2008-10-03, 00:29 | Link #3361 |
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Biden did a lot of puffs, or so it seemed. Since they didn't show his face a lot while Palin was talking, I assumed he was about to laugh or just feeling like slapping her (with his words of course)...In short, I think he held back a lot, in various ways. He also didn't seem as aggressive as usual. He was more like in a teaching mode for the most part of the night (and of course almost always targeting McCain, trying to teach Palin some unknowns about McCain). And, I think Palin tried to get away from the actual discussion (be it economy or something else) a lot of times (always going back to energy) so that even an ignorant watcher could have noticed the lack of knowledge there about her. McCain wasn't this apparent in his escapes.
There was not much she could have done. If she would have made Palin cry, her career based on objectiveness might have seen a downward turn, even it may not have been true. But, didn't similar things happen even in the previoud debate? Thanks to the aggressiveness of Obama and McCain (to find an opening on the other's answer, or past), the moderator's duty was somehow reduced to initiate the discussion instead of pursuing the points. Here, Palin's lack of aggressiveness made the moderator (and the format) look bad. |
2008-10-03, 00:33 | Link #3362 | |
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2008-10-03, 00:34 | Link #3363 | |
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2008-10-03, 00:36 | Link #3364 |
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Obama never cried about "Gotcha" questions when he was interviewed by O'rielly. Katie asked Biden some of the same questions she asked Palin and I don't see him crying about it. He didnt even bring Obama in to help him out too like how Palin brought McCain She can't expect every interviewer to be like Sean Hannity and just hump her leg. Reporters got to do their jobs.
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2008-10-03, 00:38 | Link #3365 |
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And, I think Obama campaign made this decision, to not be aggressive, as they got some clue about her from the Couric interview. Even if Biden wouldn't have taken that road and be aggressive, the best that Palin would have done is to make it seem like even. I don't think anyone thought she had any chance to win in the debate, and that was a fact made clear during the debate.
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2008-10-03, 02:34 | Link #3366 | |
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(I didn't actually see the debate to see how this ended as.) McCain is (Noun) (Verb) POW. |
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2008-10-03, 04:41 | Link #3368 | |
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This point (in fact Biden's entire answer) was considered by almost everyone (on Fox, CNN, or MSNBC) as the highlight of the night, and it was the point that won over many independent voters (at least from the CNN viewer response indicators, which received the highest numbers for this answer). Just to make a brief comment on those CNN indicators, it seems no one in Ohio (amongst the 33 democrats, republicans and independents) really responded to Palin's "folksy" mannerisms, since the indicators generally showed a disfavourable rating whenever she resorted to speaking in such a manner. |
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search: Obama "personal responsibility" = 490,000 hits search: McCain "personal responsibility" = 397,000 hits
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2008-10-03, 08:31 | Link #3372 | ||
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2008-10-03, 09:10 | Link #3373 |
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Its become an American tradition in the last two decades to Blame Anyone Else in some form of delusional self-denial.
However --- its not everyone. Some mitigating statistical analysis that goes beyond the 'average debt = $10K' soundbite. http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/...rts/P74808.asp Its overly optimistic .. .but then its MSNBC -- and their interests are corporate and status quo.
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2008-10-03, 13:26 | Link #3374 | |
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Well it is what it is, Palin in a push equals what amounts to a victory…I mean she totally lost the debate on substance and content, but she won the debate on the fact her head didn’t explode on national television…It’s indeed a sad state when just not being horrible basically gives you a “push”, but welcome to the USA where a Disney movie hockey-mom politician can win with her folksy hometown attitude, to hell with answering the questions...I mean she’s somebody “Just like you…” (As if I’ve ever seen any Sarah Palin’s growing up in the inner-city of New Orleans, Louisiana where I live), but I guess the same can be true about Biden (accept for the fact he actually sounds like someone I could trust with this country to a good extent and he’s not exactly selling his personality as all or nothing)…As for Gwen Ifill, her lack of any kind of seriousness or moderation (as it were), let Palin off of the hook and did the country at large a decent enuff disservice…But again this moment in time is just a snapshot and I doubt it will have any significant bearing, however just one day ago the entire election seemed to be doubt if Palin had just been as bad as she had been in every moment since her convention (A challenge from Ifill indeed would have revealed more, but we’ll never know)…
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2008-10-03, 14:59 | Link #3375 | |
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"An Unscripted Barack Obama Preaches Personal Responsibility In Texas" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhil...m_b_89127.html Cincinatti Crowd applauds Obama's call for personal responsibility http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...bama15.article "Barack Obama is telling Black people they need to take more “responsibility” for their lives." http://revcom.us/a/138/CD_personal_r...bility-en.html "And Democrats, we must also admit that fulfilling America's promise will require more than just money. It will require a renewed sense of responsibility from each of us to recover what John F. Kennedy called our "intellectual and moral strength." Yes, government must lead on energy independence, but each of us must do our part to make our homes and businesses more efficient. Yes, we must provide more ladders to success for young men who fall into lives of crime and despair. But we must also admit that programs alone can't replace parents; that government can't turn off the television and make a child do her homework; that fathers must take more responsibility for providing the love and guidance their children need." - Barack Obama, Democratic National Convention Pres. nomination acceptance speech Last edited by einhorn303; 2008-10-03 at 17:01. |
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2008-10-03, 16:24 | Link #3376 | |
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American politics sometimes reminds me of children fighting with each other, covering their ears during an argument screaming "naa naa, can't hear you".
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2008-10-03, 17:09 | Link #3377 |
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Too funny to pass out... Why is this woman still popular for the V.P ticket?
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2008-10-03, 20:34 | Link #3378 |
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Only in America, only in America. Spoiler for nsfw:
Republicans need to remove their republican hats and wear their American hats. Seriously this lady cant be one heartbeat away from the POTUS. lol oh man funny stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnFTatCpNO8 Last edited by Sassarai; 2008-10-04 at 01:08. |
2008-10-03, 21:01 | Link #3379 |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_131655.html
Of course it's annoying when you can't respond with talking points. |
2008-10-03, 22:09 | Link #3380 | |
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