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aohige · 2013-06-02, 15:19

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Well the laws of matter states that you cannot create or destroy it.

Eren literally was creating a massive 50 feet monster out of thin air, muscles and bones to kick as well. That falls under alchemy or magic at the very least. Also he needed pain in order to achieve the transformation which is almost like a "blood offering".

That and during the transformation we see flashes of lighting too.

ON that matter I wonder how long it'll take for them to reach his dad's basement now.

Well you see, he has a mini-nuclear fusion reactor inside of him, creating massive amounts of energy, as well as a energy-matter converter that can solidify that massive amount of ene....... nevermind, I'm just talking out of my ass.

chaos_alfa · 2013-06-02, 15:21

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Originally Posted by aohige

Well you see, he has a mini-nuclear fusion reactor inside of him, creating massive amounts of energy, as well as a energy-matter converter that can solidify that massive amount of ene....... nevermind, I'm just talking out of my ass.

It would be cool at least

askara · 2013-06-02, 16:15

Attack on Giant really know how to end an episode, every episode ending feels epic ,gloommy and exciting and still leave a cliffhanger.

Next episode they should make a full Armour in style of gundam for Eren titan form, combine with that green eye we saw in this episode it will be badass XD.

and why is people questioning about the science of the transformation now? i mean there are lots of thing that cant be possible IRL and scientifically impossible, like the 3D gear and the way they move, why doest giant collapse by their own weight? how can giant survive with no food, why they disappear when they die and how did giant titan and Armour titan suddenly appear etc. best to think of it as magic i mean this show never even try explain anything with law of science anyway.

Jan-Poo · 2013-06-02, 16:33

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Originally Posted by askara

i mean there are lots of thing that cant be possible IRL and scientifically impossible, like the 3D gear and the way they move, why doest giant collapse by their own weight?

This isn't a matter of plausibility.
Most sci-fi stories aren't any more plausible than your average fantasy, but the point is that storywise what happens is supposed to follow physical laws and not magical theories.

The question of whether in the SnK universe "magic" exists or not is an interesting one in my opinion.
The 3D gear that you mentioned for example is implausible as a working device, however most of its parts and the principles under which it works are explained in details. Therefore this tells us that there is no magic involved. Whether it is plausible or not the author gives a non-supernatural explanation for that.

Now what remains is to understand whether the titans will be explained as a scientific phenomenon or as a magical one.

askara · 2013-06-02, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

This isn't a matter of plausibility.
Most sci-fi stories aren't any more plausible than your average fantasy, but the point is that storywise what happens is supposed to follow physical laws and not magical theories.

The question of whether in the SnK universe "magic" exists or not is an interesting one in my opinion.
The 3D gear that you mentioned for example is implausible as a working device, however most of its parts and the principles under which it works are explained in details. Therefore this tells us that there is no magic involved. Whether it is plausible or not the author gives a non-supernatural explanation for that.

Now what remains is to understand whether the titans will be explained as a scientific phenomenon or as a magical one.

i agree with what you saying but my point is we already seen Giant disappearing upon death and sudden appearing so we cant just suddenly call bullshit on Eren's transformation and the writer will explain it in due time.

aohige · 2013-06-02, 16:47

bah. baaaaaaaaaaaah.

According to MADBOX twitters, we may get a recap episode some time soon. Meh.

Reading the tweets, looks like they're hoping the break will unload the mad workload the animators put in every week.

takai · 2013-06-02, 16:56

I have a feeling that every episode is going to start with an unnecessary recap now.

Finally, they introduce a character that actually kicks ass besides Mikasa.

That whole standoff scene drug out too much.

Glad they showed how Eren got out of that titan. And how he knows how to change into that form at will.

Decent episode. 6/10.

Avrorrange · 2013-06-02, 17:03

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Originally Posted by takai

I have a feeling that every episode is going to start with an unnecessary recap now.

Finally, they introduce a character that actually kicks ass besides Mikasa.

That whole standoff scene drug out too much.

Glad they showed how Eren got out of that titan. And how he knows how to change into that form at will.

Decent episode. 6/10.

Wow, you give a 'decent' episode only 6/10? So why doesn't it deserve higher?

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2013-06-02, 17:33

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Originally Posted by askara

and why is people questioning about the science of the transformation now? i mean there are lots of thing that cant be possible IRL and scientifically impossible, like the 3D gear and the way they move, why doest giant collapse by their own weight? how can giant survive with no food, why they disappear when they die and how did giant titan and Armour titan suddenly appear etc. best to think of it as magic i mean this show never even try explain anything with law of science anyway.

I think I’m the one who first question about the transformation. And like Jan-Poo said, I’m not asking about the plausibility of the transformation, but whether it’s in the “sci-fi” category or “magic” category. So, if you consider the transformation as magic, then we have the same point. Nothing to argue.

As for the 3D gear, see my post about what’s sci-fi and what’s magic:

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

IMO the difference between sci-fi and magic is: sci-fi at least has "technological excuse" (eg Star Trek's teleportation device, Star Wars' hyper-drive, Gundam's Psychommu System, etc), while magic has no "technological excuse" and it just happens/there (eg. Naruto's chakra, Hunter x Hunter's nen, Saint Seiya's cosmo, Bleach's reiatsu, etc)

By that definition above, I always consider Titans as giant-walking magical beings no different from Romero's zombies.

Archon_Wing · 2013-06-02, 18:23

Not much happened, but I guess that bored guy was cool, and Mari-clone was ok, though I also drew that unfortunate notion.

The best was of course when Mikasa invited everyone to have a taste of her blade speciality in slicing up flesh. Sure everyone's scared shitless and isn't thinking straight, but that sure put them back in line!

Mairsile · 2013-06-02, 19:05

It seemed my hunch that Eren comes from a line of cabalists/alchemists isn't too off with this latest episode. I figured he'd require a medium or sort to make use of his power - and that medium is his blood.

My only remaining questions are:

1. Where is Eren's dad now?
2. What exactly does Eren's dad know about all of this? My guess he was researching or dabbling in the sort of alchemy that involves Eren.
3. Who is ordering the Titans to attack? Do they know Eren's father? My guess is yes.
4. Why are they sending the Titans to attack? Does it have to do with whatever secrets are locked away inside the basement? My guess is yes.

kenjiharima · 2013-06-02, 19:27

Excellent episode, doesn't explain alot, which is a good part of the mystery that keeps me wanna watch this before I read the manga.

Also there was a gender issue on one of the characters here? Hmm...

darklegends8 · 2013-06-02, 19:33

Hanji my favorite character, I'm glad they did her well in the anime

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-06-02, 21:47

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Also there was a gender issue on one of the characters here? Hmm...

No there isn't. Apparently the author got insulted by an interviewer who can't make out out Hanji's gender. The author went vague on the interviewer.

In one of the illustrations Hanji wears a skirt. That answers the question.

Jan-Poo · 2013-06-02, 21:55

There is nothing that suggests that the question was offensive or that the author felt insulted by it. That's just a very imaginative interpretation from a blogger.

kitten320 · 2013-06-02, 23:09

Well... looks like Eren will have lots of trouble to fit with humanity now.

kenjiharima · 2013-06-03, 00:14

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Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

No there isn't. Apparently the author got insulted by an interviewer who can't make out out Hanji's gender. The author went vague on the interviewer.

In one of the illustrations Hanji wears a skirt. That answers the question.

I see. I thought there was another trap/reverse trap going on in the anime.

Gohan78 · 2013-06-03, 03:11

Honestly Isayama is not a great artist.
When Ymir appeared, for a long time I thought she was a guy. However I never had this problem with Hanji: I immediately recognized her as a girl. I think the confusion comes from the fact that she uses a masculine speech.

larethian · 2013-06-03, 03:23

Maybe being vague was a strategic decision to bring in the fujoshis = more sales?

Unknown Soldier · 2013-06-03, 05:35

The last time I watched a show directed by Tetsuro Araki, halfway through I got tired of waiting a week between episodes and I ended up reading all the available Highschool of the Dead manga material in one day.

There's a lot more material for Attack on Titan, so I doubt I would finish in a day. But I'm getting real irritated with one episode a week here.

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aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	bah. baaaaaaaaaaaah. According to MADBOX twitters, we may get a recap episode some time soon. Meh. Reading the tweets, looks like they're hoping the break will unload the mad workload the animators put in every week. __________________

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Mairsile Athletic girls are sugoi! Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Age: 47	It seemed my hunch that Eren comes from a line of cabalists/alchemists isn't too off with this latest episode. I figured he'd require a medium or sort to make use of his power - and that medium is his blood. My only remaining questions are: 1. Where is Eren's dad now? 2. What exactly does Eren's dad know about all of this? My guess he was researching or dabbling in the sort of alchemy that involves Eren. 3. Who is ordering the Titans to attack? Do they know Eren's father? My guess is yes. 4. Why are they sending the Titans to attack? Does it have to do with whatever secrets are locked away inside the basement? My guess is yes. __________________ "You're a gentleman; However, being only that is useless."

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kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Excellent episode, doesn't explain alot, which is a good part of the mystery that keeps me wanna watch this before I read the manga. Also there was a gender issue on one of the characters here? Hmm... __________________ Vampire+Sisters

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	There is nothing that suggests that the question was offensive or that the author felt insulted by it. That's just a very imaginative interpretation from a blogger. __________________

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askara Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012	Attack on Giant really know how to end an episode, every episode ending feels epic ,gloommy and exciting and still leave a cliffhanger. Next episode they should make a full Armour in style of gundam for Eren titan form, combine with that green eye we saw in this episode it will be badass XD. and why is people questioning about the science of the transformation now? i mean there are lots of thing that cant be possible IRL and scientifically impossible, like the 3D gear and the way they move, why doest giant collapse by their own weight? how can giant survive with no food, why they disappear when they die and how did giant titan and Armour titan suddenly appear etc. best to think of it as magic i mean this show never even try explain anything with law of science anyway.

2013-06-02, 16:56	Link #147
takai Easy Muffin Join Date: Jan 2013 Age: 31	I have a feeling that every episode is going to start with an unnecessary recap now. Finally, they introduce a character that actually kicks ass besides Mikasa. That whole standoff scene drug out too much. Glad they showed how Eren got out of that titan. And how he knows how to change into that form at will. Decent episode. 6/10.

2013-06-02, 19:33	Link #153
darklegends8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2013	Hanji my favorite character, I'm glad they did her well in the anime

2013-06-02, 23:09	Link #156
kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Well... looks like Eren will have lots of trouble to fit with humanity now. __________________ My anime list

2013-06-03, 03:11	Link #158
Gohan78 Awakened One Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Northern Italy	Honestly Isayama is not a great artist. When Ymir appeared, for a long time I thought she was a guy. However I never had this problem with Hanji: I immediately recognized her as a girl. I think the confusion comes from the fact that she uses a masculine speech. __________________ Tibi, magnum Innominandum, signa stellarum nigrarum et bufaniformis Sadoquae sigilim. (De Vermis Mysteriis)

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larethian Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Maybe being vague was a strategic decision to bring in the fujoshis = more sales?

2013-06-03, 05:35	Link #160
Unknown Soldier :D Join Date: May 2009	The last time I watched a show directed by Tetsuro Araki, halfway through I got tired of waiting a week between episodes and I ended up reading all the available Highschool of the Dead manga material in one day. There's a lot more material for Attack on Titan, so I doubt I would finish in a day. But I'm getting real irritated with one episode a week here.