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Oh i see, I'm not sure if there are nvidia driver packages for these distros. Ubuntu hardy has 3 packages:
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2008-10-13, 23:38 | Link #22 | ||
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All operating systems suck. Scratch that, all software sucks, and the only thing you can do to prevent that is make it suck less. Let's leave that clear and only then discuss operating systems. Lack of understanding of that point (which is something any developer worth its salt should know) gets you the stupidly fanboyish discussions in Slashdot, OSNews and the like.
Either way, I prefer any Linux based OS since FOSS has a lot of advantages that go beyond its quality... though I do believe that Linux has a lot of points where it's clearly stronger than Windows in design philosophy and performance. But overall I welcome anything that gives me choice. That's why I loathe Microsoft--it's not because of its OS (though it does suck at several levels, but it does many things right, too). It's because it created a market where there are no choices. Quote:
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2008-10-14, 04:34 | Link #23 |
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I doubt people care about the philosophical aspect, that's what I was pointing out. And I do believe that we were talking about desktop computers, I mean... I mentioned Vista, Vista is NOT a server/dev platform... I know devs and servers can make extensive use of Linux. I also said that it's not Linux's fault regarding the driver support, but it's still there.
The philosophical argument... When I want philosophy, I'll get philosophy, however I don't need philosophy on my pc, I need something that works as I want it to. Now IF that philosophy can also give me everything I need so much the better, but basing my main OS choice on philosophy to excuse its current limitations... nope, not my thing. Linux is nice for a secondary operating system, and I bet many casual Window users could easily have it as main, but dedicated gamers and multimedia people like me... not a chance. Multimedia and game support is a terrible joke as it is. Not Linux's fault, but it's there and I'm not about to sacrifice my PC needs for philosophy.
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2008-10-15, 03:08 | Link #27 |
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Just out of curiosity, where is amjzz (the original poster) since the thread was opened? The choice of the OS to use depends a lot on personal preference, the hardware being used, and to some extent and based on the purpose, ability, IMHO. If there is anything not widely supported involved, it would help to know that for making the suggestion, no?
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2008-10-15, 09:10 | Link #31 |
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There's no official MacOS ports for other hardware, but it can be done, since mac runs on Darwin, which is open source and POSIX compliant. Pretty easy to find bundles that contain all the drivers etc for most popular hardware, but ofc, it's it's against the Mac EULA. (Hint: if you hack a macintosh, what do you get?)
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2008-10-15, 21:38 | Link #33 |
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Mac OS X server can now run under VMWare virtualization, not that it really helps many people. Mac OS X likely will never be installable on any system, because Apple isn't a software company, but a hardware company. They use their software to drive sales of their platform, which includes their computers, iPods, and upcoming devices. As people like to say, there's a reason why they changed their company name from "Apple Computer" to just "Apple."
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Again, it's all subjective. What might be an advantage for you might not matter to me. And what I need or value in an OS might not matter to you. That's why, at the end of the day, OS choice is something that comes down to the person in question.
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2008-10-25, 09:55 | Link #36 | ||
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2008-10-27, 03:39 | Link #37 | |
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From a corporate standpoint what choice do you have? All your staff is windows trained, all your hardware is windows based, there's a severe shortage of qualified Linux technical support in most western countries. The lack of standardization is a massive issue from a staff training perspective. Most corporate environments can get away with a Linux based network but there's no way you could roll out Linux on an unsuspecting workforce and expect not to take a massive hit in productivity. (I can see the most common thing asked "where's my start button" and other similar level questions) And we seem to forget open Source isn't just linux and it's derivatives. Audacity, Firefox, Thunderbird Open Office are all open source available on windows. It's not like Linux has the market cornered on open source. Demonising M$ isn't doing Linux any good either. They just have to compete and refine the product (which at the end of the day is all it is). It's still too alien to the consumer. case in point the return rates for linux based netbooks (the eee I think from an article I read recently)which is triple that of the xp version - main cause stated it was too foreign to them. Now this is a very very basic system were talking about too. Personally I think Linux needs to get it together as a package - training, support and the product. Not every one knew Windows use pre 1995, but all of a sudden training was everywhere. Every one felt confident in the day to day use. I look around for a Linux course and I have a total of 0. A lot of websites but no standardized approach. The documentation can be hit or miss.
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2008-10-27, 06:58 | Link #38 |
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I believe it's impossible for open source software, by simple nature, to "get it together as a package". OSS is what the development community wants it to be. And, for OSS, the more users it has, the bigger the development community will be--always. The latter isn't necessarily true for closed source software.
But of course, everything boils down to choice. What matters to me is not that people don't use Linux, it's that people don't choose Windows, either. They just see the PC as a toaster (an appliance) and feed their money to Microsoft when they could simply be using other equally (or more) competent free and open alternatives... which I'm sure many would choose if they gave the matter a simple thought. But most people don't... and Microsoft leverages that.
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