Xbox One

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

Dayummmm... I can smell the burn from here.

[Excorsism]

The only reason why I'd buy a Xbox One.

[monir]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

hahahahahaha!

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Sony proved that they didn't need Exclusives to sell their console; they just had to place themselves as the clear choice for multi-platform gaming. Exclusives are nice, but they are sticks, not carrots. MS will as usual pay game companies for timed exclusives, but that isn't going to work any better than before.

MS was dominating most of the big multiplat exclusives with the Xbox Live ecosystem, I don't see that changing with XboxOne, especially since they seem to be even more in bed with EA/Ubisoft/Activision this time around so there's going to be even more 'exclusive' goodies for the XboxOne.

[synaesthetic]

People buy Sony consoles to play JRPGs and Metal Gear games that don't end up on any other platform. I literally have no other reason to buy a Sony console--everything else ends up on Steam.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

MS was dominating most of the big multiplat exclusives with the Xbox Live ecosystem, I don't see that changing with XboxOne, especially since they seem to be even more in bed with EA/Ubisoft/Activision this time around so there's going to be even more 'exclusive' goodies for the XboxOne.

only until they see that MS alienated their fans with the xboxone and start running away from it faster than the flash.

[Dirty_Harry]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

People buy Sony consoles to play JRPGs and Metal Gear games that don't end up on any other platform. I literally have no other reason to buy a Sony console--everything else ends up on Steam.

And Metal Gear is not a exclusive anymore.

Steam or other pc digital enterprises is the way.

[takai]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

People buy Sony consoles to play JRPGs and Metal Gear games that don't end up on any other platform. I literally have no other reason to buy a Sony console--everything else ends up on Steam.

This. This. This.

Because of today's conferences I've become a PC guy. The amount of money I would spend on a console could pay for stuff to go towards my computer to play games a hundred times better.

So, besides a computer what else do I need to get to fully enjoy the PC experience?

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

MS was dominating most of the big multiplat exclusives with the Xbox Live ecosystem, I don't see that changing with XboxOne, especially since they seem to be even more in bed with EA/Ubisoft/Activision this time around so there's going to be even more 'exclusive' goodies for the XboxOne.

Yeah, being in 'bed' with 3rd parties that will most definitely have 99% of their games on all consoles is such a good thing for Microsoft.

Honestly, unless Microsoft's investment into their 1st party developers pay off very very well, we're already seeing the vestiges of how the games support will turn out.

JRPGs and Japanese-centric developers pretty much boycotted the 360 as the momentum failed to capture the Japanese market.

Many early XBox 'exclusives' eventually went on to join the Playstation ecosystem as well, or at least be ported over to the PC.

PS3 continues to have a strong range of exclusive games that's only exclusive to the console. Sure, they've lost some old-age exclusives along the way, but they've done well to build up a range of strong new IPs over the years.

[Dirty_Harry]

Many early XBox 'exclusives' eventually went on to join the Playstation ecosystem as well, or at least be ported over to the PC.

Maybe, but I don't know if you could say that for sure.

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

only until they see that MS alienated their fans with the xboxone and start running away from it faster than the flash.

They don't care about those fans. They weren't paying into the Xbox Live ecosystem anyways. This is their game plan this time around, tying everything around their ecosystem and maximizing their profit from them.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Yeah, being in 'bed' with 3rd parties that will most definitely have 99% of their games on all consoles is such a good thing for Microsoft.

Honestly, unless Microsoft's investment into their 1st party developers pay off very very well, we're already seeing the vestiges of how the games support will turn out.

JRPGs and Japanese-centric developers pretty much boycotted the 360 as the momentum failed to capture the Japanese market.

Many early XBox 'exclusives' eventually went on to join the Playstation ecosystem as well, or at least be ported over to the PC.

PS3 continues to have the strong range of exclusive games.

All the big multiplats with online components sold better on the Xbox360 compared to the PS3, and the retention rate was much higher on XboxLive. That's not going to change this time around because it was XboxLive that was getting them those numbers. Exclusives don't really mean much if they don't produce the kind of profit that MS and the big publishers want. Profit nowadays means online connectivity, online multiplayer, DLC packs, cash shop options. That's the route the XboxOne is going down and that's why the publishers are on board.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Dirty_Harry

Maybe, but I don't know if you could say that for sure.

Maybe indeed.

But put it this way. 360 had a huge momentum going into the previous console war. They laid out major heavy hitters, from Lost Oddysey all the way to IDOLM@STER. They literally left no stone unturned in their attempt to conquer the gaming market everywhere.

They've lost a lot of that momentum this gen, partly in due to the fact that Japan hates the 360, as well as the fact that PS3 has enough of a critical mass that most 3rd party devs cannot afford to alienate the Playstation base.

That story is unlikely to change going into this gen. It'll take a long time for the consoles to gain the critical mass they want, and even then, both consoles will have a major share.

Even if none of their 'exclusives' go on to be multi-plat this time round, I feel like they're not going to be able to go as strong as they did for the 360.

[Urzu 7]

Third console curse. XBone should be Microsoft's N64.

[kenjiharima]

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[Solace]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

Third console curse. XBone should be Microsoft's N64.

You mean the Saturn. The N64 was actually quite successful.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by Solace

You mean the Saturn. The N64 was actually quite successful.

MS will throw so much money into it that it'll probably be more successful than the Saturn. They'll probably pay for a lot of console exclusives.

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

I buy Sony consoles to play JRPGs and Metal Gear games that don't end up on any other platform. I literally have no other reason to buy a Sony console--everything else I want ends up on Steam.

fixed.

Originally Posted by takai

This. This. This.

Because of today's conferences I've become a PC guy. The amount of money I would spend on a console could pay for stuff to go towards my computer to play games a hundred times better.

As a long time PC AND console gamer, no, a PC doesn't "play games a hundred times better."

Some game plays better on the PC, other games plays better on a console. Sometimes the precision of KB/M control is what I want, while other times it's just a much better experience to sit back on a couch and enjoy console gaming on the big screen in my home theater system.

So, besides a computer what else do I need to get to fully enjoy the PC experience?

a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers?

[Urzu 7]

XBox One? More like XBox Done. *trollface*

XBox, go home.

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by kyp275

fixed.




As a long time PC AND console gamer, no, a PC doesn't "play games a hundred times better."

Some game plays better on the PC, other games plays better on a console. Sometimes the precision of KB/M control is what I want, while other times it's just a much better experience to sit back on a couch and enjoy console gaming on the big screen in my home theater system.



a monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers?

You can hook your PC up to your TV and sit on your couch too. You can even get your PS3 controller working on your PC pretty easily, even in wireless mode.

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

You can hook your PC up to your TV and sit on your couch too. You can even get your PS3 controller working on your PC pretty easily, even in wireless mode.

My PC is nowhere near my TV, nor do I want it to be. I actually do use my PC for work, which means I'd rather keep my desk and multi-monitor setup - a couch is not very ergonomically conductive to keyboard and mouse.