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lamer_de · 2004-01-16, 06:54

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It is not currently being subbed by this unknown group even though their work is becoming available on the net for the very first time.

*beep*, wrong. BT maybe, but it's been around on ed2k and other p2p apps for quite some time. I have up to ep 13 (with 5,8 and 12 missing :P), but will wait for Seichi to watch it, as at least the video quality will be higher. But I believe that the trans quality will be higher aswell

CU,
lamer_de

kuru · 2004-01-16, 07:27

The "unknown group" is unknown only if those who digitized the VHS tapes decided to cut the credits. The original tapes have full credits, but they didn't put them over the anime but in the end of the tape.

Sakon was started on VHS by a group called Odyssey Anime. They were a very good group, specially as they would do not only popular anime, but also anime nobody else would touch (Utsu no Miko, for instance, that they fully subbed as Heavenly Chronicles, or Glass Mask TV, that they also fully subbed or a very rare old movie called Run Melos).

Their page was at www.odysseyanime.com (if you use http://web.archive.org/ you'll probably be able to find some old versions).

Some works Odyssey has done:

D4 Princess
Gdleen OVA
Carol OVA
Legend of Basara
Suddenly Princess (Detatoko Princess)
Vampire Princess Miyu TV
Yokohama Shopping Log (first OVA series)
You're Under Arrest Special
You're Under Arrest movie
Nadesico movie
Card Captor Sakura movies 1&2
several Lupin III movies (Orders To Assassinate Lupin, Sword That Cuts Through Steel, Pursuit of Harimao's Treasure, To Hell With Nostradamus, Secret of Twilight Gemini, Fujiko's Unlucky Days, $1 Money War)
Heavenly Chronicles (Utsu no Miko)
Gal Force Revolution
Fortune Quest OVA

The 2 series Odyssey didn't finished were Ayatsuri Sakon (that they called Puppet Master Sakon) and Android Announcer Maico 2010. This because they had a conflict betweern the 2 main members (Robert D Yarbrough & Donna R Watson) and decided to finish the group.

After that, Robert Yarbrough decided to continue Sakon as "Gnomish Anime" but he didn't finish it too.

Odyssey/Gnomish did the first 16 episodes of Sakon, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not sure if Seichi's version will be better in translations. Odyssey was always well regarded for their translations and a new translation doesn't mean it'll be a better translation. But I'lll probably like Seichi's version better if they keep the honorifics (something that Odyssey didn't do).

Glass Mask:

Run Melos:

Utsu no Miko:

D4 Princess:

Detatoko Princess:

Carol:

Gdleen:

K_R · 2004-01-16, 08:22

And when will seichi release episode 4!?

I hope I can get it out this weekend, along with 5.

PocariSweat · 2004-01-18, 21:38

Wow episode four of Ayatsuri Sakon! - now I really have seen everything

The last I saw of that was over a year ago. It's kind of neat how with the current lull in new shows, some old ones are coming back from the dead. There's a ton of poor neglected shows I'd love to see renewed interest in: Ask Dr. Rin, Gakkou no Kaidan, Kodocha (in AVI format), Konjiki no Gash Bell, Ashita no Nadja, Kasumin, Detective Academy Q and I'm sure quite a few I'm forgetting.

DrWho2002 · 2004-01-19, 03:00

AnimeCo is still working on Ashita no Nadja. If you check on their website, the next few eps are getting worked on. I hope A-E/Aoshi still keeps on subbing Konjiki no Gash Bell!! That's a great series.

K_R · 2004-01-19, 03:24

But, when will sakon 05 be released... ?

Old stuff is good, but acquiring raws is a pain ~

PocariSweat · 2004-01-19, 03:25

I don't know that any of the series I mentioned have been completely dropped - it's just that they tend to be overlooked. They're kind of the runts of the anime litter I guess, but some really are pretty good and deserve a little fanfare.

I'm sure many people have a favorite series of this type, and with luck maybe they'll get some attention now that the new shows have slowed a bit.

K_R · 2004-01-19, 16:18

There's a surprise in the episode for the viewers... Let me know what you think about it, and whether I should sprinkle more in, in future episodes.

ChibiDusk · 2004-01-19, 16:53

Hm, I'm sure to check it out! Downloading right now!
I loved this series when I first saw it on VHS and I am very glad to see a good fansub group give us quality episodes! Thank you, I'll write my thoughts on ep5 after I finish it ^^

ChibiDusk · 2004-01-19, 23:31

OMG! Haha! That was great!

dee · 2004-01-20, 03:48

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Originally Posted by kuru

The "unknown group" is unknown only if those who digitized the VHS tapes decided to cut the credits. The original tapes have full credits, but they didn't put them over the anime but in the end of the tape. [/b]

...And that happens a lot.

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Sakon was started on VHS by a group called Odyssey Anime. They were a very good group, specially as they would do not only popular anime, but also anime nobody else would touch (Utsu no Miko, for instance, that they fully subbed as Heavenly Chronicles, or Glass Mask TV, that they also fully subbed or a very rare old movie called Run Melos).[/b]

Odyssey was indeed a damn good fansub group. That was true they provided rare anime, though, I believe they were influenced and got several sources from the Techno Girls.

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Their page was at www.odysseyanime.com (if you use http://web.archive.org/ you'll probably be able to find some old versions).

Ah... you're taking me back...

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Some works Odyssey has done:

D4 Princess
Gdleen OVA
Carol OVA
Legend of Basara
Suddenly Princess (Detatoko Princess)
Vampire Princess Miyu TV
Yokohama Shopping Log (first OVA series)
You're Under Arrest Special
You're Under Arrest movie
Nadesico movie
Card Captor Sakura movies 1&2
several Lupin III movies (Orders To Assassinate Lupin, Sword That Cuts Through Steel, Pursuit of Harimao's Treasure, To Hell With Nostradamus, Secret of Twilight Gemini, Fujiko's Unlucky Days, $1 Money War)
Heavenly Chronicles (Utsu no Miko)
Gal Force Revolution
Fortune Quest OVA

The 2 series Odyssey didn't finished were Ayatsuri Sakon (that they called Puppet Master Sakon) and Android Announcer Maico 2010. This because they had a conflict betweern the 2 main members (Robert D Yarbrough & Donna R Watson) and decided to finish the group.

I don't agree with that one, but I'm not going to discuss their private business here.

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After that, Robert Yarbrough decided to continue Sakon as "Gnomish Anime" but he didn't finish it too.

Odyssey/Gnomish did the first 16 episodes of Sakon, if I'm not mistaken.

No, you're right, because I have my SVHS master of 13-16.

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I'm not sure if Seichi's version will be better in translations. Odyssey was always well regarded for their translations and a new translation doesn't mean it'll be a better translation. But I'lll probably like Seichi's version better if they keep the honorifics (something that Odyssey didn't do).

Well, Odyssey's method of translation was to appeal to the American audience. Although at that time, many in the community didn't agree with their style, but quality of the translations weren't questioned.

Odyssey was among the last of well respected traditonal fansubbers. Groups such as Tomodachi, Silverwynd, The Techno Girls, (now DVD) etc. Not only provided video quality, but as well in translations. Today, I have yet to see anyone come close.

ChibiDusk · 2004-01-20, 15:28

Seichi, I noticed a typo in episode 05
at about 22:35 it says
"Ccould" instead of "could"

zalas · 2004-01-20, 15:56

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Originally Posted by ChibiDusk

Seichi, I noticed a typo in episode 05
at about 22:35 it says
"Ccould" instead of "could"

<smacks K>
(j/k)
Thank you

NoSanninWa · 2004-01-20, 16:08

Also the grammar in episodes 4 and 5 was occasionally a little bit... odd. You need to smack your editor and QC. Episodes 1-3 were better.

a_nevels666 · 2004-01-20, 16:48

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Also the grammar in episodes 4 and 5 was occasionally a little bit... odd. You need to smack your editor and QC. Episodes 1-3 were better.

I just watched the first episode, I thought it was OK until that guy on the motorcycle...

Spoiler:

That was great!

Now I've already downloaded episode 2-4. (still need to watch them though)

K_R · 2004-01-21, 06:45

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Originally Posted by NoSanninWa

Also the grammar in episodes 4 and 5 was occasionally a little bit... odd. You need to smack your editor and QC. Episodes 1-3 were better.

今週、沢山試験があるから、第４話と第５話はちょっと。。。皆、ごめんね。修整版が欲しい？

a_nevels666 · 2004-01-21, 08:33

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Originally Posted by K_R

今週、沢山試験があるから、第４話と第５話はちょっと。。。皆、ごめんね。修整版が欲しい？

Rough translation: Because he had exams, the 4th and 5th episodes contain some errors, would you like re-done versions of these episodes?

( Just thought I'd translate it, please ignore any spelling and grammar errors in my translation, as I'm not planing to do a second version of it.

)

I only watched episode 1-3.
(Which were great by the way, thanks!)

I already downloaded episode 4, I'll let you know what I think after I watch it.

EDIT: I watched episode 4, and I honestly didn't notice any grammar or spelling errors...don't know about episode 5.

Could someone give some examples of bad grammar/spelling in episode 4? (or 5 for that matter, but I haven't watched that one yet.)

durrem · 2004-01-21, 12:03

Hmm, well even though it was a funny commercial, I would rather it be left out in future episodes. You could do a commercial pack of all the funny commercials you picked up and offer those separatly. I'm sure some people would download them. Anyway, I would prefer my anime commercial free :)

krusher · 2004-01-21, 17:03

I thought it was funny and dont have a problem with them as long as they arent too long.

NoSanninWa · 2004-01-21, 17:21

I liked the commercial. It added some of the flavor of a real japanese broadcast. I'd love it if you added one commercial in each epiosode. In the future please sub them even though the dialogue is pretty lame.

People who don't want to see them can always skip forward. If you use a real video player (BSPlayer, CoreMedia Player, Media Player Classic) it can skip forward 10 seconds with the press of one button. Three button clicks and you're looking at the eyecatch.

2004-01-16, 07:27	Link #42
kuru Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	The "unknown group" is unknown only if those who digitized the VHS tapes decided to cut the credits. The original tapes have full credits, but they didn't put them over the anime but in the end of the tape. Sakon was started on VHS by a group called Odyssey Anime. They were a very good group, specially as they would do not only popular anime, but also anime nobody else would touch (Utsu no Miko, for instance, that they fully subbed as Heavenly Chronicles, or Glass Mask TV, that they also fully subbed or a very rare old movie called Run Melos). Their page was at www.odysseyanime.com (if you use http://web.archive.org/ you'll probably be able to find some old versions). Some works Odyssey has done: D4 Princess Gdleen OVA Carol OVA Legend of Basara Suddenly Princess (Detatoko Princess) Vampire Princess Miyu TV Yokohama Shopping Log (first OVA series) You're Under Arrest Special You're Under Arrest movie Nadesico movie Card Captor Sakura movies 1&2 several Lupin III movies (Orders To Assassinate Lupin, Sword That Cuts Through Steel, Pursuit of Harimao's Treasure, To Hell With Nostradamus, Secret of Twilight Gemini, Fujiko's Unlucky Days, $1 Money War) Heavenly Chronicles (Utsu no Miko) Gal Force Revolution Fortune Quest OVA The 2 series Odyssey didn't finished were Ayatsuri Sakon (that they called Puppet Master Sakon) and Android Announcer Maico 2010. This because they had a conflict betweern the 2 main members (Robert D Yarbrough & Donna R Watson) and decided to finish the group. After that, Robert Yarbrough decided to continue Sakon as "Gnomish Anime" but he didn't finish it too. Odyssey/Gnomish did the first 16 episodes of Sakon, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure if Seichi's version will be better in translations. Odyssey was always well regarded for their translations and a new translation doesn't mean it'll be a better translation. But I'lll probably like Seichi's version better if they keep the honorifics (something that Odyssey didn't do). Glass Mask: Run Melos: Utsu no Miko: D4 Princess: Detatoko Princess: Carol: Gdleen: Last edited by kuru; 2004-01-16 at 08:04.

2004-01-18, 21:38	Link #44
PocariSweat ポカリが？どんな動物ですか？ Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: あんたの頭の中	Revenge of the Zombie Anime! Wow episode four of Ayatsuri Sakon! - now I really have seen everything The last I saw of that was over a year ago. It's kind of neat how with the current lull in new shows, some old ones are coming back from the dead. There's a ton of poor neglected shows I'd love to see renewed interest in: Ask Dr. Rin, Gakkou no Kaidan, Kodocha (in AVI format), Konjiki no Gash Bell, Ashita no Nadja, Kasumin, Detective Academy Q and I'm sure quite a few I'm forgetting.

2004-01-19, 03:24	Link #46
K_R also known as K! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan	But, when will sakon 05 be released... ? Old stuff is good, but acquiring raws is a pain ~ Last edited by K_R; 2004-01-19 at 05:09.

2004-01-19, 16:18	Link #48
K_R also known as K! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan	Ayatsuri Sakon 05 There's a surprise in the episode for the viewers... Let me know what you think about it, and whether I should sprinkle more in, in future episodes.

2004-01-20, 16:08	Link #54
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	Also the grammar in episodes 4 and 5 was occasionally a little bit... odd. You need to smack your editor and QC. Episodes 1-3 were better. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2004-01-16, 08:22	Link #43
K_R also known as K! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan	And when will seichi release episode 4!? I hope I can get it out this weekend, along with 5.

2004-01-19, 03:00	Link #45
DrWho2002 Fushigi Mystery!! @_@ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada, eh?	AnimeCo is still working on Ashita no Nadja. If you check on their website, the next few eps are getting worked on. I hope A-E/Aoshi still keeps on subbing Konjiki no Gash Bell!! That's a great series.

2004-01-19, 03:25	Link #47
PocariSweat ポカリが？どんな動物ですか？ Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: あんたの頭の中	I don't know that any of the series I mentioned have been completely dropped - it's just that they tend to be overlooked. They're kind of the runts of the anime litter I guess, but some really are pretty good and deserve a little fanfare. I'm sure many people have a favorite series of this type, and with luck maybe they'll get some attention now that the new shows have slowed a bit.

2004-01-19, 16:53	Link #49
ChibiDusk Back From The Dead? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Age: 34	Hm, I'm sure to check it out! Downloading right now! I loved this series when I first saw it on VHS and I am very glad to see a good fansub group give us quality episodes! Thank you, I'll write my thoughts on ep5 after I finish it ^^

2004-01-19, 23:31	Link #50
ChibiDusk Back From The Dead? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Age: 34	OMG! Haha! That was great!

2004-01-20, 15:28	Link #52
ChibiDusk Back From The Dead? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Age: 34	Seichi, I noticed a typo in episode 05 at about 22:35 it says "Ccould" instead of "could"

2004-01-21, 12:03	Link #58
durrem [megaplay] sparkles Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Milpitas, CA, USA	Hmm, well even though it was a funny commercial, I would rather it be left out in future episodes. You could do a commercial pack of all the funny commercials you picked up and offer those separatly. I'm sure some people would download them. Anyway, I would prefer my anime commercial free :)

2004-01-21, 17:03	Link #59
krusher Member Join Date: Dec 2003	I thought it was funny and dont have a problem with them as long as they arent too long.

2004-01-21, 17:21	Link #60
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	I liked the commercial. It added some of the flavor of a real japanese broadcast. I'd love it if you added one commercial in each epiosode. In the future please sub them even though the dialogue is pretty lame. People who don't want to see them can always skip forward. If you use a real video player (BSPlayer, CoreMedia Player, Media Player Classic) it can skip forward 10 seconds with the press of one button. Three button clicks and you're looking at the eyecatch. __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.