all have watched. Kirito go! You're still the best MC harem character out there. Except for Kenshin...
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2012-12-02, 09:50 | Link #139 |
Book Elitist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Nasuverse
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And speaking of harems... what about that guy from Clannad eh?? That guy was as bad as Kirito... We all know who he was gonna end up with but the story keeps on throwing girls at him even when the newer girls where a lot better.
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2012-12-02, 09:54 | Link #140 |
Pleased to Meet You
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Philippines
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Uh, Kirito. There is a reason it takes an army of players to beat the Grand Quest. Then again, he was consumed by emotion at the time.
Poor Sugu... Overall, it was quite enjoyable. *looks at end card*
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