2009-08-22, 17:46 | Link #1241 | ||
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Drei is under SM's control. It's just more subtle. He points her in one direction and she goes like a rabid animal looking for the meal. SM still wants Reiji back imo. To get Reiji back, you have to kill off Elen as Elen is the reason why Reiji is still running. Therfore, Drei goes after Elen first. (thinking that Elen stole Reiji from her probably) With all things equal, Reiji destroys Drei and with no place to go he returns to Inferno. SM gets what he wants. At the least, it ends in a draw and SM still wins imo. (like the previous round when SM told Elen to kill Reijji) *just an hypothesis* Drei has inherited the Elen spot. Remember that little lecture that SM gave Elen in ep. 19 7:46-8:50 before sending her off to kill Reiji. It applies here too imo. Not all scars are physical ones.
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2009-08-22, 17:56 | Link #1244 |
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From racial slurs to eyecatches huh? This thread is sure movin' fast.
Discussing the latter, I think it's simply to show the fundamental difference between all of the Phantoms. Both Ein and Zwei undertake a completely different mindframe when they're out on the job, donning a persona mask if you will as they go out and kill. Drei on the other hand acts exactly the same no matter what she's doing, there is no shift in her eyes like with Ein or Zwei and there is no separation between the underworld life & everyday life for her. |
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However, the masks are still not the ONLY symbol. Phantom is used as a word for ghosts as well and ghosts and phantoms are often associated with hiding and shadows. And my post there to the original poster was to say that just because she doesn't have a mask does not mean that it doesn't mean that she can't be considered a Phantom and explain the reason why she might not have a mask in the eyecather. Quote:
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---- I still think that Elen is better. She thinks one step ahead. Reiji is just going with the flow. Even during the countersnipe operation, he only thought about the obvious position and not the stellar "Wanted" position. Elen prob could have killed SM in a crowd imo.
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2009-08-22, 18:50 | Link #1248 | |
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2009-08-22, 18:54 | Link #1249 | |
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Rejij fits SM role the best, Drei has the Drive to Kill people but no Control. While Ellen has Control though no Drive, and while Reiji has both he thinks too much. But with Drei and Ellen gone I think SM would think that he'll be able to get Reiji back. |
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Elen has Drive if her life is in jeopardy, most people do. If she's protecting Reiji, that Drive will kick in. Reiji's Drive was actually eating him away mentally. That's not good either. She's just been discounted because she willingly left SM for Reiji twice. ( I applaud her for falling in love.) SM is just being a sore loser imo.
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2009-08-22, 19:09 | Link #1251 | |
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I don't think she's a Phantom nor was she ever meant to be one. Yes, Scythe's real project was those other girls with masks in the OP and earlier episodes Cal is just an experiment in doing things RADICALLY different What came into being after all of that was not a Phantom, but rather a Poltergeist |
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2009-08-22, 19:25 | Link #1252 |
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SM pointing Drei in Elen's direction was evil.
Elen can't really kill Drei because it would make Reiji sad imo. (Hopefully self-defense would be a good excuse.) Drei has no problems killing Elen to demoralize Reiji before she gets to him. Also, that killing an ex-Phantom brag rights would kick in too imo.
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2009-08-22, 19:39 | Link #1254 |
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"reji's killing intent/drive" is what basically allowed him to screw up killing scythe master in the first place...his whole "LAWL LAWL IMMA STARE YOU DOWN AND WALK REALLY SLOWLY LAWL ALWL>>>WATCH ME TAAKE 10 MINUTES TO POINT THE GUN AT YOU AND PULL THE TRIGGER SO THAT ELEN CAN JUMP IN FRONT LULZ LULZ LULZ"
yeah...big screw up on reiji's part...this would all of ended well had he actually just been smart enough to just kill SM faster edit: oh and i doubt SM wnats reiji back, i'm sure if cal and ellen both die, then there's even more reason for reiji to fuck SM up hard. |
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You know...like the evil villain who wouldn't mind dying for the sake of dragging someone else who is a genius into the darkness edit: @mizuno -> so true so true hahahaha |
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2009-08-22, 21:37 | Link #1258 |
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Unlikely seeing how his pants changed from white to brown when Reiji was about to kill him.
He admires Reiji qualities but not Reiji himself. On another matter, personally i think that Ein is better on average than Zwei and Drei, being those 2 on similar levels, but Reiji has insane overdrives when hes pushed to the limit. Same happens to Drei but to a lesser extent. |
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Im really starting to think that Cal is seriously under estimating Reiji and Elen's prowess. Granted Reiji was confirmed to have a higher potential then Ein but Eins experience imo still keeps her at the forefront she thinks 10 moves ahead in a fight she thinks more ahead then even Reiji does thats a skills that i think Cal is lacking. Cal has had 2 years to train to hon her skills but she still lacks experience and shes too emotional in a fight. If she thinks Rage is going to be the key to taking down Reiji or Elen shes going to learn a lesson the hard way. I dont doubt her skills i doubt her potential to actually use them on an opponent who is as skilled as she is.
I havent played game or anything but I know there were several different endings. which people have leaked out here im hoping they do something rather original in anime.
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