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Destined_Fate · 2012-09-14, 05:02

Wouldn't it be better served that they show it almost last to have those like you stay on with the hope of seeing it soon?

susyia · 2012-09-14, 05:57

what love triangle?

RRW · 2012-09-14, 06:03

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Originally Posted by susyia

what love triangle?

you serious?

becouse i am surprised that there is person that doesn't know love triangle.

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-14, 06:29

I think what he meant was who's in the Love Triangle?

IkuzeMinna · 2012-09-14, 10:28

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Some more DDR piloting, a love triangle, another 2+ years of waiting for new gundam lineart, sprinkled with a ton of "WTF!?!" and served with a healthy side of "and his/her tears were already frozen..."

*head bang against desk*

...Ugh. Anything but that. But you know, the best part about Deacon's summaries is that I don't have to read this wretched line.

To add to the predictions: more random relations to unimportant side characters (half of them being retconned to fit those), made up people and places that have always been there and are apparently important yet no one ever mentioned in the series, all delivered in a grand package of piffling flashbacks. Because I'm sure we haven't seen the last of them. Of course there will be more Catherines and magic nanomachines as well. Wouldn't be FT without them!

At the very least we'll get pretty artwork. I believe this is the major reason most of us are still paying attention to FT. After all, a suit piloted by Heero has to look pretty dang awesome if it's called "Snow White." ...hopefully.

On a more serious note, do you folks think the next volume of FT will reveal another suit? Perhaps Scheherazade?

Oh and susyia, thanks again for the links to this "Special Operation." Cracked up pretty hard at the guys thinking Quatre was a girl and him going Zero on them afterward. xD

Elo the Blue · 2012-09-14, 12:00

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On a more serious note, do you folks think the next volume of FT will reveal another suit? Perhaps Scheherazade?

I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal another suit. But Sumizawa has been known to disappoint. The artwork of new characters (even the ones that look ridiculously like old ones) has been nice though.

Eeni · 2012-09-14, 14:18

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Originally Posted by susyia

what love triangle?

Oud Winner, Troawa Phobos, and Milou Peacecraft

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At the very least we'll get pretty artwork. I believe this is the major reason most of us are still paying attention to FT. After all, a suit piloted by Heero has to look pretty dang awesome if it's called "Snow White." ...hopefully.

Nope. I'm just here so I can know what I'm making fun of. I gave up on FT after reading the Prologue

susyia · 2012-09-14, 14:57

ah this love triangle..... i completly forgot them......i like more preventer 5 than the rest....
IkuzeMinna can you understand what they sayng? i don't understand japanese but is funny hearing their voices
oh boy poor quatre even the authors make fun of him .... i'm the only one who think quatre is manly in his way

LadyRelena · 2012-09-16, 04:46

Okay, I've been somewhat confused for the last year and a half about FT. I was under the impression that this novel was just an experiment to see if the creator could milk a dead sires. However, I've been seeing FT stuff popping up in lots of places and it seems to be gaining in popularity somewhat. I'm starting to suspect that it may be - dare I say - "actual cannon" in the GW universe. Was I wrong to think experimental fanfiction =/= official squeal? I sincerely hope we can disregard this as canon to GW.

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-16, 06:03

I just want to see what the rest of the Gundams look like since the story isn't really that appealing.

Deacon Blues · 2012-09-16, 08:50

I've solved the problem with Frozen Teardrop and the Relena and Heero issues.

Blame everything on Zechs. He shot down Heero thus leading to the fateful encounter with Relena!

Destined_Fate · 2012-09-16, 09:27

Wouldn't you have to blame the guys that gave him the means to do that though? So basically it's all the fault of the first caveman and woman. Had they not got it on and evolved there would be no FT.

susyia · 2012-09-16, 11:26

i blame sumisawa .....

IkuzeMinna · 2012-09-16, 18:41

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Nope. I'm just here so I can know what I'm making fun of. I gave up on FT after reading the Prologue

I really like you, you know that.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they reveal another suit. But Sumizawa has been known to disappoint. The artwork of new characters (even the ones that look ridiculously like old ones) has been nice though.

Certainly. But that was one odd revealing, wasn't it? After teasing us with cloaked Jedi suits for a good year, we get one on a volume cover, and Prometheus of all suits... I get the feeling he chose that one because it's still incomplete at this point so he can still spring the final version on us.

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oh boy poor quatre even the authors make fun of him .... i'm the only one who think quatre is manly in his way

Quatre is manly, he's simply gentle-manly. When he's not blasting colonies with Wing Zero, that is.

Japan aside, I guess people just have kneejerk reactions when it comes to a man showing his tears and wearing a pink shirt. Though I must be an oddball because Quatre's shirt and vest, heck, his outfit in general reminds me more of rich people, who play tennis and wear sweaters tied around their necks, than homosexuals. *shrug*
And I think the authors made fun of him having 29 sisters rather than his mannerisms.

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Okay, I've been somewhat confused for the last year and a half about FT. I was under the impression that this novel was just an experiment to see if the creator could milk a dead series. However, I've been seeing FT stuff popping up in lots of places and it seems to be gaining in popularity somewhat. I'm starting to suspect that it may be - dare I say - "actual canon" in the GW universe. Was I wrong to think experimental fanfiction =/= official sequel? I sincerely hope we can disregard this as canon to GW.

If you wish to disregard it, then do so. Even if it were to be animated and set in stone that this is GW's continuation, you can still say you're a fan of the former but not the latter. I really see no problem with that. It's your personal preference.
As of now, FT may hold more credentials than other additions to the GW universe since it's written by the head writer (as hard as it is to believe that) but for Bandai/Sunrise it's not canon as long as it's not animated.
And to be honest, I'm not sure if FT is really that popular. Most of the West probably doesn't even know about it still and after an initial bout of Heero battle-nun pics, Pixiv doesn't seem too flooded either. I could of course be mistaken but thinking back on how entire shelves were dedicated to only 1x2 yaoi doujin (which Garfield only knows came from, since the show never dropped so much as a hint toward that), FT seems to be doing modestly in comparison.
Personally, I'm interested to know if the people who buy the books are GW fans or just casual readers. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think your understanding of the novel won't suffer much if you haven't watched the series. Who knows, it might even make it easier.

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So basically it's all the fault of the first caveman and woman. Had they not got it on and evolved there would be no FT.

Just as there would be no GW. Let's not go that far, shall we? Just smack the guy who prints this.

DuoRanger · 2012-09-16, 20:56

well here's a joke resume about the Wing5 relationships

Spoiler:

FalsePrime · 2012-09-16, 21:45

I can't say I've really noticed Frozen Teardrop gaining traction, I do think that Early Types are getting more and more popular though.

As it stands Endless Waltz designs, Wing Zero EW in particular have always been much more popular then the TV versions, but that didn't apply to the early types. However since Frozen Teardrop, Glory, and the MG's I really do think that Early Types have caught up and maybe even taken over for Wing/Scythe/Rock/Arms/Shenlong.

Wether Frozen Teardrop will end up being popular will likely depend on the ending, even Unicorn was met with alot of resistance in the early stages. Thing is even if the writing was amazing (it's not) the format and presentatiion has been uniformly bad. The skipping has made it so the story has almost no flow or full on progression and it's really bad that even if you follow it you realize that we have actually had very little time pass since the start of the Novel and where the characters are in "present" time.

I don't think Frozen Teardrop has any chance at a Unicorn level of Success, I do think however it has a shot to do better/become more popular then we few are giving it credit for if they can pull of some truly amazing suit designs and the story picks up in a major way now that Preventer 5 is over.

Not all that interested in it, but that doesn't mean others might not be. Hated OO and SEED Destiny and people loved the hell out of them.

Eeni · 2012-09-17, 03:39

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Originally Posted by Deacon Blues

I've solved the problem with Frozen Teardrop and the Relena and Heero issues.

Blame everything on Zechs. He shot down Heero thus leading to the fateful encounter with Relena!

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i blame sumisawa .....

I blame Odin Lowe, if he hadn't had killed the original Heero Yuy, none of the story would have happened. It's also nice to blame Sumizawa, but we can't forget to blame whomever it was at ACE that allowed this script not only to see the light of day but be published!

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I really like you, you know that.

OMG! I have an internet stalker! I need to change my name and address now! I need a responsible adult!

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Wether Frozen Teardrop will end up being popular will likely depend on the ending, even Unicorn was met with alot of resistance in the early stages. Thing is even if the writing was amazing (it's not) the format and presentatiion has been uniformly bad. The skipping has made it so the story has almost no flow or full on progression and it's really bad that even if you follow it you realize that we have actually had very little time pass since the start of the Novel and where the characters are in "present" time.

I don't think Frozen Teardrop has any chance at a Unicorn level of Success, I do think however it has a shot to do better/become more popular then we few are giving it credit for if they can pull of some truly amazing suit designs and the story picks up in a major way now that Preventer 5 is over.

Not all that interested in it, but that doesn't mean others might not be. Hated OO and SEED Destiny and people loved the hell out of them.

I disagree. The suits and pretty drawings can be as great as you want, but if the story sucks balls then you're not getting many fans. And so far, this story has been lackluster, highly confusing, and hilariously ridiculous along the way (I still giggle at cross dressing Dok S, brings a tear to my eye every time).

FalsePrime · 2012-09-17, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Eeni

I blame Odin Lowe, if he hadn't had killed the original Heero Yuy, none of the story would have happened. It's also nice to blame Sumizawa, but we can't forget to blame whomever it was at ACE that allowed this script not only to see the light of day but be published!

OMG! I have an internet stalker! I need to change my name and address now! I need a responsible adult!

I disagree. The suits and pretty drawings can be as great as you want, but if the story sucks balls then you're not getting many fans. And so far, this story has been lackluster, highly confusing, and hilariously ridiculous along the way (I still giggle at cross dressing Dok S, brings a tear to my eye every time).

In my mind you just discribed SEED Destiny as well. Lets not forget that while SEED Destiny has alot of haters even in Japan it is also hugely popular yet the story is even worse then Frozen Teardops and the characters are some of the worst this meta verse has ever had.

Se7en Sabers · 2012-09-18, 00:15

I didn't read any Frozen Tear's novels but can someone summaries the story ?

LadyRelena · 2012-09-18, 01:42

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Originally Posted by IkuzeMinna

If you wish to disregard it, then do so. Even if it were to be animated and set in stone that this is GW's continuation, you can still say you're a fan of the former but not the latter. I really see no problem with that. It's your personal preference.
As of now, FT may hold more credentials than other additions to the GW universe since it's written by the head writer (as hard as it is to believe that) but for Bandai/Sunrise it's not canon as long as it's not animated.
And to be honest, I'm not sure if FT is really that popular. Most of the West probably doesn't even know about it still and after an initial bout of Heero battle-nun pics, Pixiv doesn't seem too flooded either. I could of course be mistaken but thinking back on how entire shelves were dedicated to only 1x2 yaoi doujin (which Garfield only knows came from, since the show never dropped so much as a hint toward that), FT seems to be doing modestly in comparison.
Personally, I'm interested to know if the people who buy the books are GW fans or just casual readers. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think your understanding of the novel won't suffer much if you haven't watched the series. Who knows, it might even make it easier.

Well, the only reason FT's officiality bothers me is because I don't want this sires to end up like George Lucas and his Star Wars fiasco. If FT were made official tomorrow, we're basically being forced by the creators to see this story as true in the universe; meaning both GW and FT would be equally valid as if one were just a seamless extension of the other. When creators of media try to shove that sort of crap down the collective throats of their fans, not only does it poison the proverbial well for the sires and it's entirety, but it insults our intelligence in the process.

Also, my fear is, if Frozen Teardrop gains enough of a fanbase behind it, it's canonization could come to fruition. And that angers me for the reasons stated above.

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how entire shelves were dedicated to only 1x2 yaoi doujin (which Garfield only knows came from, since the show never dropped so much as a hint toward that)

I know I'm going off topic here but you have no idea how reassuring it makes me feel that someone else sees how utterly crack 1x2 really are. When I started seeing doujinshi of them popping up everywhere in the 90's, the first thing I said to myself was "Where the fuck did this come from?"

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LadyRelena Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Okay, I've been somewhat confused for the last year and a half about FT. I was under the impression that this novel was just an experiment to see if the creator could milk a dead sires. However, I've been seeing FT stuff popping up in lots of places and it seems to be gaining in popularity somewhat. I'm starting to suspect that it may be - dare I say - "actual cannon" in the GW universe. Was I wrong to think experimental fanfiction =/= official squeal? I sincerely hope we can disregard this as canon to GW. __________________ Last edited by LadyRelena; 2012-09-16 at 05:04.

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Deacon Blues Supreme Grocer Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico	I've solved the problem with Frozen Teardrop and the Relena and Heero issues. Blame everything on Zechs. He shot down Heero thus leading to the fateful encounter with Relena! __________________ 「では、人間は、何故、戦うのか？戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。戦っている人間には充実感がある。そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」 So why do people fight, anyway? Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight. People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle. And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.

2012-09-16, 20:56	Link #4875
DuoRanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: who knows?	well here's a joke resume about the Wing5 relationships Spoiler: i still can't belive that ars forum still exists From: Antonio E. Gonzalez (antegm111@aol.complex) Subject: [Semi-Repost] Fun with "Gundam" Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime.misc View complete thread (6 articles) Date: 2001-07-24 15:58:46 PST Since the Gundam universe(s) have become the thing again, I guess it's my obligation to post this little gem that I saw on alt.fan.sailor-moon a couple of months back: I've had this idea for a while now, and reading that "Gundam Wing...Explained!" article finally got me off my butt and made me write it. Some of the jokes may require having seen the series multiple times through, but hopefully everyone here who likes Gundam will enjoy it. -- Looking for some love in your life? Tired of surviving a war-torn world all by yourself? Are you in need of a lover in your arms as you take up arms against whatever tyrannical regime happens to be in power? Do you find it difficult to find a decent singles scene when your nation's borders change every other day? Well you're not alone. And the United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance is here to help! Using the ZERO Compatibility Analysis System, we're able to input data and pinpoint a sure match with astounding accuracy and a waiting period of just twenty-four hours! By applying to us, you could go from lonesome Friday night to first date to honeymoon by the time world leadership changes hands! It's that fast! Don't believe us? Let's examine some randomly selected applicants as they first meet and then check in on their progress with our exclusive Feedback Call-in service. Please note that names have been altered to protect these young lovers' identities. ----- "DUO" and "HEIDI" ["Duo" waits impatiently in the lobby, flipping through an issue of _Mortician's Monthly_ and wagging his knees back and forth. "Heidi" enters, and "Duo" stands and shakes her hand.] "DUO": "Wow, it's great to finally meet you. That twenty-four hour waiting period seemed like FOREVER!" "HEIDI": "Yeah, I know what you mean. So, what did you have planned for tonight?" "DUO": "First I thought we'd go to a concert, then try that new ride at the carnival, then play some laser tag, then hijack some mobile suits and go cruising around in space for a bit, then--" "HEIDI": "Wow, you sound like a pretty intense guy." "DUO": [smirks] "Thanks. And, if it's all right with you, I'd like to stop by the cemetery on the way back." "HEIDI": "Oh, okay. Do you have family there?" "DUO": "No." ... --FEEDBACK CALL-IN-- "Hi, United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance? This is 'Heidi.' You set me up with a guy named 'Duo.' I just wanted to say that seeing him has been one of the worst mistakes of my life! Sure, it started out fun. A little partying, a little crime, a lot of jail-time and just as much breaking out. But after a few days, all he ever did was order me to buy his groceries! Soon enough I was stuck looking after his junkyard of a home while HE went off doing interesting rebellion things! Ugh! What a selfish, self-righteous jerk! Where do you find these guys?!" --- "TROWA" and "KATIE" ["Trowa" sits in the lobby, staring at the wall. "Katie" comes out, but "Trowa" doesn't react.] "KATIE": "Hi, 'Trowa'? It's me, 'Katie.' Are you ready to go?" "TROWA": "All right." "KATIE": "So, where do you wanna go?" "TROWA": "I don't care." "KATIE": "Oh.... Why don't we go and get some dinner? I'm starving!" "TROWA": "All right." "KATIE": "Great. Where do you wanna eat?" "TROWA": "I don't care." "KATIE": "...I see.... Well, we can figure that out when we go. Then, after that, what do you say we go see a movie? That new one about hacker terrorists looks really good, and I hear it's written entirely in BASIC." "TROWA": "All right." "KATIE": "...Do you want to go see it?" "TROWA": "I don't care." ["Katie" sighs and leaves, then comes back in a minute to drag "Trowa" with her.] ... --FEEDBACK CALL-IN-- "Hi, United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance? This is 'Katie.' I'm calling about a guy that you set me up with, 'Trowa.' Well, once I finally managed to get more than three-word sentences out of him, our date went along pretty decently. Eventually, one thing led to another...[clears throat]...and, uh, I wanted to call out his name, you know? But, since he barely said anything all night long, I couldn't remember it. So I asked him, 'Hey, by the way, what's your name again?' And he said, 'I have no name.' What does that MEAN? Where do you find these guys?!" --- "HEERO" and "ROLANDA" ["Heero" sits immobile in the waiting room. When "Rolanda" emerges, his expression immediately changes to amazement. He looks Rolanda over for a moment, then rushes to her.] "HEERO": "Hi! I'm 'Heero.' Please tell me you're 'Rolanda'?" "ROLANDA": [smiles] "Yep. That's me." "HEERO": [smiles back] "Good, good. So, what did you wanna do tonight?" "ROLANDA": "Hmm.... Well, there's a new exhibit at the museum, "The Most Fragile Mobile Suit In Existence," that I really want to go see. They say if the air-lock seal failed, the entire thing would explode! But if that sounds boring, we can always go dancing. I know an absolutely WONDERFUL club, and there are rarely ever any skanks or perverts there--just a couple of brown-nosers occasionally--so it should be a blast. What do you think?" "HEERO": "It all sounds fun. Let's go right away!" ["Heero" opens the door and lets "Rolanda" exit.] "HEERO": "Wow, what a wonderful girl! She's beautiful, and she seems smart and interested in the same things I am. And she seems so fun to be around! She makes Relena look like that little girl's dead dog! Man, did I luck out or what?!" [pulls out a gun and cocks it] "I'm gonna kill her." ... --FEEDBACK CALL-IN-- "This is 'Heero Yuy.' Mission complete." --- "QUATRE" and "TRICIA" ["Quatre" paces the lobby nervously. When he first sees "Tricia," he looks down with disappointment.] "TRICIA": "Hi, 'Quatre'? I'm 'Tricia.' Ready to go?" "QUATRE": "...Oh, uh, hi.... Um...aw crap, they made a mistake." "TRICIA": "What? What's wrong?" ["Quatre" signals for her to wait and looks through a filing cabinet behind the main desk, pulling out his application. He sighs, puts it back, and turns to "Tricia."] "QUATRE": "I was right. They messed up." "TRICIA": "What are you talking about?" [looks insecure] "QUATRE": [sighs] "Nothing, nevermind. Come on, let's go get some tea." ... --FEEDBACK CALL-IN-- [panicked breathing] "United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance? This is 'Tricia.' That guy 'Quatre' you set me up with is a maniac! Everything started out normal, but I could tell he wasn't happy about something, though he wouldn't say what. We ended up at his place, pretty far out in the desert, and since it was getting late he offered to let me stay the night. I accepted and went to sleep in the guest room. Then, in the middle of the night, I woke up and found that he'd cut my hair so that the back is really short and the bangs stick out really far! He had tied me to the bedposts, and he sat in the corner of the room, rocking back and forth and calling me 'Trowa.' I screamed, and a big burly guy came and rescued me, apologizing for his 'master' and offering me a hundred grand to keep quiet about his 'problems.' Boy, you can be sure I'm never going to a desert again! I mean, he didn't hurt me or anything, but my beautiful hair! It'll take years to grow back to normal!" [whimpering] "Where do you find these guys?!" --- "WUFEI" and "ALLY" ["Wufei" polishes his sword in the waiting room. "Ally" enters, but "Wufei" barely looks up.] "ALLY": "Hi, I'm 'Ally.' Ready to go?" "WUFEI": "Woman, don't start with me." "ALLY": "Huh? I just wanted to know if you were ready." "WUFEI": "You'll KNOW when I'm ready." "ALLY": "All right...." [sits down beside "Wufei"] "WUFEI": [jumps up] "Woman, don't get so close to me!" "ALLY": "Oh, I'm sorry." "WUFEI": [sighs] "All right, let's get this over with. Come!" "ALLY": "Oh, good. You know, I've really been looking forward to this. I--" "WUFEI": "Don't talk so much!" "ALLY": "Okay, sorry.... So, what are we doing tonight?" "WUFEI": "Well I was planning on changing the oil in Nataku. That should last us all night." "ALLY": "...Great...." ... --FEEDBACK CALL-IN-- "Hi, United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance? This is 'Ally.' I'm calling about the guy you matched me with, 'Wufei.' I just have one thing to say to you people: THANK YOU SO MUCH! Oh, he is just the sweetest man! I can't believe that I've ever put up with anyone else! All the other guys I've dated have been such jerks! It's so refreshing to find a man who truly cares. Oh, I can't thank you enough!" [in the background] "Woman! Get off the phone!" "In a minute, Wu-fee!" [in the background] "STOP CALLING ME WU-FEE!!!" "Hee hee! Isn't he a sweetheart? Well, I suppose I won't keep him waiting any longer. Just wanted to call and say thanks! Where do you find these guys?! Make sure to find some more!" ----- Convinced yet? With the United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance, you have a one in five chance of finding your perfect match!* Compare that with other dating services, and you'll see why you can't go wrong with us! So come on down to the United Earth-sphere Dating Alliance, or apply over the phone or online. We guarantee you won't regret it!** (disclaimer: chances are equally good that you will be murdered. united earth-sphere dating alliance makes no guarantee or warranty of any kind and waives all liability of physical or psychological harm. use our service at your own risk.) *(not a guarantee.) ----- NOTICE: "HEERO YUY" IS STILL AT LARGE. IF YOU COME IN CONTACT WITH HIM OR HAVE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING HIS WHEREABOUTS, CONTACT YOUR LOCAL MILITARY OUTPOST IMMEDIATELY. POSSIBLE ALIASES UNDER WHICH HE COULD BE OPERATING ARE "DUO MAXWELL" AND "ROGER." -- Jesse Douglas tdouglas@erols.com - Vaughner

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Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Wouldn't it be better served that they show it almost last to have those like you stay on with the hope of seeing it soon?

2012-09-14, 05:57	Link #4862
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	what love triangle?

2012-09-14, 06:29	Link #4864
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	I think what he meant was who's in the Love Triangle?

2012-09-14, 14:57	Link #4868
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	ah this love triangle..... i completly forgot them......i like more preventer 5 than the rest.... IkuzeMinna can you understand what they sayng? i don't understand japanese but is funny hearing their voices oh boy poor quatre even the authors make fun of him .... i'm the only one who think quatre is manly in his way

2012-09-16, 06:03	Link #4870
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	I just want to see what the rest of the Gundams look like since the story isn't really that appealing.

2012-09-16, 09:27	Link #4872
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Wouldn't you have to blame the guys that gave him the means to do that though? So basically it's all the fault of the first caveman and woman. Had they not got it on and evolved there would be no FT.

2012-09-16, 11:26	Link #4873
susyia Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Brazil	i blame sumisawa .....

2012-09-16, 21:45	Link #4876
FalsePrime Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	I can't say I've really noticed Frozen Teardrop gaining traction, I do think that Early Types are getting more and more popular though. As it stands Endless Waltz designs, Wing Zero EW in particular have always been much more popular then the TV versions, but that didn't apply to the early types. However since Frozen Teardrop, Glory, and the MG's I really do think that Early Types have caught up and maybe even taken over for Wing/Scythe/Rock/Arms/Shenlong. Wether Frozen Teardrop will end up being popular will likely depend on the ending, even Unicorn was met with alot of resistance in the early stages. Thing is even if the writing was amazing (it's not) the format and presentatiion has been uniformly bad. The skipping has made it so the story has almost no flow or full on progression and it's really bad that even if you follow it you realize that we have actually had very little time pass since the start of the Novel and where the characters are in "present" time. I don't think Frozen Teardrop has any chance at a Unicorn level of Success, I do think however it has a shot to do better/become more popular then we few are giving it credit for if they can pull of some truly amazing suit designs and the story picks up in a major way now that Preventer 5 is over. Not all that interested in it, but that doesn't mean others might not be. Hated OO and SEED Destiny and people loved the hell out of them.

2012-09-18, 00:15	Link #4879
Se7en Sabers Member Join Date: Jan 2011	I didn't read any Frozen Tear's novels but can someone summaries the story ?