The Translation of Haruhi Suzumiya (Novel Translation Thread)

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by PastPrime

One thing about Nagato

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I wonder why, when she remade the world, she didn't remake herself with long hair and a ponytail.

And don't forget

Spoiler:

Bigger chest, if she liked Kyon that much

To try to answer your question

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I think that while Nagato gained emotions, she didn't grasp the concept of how much the physical appearance could be meaningful for humans yet. Just having emotions alone, and try to understand them, was too much for her.

The hell, I am babbling...

[anselfir]

Precisely as these characters are eh, influential, changing them or highlighting them too much will distract the reader from teh nagato-ness of the new nagato, and perhaps detach her character.

[PastPrime]

Originally Posted by Sheba

And don't forget

Spoiler:

Bigger chest, if she liked Kyon that much

To try to answer your question

Spoiler:

I think that while Nagato gained emotions, she didn't grasp the concept of how much the physical appearance could be meaningful for humans yet. Just having emotions alone, and try to understand them, was too much for her.

The hell, I am babbling...

I realized that the answer is very simple.

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The only one who has been told Kyon's preference is Haruhi, and she thinks that that was a dream. If Nagato knew then she probably would have made her hair long with a ponytail. And her hair would be getting longer so she could tie it in a ponytail. That is what we need, Nagato with long hair and a ponytail doing battle with Haruhi, also with long hair and a ponytail, for Kyon's affections.

[panzerfan]

Congratulations on the completion of volume 4 (author's notes doesn't count). All that's left after this is finish snow mountain, and get LOVER and where'd the cat go for 6 before the path to volume 7 laid bare.

[Noppapana]

^^

Congrats to Kinny for translating vlume 4

Some spoilers

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i am amazed how jealous Haruhi could be on Snow Island Syndrome and Kyon doenst noticed anything

[-Ajax-]

so chronologically LOVER is next right? well after the Authors Notes lol

Vol4 was definitely one of the best yet, so many things happened XD awesome job Kinny

[panzerfan]

LOVER precedes Snow Mountain, and right after Snow Mountain comes Where'd the cat go. With the conclusion of cat, the winter drama will almost come to an end... that is, save it till volume 7 and it's a huge spoiler to talk about that.

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by panzerfan

Congratulations on the completion of volume 4 (author's notes doesn't count). All that's left after this is finish snow mountain, and get LOVER and where'd the cat go for 6 before the path to volume 7 laid bare.

Of course Author's Notes count. This volume's author's notes gives insight into where Tanigawa got his comedic writing style from, and his inspiration for Yuki's character design.

Epilogue
http://project.baka-tsuki.net/index....lume4_Epilogue

Author's Notes
http://project.baka-tsuki.net/index....thor%27s_Notes

Here's a break down of the spoiler-free timeline:

DECEMBER
17th Volume 4 (prologue)
18th Volume 4
19th Volume 4
20th Volume 4
21st Volume 4
22nd
23rd
24th Volume 4 (Epilogue)
25th Vol 5 - Snow Mountain Syndrome (prologue)
26th
27th Vol 6 - Charmed at First Sight LOVER (approx. date)
28th Vol 6 - Charmed at First Sight LOVER (approx. date)
29th
30th Vol 5 - Snow Mountain Syndrome
31st Vol 6 - Where'd the Cat Go?

After realizing there's still a week's gap between Vol 4 and Snow Mountain Syndrome, Tanigawa decided to stuff another interesting short story in that already jammed-packed period. Charmed at First Sight LOVER is all about Yuki again, Yuki fans rejoice.

[Anaglyph]

Spoiler:

So Kyon finds out that Haruhi has been at his side for three days straight and his first instinct is to draw on her face?

Man, my respect for the guy just dropped a notch.

[anselfir]

Kyon is a bit of a callous f*** in this latest chapter. But I'm not really sure how this situation can develop without significant "movement" if he is not this way.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

and his inspiration for Yuki's character design.


Author's Notes
http://project.baka-tsuki.net/index....thor%27s_Notes

That was unexpected, a whole part of the internet rubbed on my face that Yuki have been likely and wholly inspired by Teh Rei so much that I fully accepted it.
And this bit of the author's life goes against all my assumptions.

[Anaglyph]

Originally Posted by anselfir

Kyon is a bit of a callous f*** in this latest chapter. But I'm not really sure how this situation can develop without significant "movement" if he is not this way.

I'm not really expecting much more until the last book, whenever that will be. As soon as Kyon realises/admits to himself how he feels about her there's nowhere left to go except the big kiss (for the second time). That's assuming they will get together, and I have my doubts about that sometimes.

Something mildy interesting, but probably not very relevant: in the anime "Someday in the Rain" episode there's that bit where Kyon wakes up and it's implied that Haruhi just kissed him; he then asks if she drew on his face. Hey, Kyon's desire to draw on her face could be meant to imply that really he wants to kiss her. Perhaps it's some Japanese teenage thing. Back when I was at school it was poking your tongue out at someone. Do that and the "X and X sitting in a tree" type stuff would start up. Reaching? Naaaah.

[Noppapana]

^^
but Kyon sees the first time kiss kinda like a trauma
he doenst even want to remember it

[Anaglyph]

Originally Posted by Noppapana

^^
but Kyon sees the first time kiss kinda like a trauma
he doenst even want to remember it

I don't really buy his trauma act. That's just him being a stereotypical teenage male. The fond smile he gets when he sees her wearing the ponytail and the "Looks good on you" tells the true story. Although that's the anime, the novel is less overt. Either way, he's not exactly vomitting at the time.

He's clearly conflicted about it and doesn't really know how he feels, but I doubt saving the world was the only thing on his mind.

[Noppapana]

^^

could it be that he just want to keep it for himself ?

[Anaglyph]

Originally Posted by Noppapana

^^

could it be that he just want to keep it for himself ?

I was editting my post when you replied, but to expand on my edit. Basically I just think he's confused. Much as I love Haruhi as a character, there's no denying she's a domineering bullheaded brat. Not really suprising that he has a certain resistance to admitting any latent attraction. heh But that's just my opinion.

[panzerfan]

I personally think that the he does get caught up in the moment with the troubles that he is thrusted into and those feelings linger on in him... leading him to his conclusion thus far on Haruhi. Haruhi is definitely precious to Kyon for him to bother thinking of getting back at her with such childish pranks.

I am not sure if I can ever label him as a stereotypical teenager. I find myself being dragged onward with an intense cramming session of humanities in almost all the critical chapters within the book.


I have come to love Haruhi, greatly. Actually, I don't think I have a grudge against any character, not even Koizumi come Snow Mountain.

[Noppapana]

but there is somethin' bothering me
does Haruhi see Kyon just as a SOS-member like the other trio ?
perhaps thats why she find him so precious

[anselfir]

Originally Posted by Anaglyph

I'm not really expecting much more until the last book, whenever that will be. As soon as Kyon realises/admits to himself how he feels about her there's nowhere left to go except the big kiss (for the second time). That's assuming they will get together, and I have my doubts about that sometimes.

Something mildy interesting, but probably not very relevant: in the anime "Someday in the Rain" episode there's that bit where Kyon wakes up and it's implied that Haruhi just kissed him; he then asks if she drew on his face. Hey, Kyon's desire to draw on her face could be meant to imply that really he wants to kiss her. Perhaps it's some Japanese teenage thing. Back when I was at school it was poking your tongue out at someone. Do that and the "X and X sitting in a tree" type stuff would start up. Reaching? Naaaah.

Ah, very elegant theory, I support it! It will turn out to be a weird romance story.

[lana3007]

So now that it's complete I have decided to read the 4th volume, and wow, i finally see what all the hype was about. That was really one complicated, but gripping story.

What surprised me was that even though this is supposed to be a Yuki-centric story, the person who really got to shine in the one was Kyon. He finally comes to terms with being a 'main' character, which is quite a step for him.

As for him and Haruhi, he sure wanted to see her a lot. He got so excited when he found out where to find her, you have to wonder if there was more to it than wanting to see someone familiar. And he did have so odd reactions to Koizumi being Haruhi's new slave/boyfriend, which you might almost consider jealousy, he seemed want to feel that he was more important to her then Koizumi is (the original Haruhi that is), which really does point to her being more important to him then the rest of SOS brigade.

And as for whether Haruhi sees him as more important then other members, most likely yes, although I don't think there is any real proof for that so far.