2009-08-26, 20:10 | Link #21 |
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I'm going to say that there are times when Kyon seems too snarky to me; when the snark is so heavy laden that it contributes to the "unreliable narrator" effect that some of us here have pointed out.
Beyond that... I really don't see what's cool about always being negative. Seriously. Sure, a fair number of his comments and jokes are funny, but he goes overboard at times too, I think. I'd much rather hang out with somebody upbeat like Haruhi. All in all... Spoiler for Novel spoilers:
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2009-08-26, 20:14 | Link #22 |
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You want too much snark? Check out the Haruhi-chan OP. He snarks to the point of sounding exhausted.
But, to be fair, he does have to curb Haruhi's drive. With her status, "drive" can translate into something that is out of control.
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2009-08-26, 20:40 | Link #25 |
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If there's one thing that bugs me about Kyon it's his overblown praise of Mikuru (particularly in the novels). Yes she's cute, we get it Kyon.
Kyon's got more going for him than just the snark though. He has his moments of cleverness, like in the end of the Sigh Arc. Blah I wish I can come up with more to say. I always seem to blank when it comes to forum discussions. |
2009-08-26, 20:50 | Link #26 |
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Funny, his romanticizing over Mikuru is one of the things I like about Kyon. It shows that he's genuinely capable of positive thinking from time to time. Granted, I think that he blows Mikuru's appearance a bit out of proportion vis a vis what he says/thinks about Haruhi and Yuki (both of which being above average in physical appearance, imo), but for me, I'd like to see him recognize Haruhi and Yuki's good looks more instead of appreciating Mikuru's less.
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2009-08-26, 21:00 | Link #27 | |
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2009-08-26, 21:42 | Link #29 | |
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...Well it could be worse I guess. At least Kyon's compliments have some class to them. His compliments regarding Haruhi and Yuki sound much more natural. And yeah I would also like for Kyon to compliment Haruhi and Yuki more. Doesn't he pretty much say that Haruhi is as good-looking as Mikuru? I think there was something along those lines in Endless Eight (novel version anyway). |
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2009-08-26, 23:15 | Link #30 | |
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I was giving an example of a girl who isn't blatantly attracted to Kyon. Technically... Mikuru has no intentions of pursuing a relationship with Kyon. If not for Haruhi's (and Nagato's) retribution, then because history says she didn't, so she can't. Haruhi and Kyon are both examples of people who look attractive, but possess personalities that often clash with others.
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2009-08-27, 02:02 | Link #31 |
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I always thought that Kyon's (over) complimenting of Mikuru was more to do with the fact that he can't admit to himself that he actually likes Haruhi more. A kind of "No! Mikuru is the one I like, not anyone else!" type of thing Almost 'forcing' himself to compliment her so he doesn't have to think of Haruhi.
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Oh, and real life "genki" people ("genki" that's the nice way to put it...) aren't that fun to be with. The same goes for real life clumsy people... they aren't cute. |
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2009-08-27, 04:33 | Link #39 | |
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Or could it be that Kyon has a little more faith in Haruhi and has grown a little? I think that's the case. |
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Also, I dislike the heavy layers of pretentiousness that some fans are reading into Kyon and Koizumi - such a notion makes them far less likable as characters, imo. It's really not that hard to simply accept that Kyon finds Mikuru more attractive than Haruhi. It's really not. Yes, Haruhi has a great look herself, but if Kyon's main thing is basic cuteness and/or breast size, Mikuru genuinely has Haruhi beat there. Quote:
Not to say I'd handle it terribly better than Kyon does, but snark is rarely my coping mechanism of choice. Quite the contrary, my coping mechanism of choice is usually to try to look on the bright side of things as much as possible. If I was in Kyon's shoes... 1) I'd be less snarky 2) I probably would have had a worse, more long-term traumatized reaction to the Asakura incident... but not snarky so much as I'd be more jumpy and a bit more cautious. I think that most people would have, honestly. Kyon's got serious guts, I'll give him that. 3) I'd simply refuse to pay out Haruhi's outrageous financial penalties, whatever the consequences... or, if Kyon's financially loaded (as I frequently suspect since he never objects to those penalties), I'd be more generous upfront to avoid the degrading nature of taking such financial penalties. 4) I would have taken Itsuki up on his "I love you" suggestion from the endless summer arc. If it works out well... great. If it doesn't, I can always blame Itsuki. 5) Overall, I'd be enjoying it all a lot more than Kyon is. Beyond that, I'm not sure. Overall, Kyon has a lot of guts, I'll give him that. Quote:
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