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The Ontology of Haruhi Suzumiya
You know, I've never scanned the OP in so much detail as this before... After the title and before the Starry Run sequence are a lot of formulae written in white (hence hard to read). I could spot:
Haruhi Power Walking shot (focussing on her skirt/mid-body) Electron-positron orbits The Capital Lambda symbol Haruhi Power Walking shot (focussing just above her head) - Chemical formula for a Benzene ring (along with its formula written out compact form: C6H6) - t_universe (presumably a Cosmology equation) - Planck's Constant (i.e. h-bar) in [J s] units - Some geometric series summing to infinity - D = 0.4 + 0.3 x 2^n (not sure what this is an equation of) - Schrodinger's equation written in Dirac Notation - N = R^0 x f_p x n_e x f_l(?) x f_i(?) x f_c x f (this seems somewhat familiar but I can't quite pinpoint it...) - H(x) = - SUM [for all x within the set X] (......) (couldn't read all of this but I don't quite recognise that x within X set condition. Maybe a Hamiltonian?) Haruhi Cheerleader sequence English + Kanji + Standard form representations (i.e. 10^3, 10^6, etc) of orders of magnitude going upwards (up to Septillion and higher) Mikuru Cheerleader sequence - Schrodinger's equation applied to a potential well - E^2 = c^2 p^2 -> (i h-bar d/dt)^2 c^2.... (etc etc etc) (Normally it's E^2 = c^2 p^2 + m^2 c^4 so this is some expression for a massless particle - likely a photon) - Expression for the time-dependance of wave functions (though they're using d^2/dq^2 where q is a generalised space coordinate) - h-bar = h/2*Pi (standard notation this) - E = mc^2 - A partial differential equation used in Thermodynamics (I think that's S for Entropy and u for Internal Energy... damn so rusty on this one) - A probability expression - Grad^2 spelled out (d^2/d(x_1)^2 + d^2/d(x_2)^2 + ... + d^2/d(x_n)^2) ... I'm probably the only one right now who's wishing Mikuru isn't blocking the background in this sequence. Haruhi Banchou sequence Kanji + Standard form representations for orders of magnitude this time heading towards the small scale (10^-15, -16, etc) At this rate, the Haruhi OP will become my motivation for studying for my final Physics exams... XD |
2006-04-20, 19:23 | Link #2 |
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1. The electron would be in 1s2 config so... Helium, if its stable or an unstable hydrogen ion...
2. http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious..._equation.html 3. There's also a conversion table for metric unit to their Chinese/Japanese written equivilents. This is shown in the cheerleading scene. Extremas all are taken from buddhist terminalogy. 一、十、百、千、萬、億、兆、京、垓、秭、穰、溝、澗、正、載、極、恆河沙、阿僧祇、那由他、不可思議、無 量大數 一 10E0, 十 10E1, 百 10E2, 千 10E3, 萬 10E4, 億 10E8, 兆 10E12, 京 10E16, 垓 10E20、秭 10E24, 穰、10E28, 溝 10E32, 澗 10E36, 正 10E40, 載 10E44, 極 10E48, 恆河沙 10E52, 阿僧祇10E56, 那由他10E60, 不可思議 10E64, 無量大數 10E68 分、釐、毫、絲、忽、微、纖、沙、塵、埃、渺、莫、模糊、逡巡、須臾、瞬息、彈指、刹那、六德、空虛、清靜 , 阿賴羅, 涅槃寂靜 分 10E-1, 釐 10E-2, 毫 10E-3, 絲 10E-4, 忽 10E-5, 微 10E-6, 纖10E-7, 沙 10E-8, 塵 10E-9, 埃 10E-10, 渺 10E-11, 莫 10E-12, 模糊 10E-13, 逡巡 10E-14, 須臾 10E-15, 瞬息 10E-16, 彈指 10E-17, 刹那 10E-18, 六德 10E-19, 空虛 10E-20, 、清靜 10E-21, 阿賴羅 10E-22, 涅槃寂靜 10E-24 ----------------- (now the English equivelent of this table) Uni, deca, hecto, kilo, mega, giga, tera, peta, exa, zetta, yotta. One, ten, hundred, thousand, million, milliard, billion, billiard, trillion, trilliard, quadrillion. One, ten, hundred, thousand, million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion, sextillion, septillion 10E0, 10E1, 10E2, 10E3, 10E6, 10E9, 10E12, 10E15, 10E18, 10E21, 10E24 deci, centi, milli, micro, nano, pico, femto, atto, zemtp, yocto. Tenth, hundredth, thousandth, millionth, milliardth, billionth, billiardth, trillionth, trilliardth, quadrillionth Tenth, hundredth, thousandth, millionth, billionth, trillionth, quadrillionth, sextillionth, septillionth. 10E-1, 10E-2, 10E-3, 10E-6, 10E-9, 10E-12, 10E-15, 10E-18, 10E-21, 10E-24 ----------------- 10E68 is infinity, 10E64 is incredable and 10E52 is like sand of the Padma river bank. 10E48 is literally 'limit'. 10E-21 is tranquility... There however exist far larger number. Googolplex for example is... 10E10E100. Googol is 10E100. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers
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2006-04-20, 22:15 | Link #3 |
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ok, don't get me started on the time theories.
At the last count there were five scientifically accepted hypothesis. (correct me if im wrong) But only two types could support your theories on Mikuru, #1. Multi-universe paradox branching. I.e. Everytime you change the course of the establish time of event, your alteration creates a parallel alternative universe to accommodate your change, thus you will never ever be able to return to your future original distination. #2. the other is that time is infinity mallable, but your personal self will continue to exist, dispite the change of time events thus you will exist in this new timeline yet still retain perfect memory of your original timeline history. at this moment im not so sure which one the author is using, but it's a good chance its not going to be one of those two types that will allow your speculation. ah, but then again, Hollywood always did like theory #2 ahh dammit. I give up on all this heavy topics, its not something i should be doing at 4am. >.<
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Fry - Aw don't worry, everything turned out ok, so, whose my grandfather? Professor - YOU ARE! When it comes to these time paradoxes the best thing to do is not think about them at all. Because when you think about it, then you get second thoughts about since it happened, then there would be no reason to travel through the past to do it and so forth. Though is there any reason why Yuki spilled the beans in front of kyon? And on another note, Spoiler:
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re: Yuki's revelation It'll be explained later. re: spoiler Its highly likely someone is going to make a doujin of precisely that matter
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Now to grant your wish and end the time paradoxes : I think the shows time traveling thing is based on Theory #3... the one that's not so used in movies ... Basically even if you go back in time you won't change a thing... because you are part of the timeline (of both timelines to be exact)... it's usually used in those movies where the idiot that goes back in time to correct something ends up the reason for it happening in the first place And some proof to back it up... Quote:
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2006-04-21, 13:04 | Link #9 | |
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2006-04-21, 13:12 | Link #10 |
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Well from what I remember, you can guarantee an event will occur sometime but you can never be sure as to when it'll happen in quantum mechanics.
(It's a good thing that Vexx is not Nanoha afterall, as an unrelated note)
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2006-04-21, 16:28 | Link #11 |
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I hate you all. :P
All this talk about time paradoxes has me not only reading a large portion of the time related articles in wiki, but also some VERY distantly related articles like evolution through sexual selection and about theories how our moon got created. >_<
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http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...=26413&page=34. Sushi-Y, melange and a whole lot have spent days and lose sleep to provide information by-the-minute due to Haruhiism's irresistable pull, like a blackhole that has a schwarzschild radius that can swallow galaxies whole. The thing though is that the more you know, the more sense this series make. The power of Haruhi compels you to further yourself! Although maybe... Quote:
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Furthermore (if you watched Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, you would know), it is conceviable that earth could teleport from its orbit into the event horizon of the black hole in the middle of Milky Way galaxy as you read this sentence. Of course. This can happen only if the universe keeps on expanding until...everything disintegrates. All matters become energy, which spread evenly across the universe (entropy max and enthapy none).
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2006-04-21, 21:02 | Link #14 |
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talking of time theories, my favourite one, is that time will always gowe the way it's suppose to go, (anti-paradox) in that only major event changes at critical key points can change history.
i.e. if you kill some person, that was insignificant. time will eventually correct that anomally, it will not have what some people suggest a "domino" or "butterfly" effect. but if you say kill someone who will eventually shape a world, then that timeline will change.
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2006-04-21, 22:04 | Link #16 |
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^ Butterfly effect, was it? The movie showed how just small changes in the past affected the future in a myriad of ways.
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"Son, if you ever travel back in time (Why would anyone tell that to their son on their wedding day? ) don't touch ANYTHING" I was discussing time paradoxes with my history professor and she noted the only way to do that is to basically get drunk. Though I'm curious where the show is going with this route, are they just going to be doing the episodes randomly? |
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As to how the anime itself is going to handle this... who knows? As was speculated by Sushi-Y in the Episode Prediction/Speculation thread, they may just rearrange things in chronological order - thus the supposed 'skipping' of the 2nd novel some people who obviously haven't read the novels were frothing at the mouth against.
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Tell me of one thing that exists that hasn't been abused? The blame isn't on Time Travel, but on the irresponsible people. You can't un-invent something that has been discovered. All that will happen is that only the irresponsible people will get to use the banned technologies, because those who do follow the rules are the only ones who will listen to the rules.
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2006-04-21, 23:07 | Link #20 |
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Yes, but the possibilities of time travel could increase the number of irresponsible people, seeing as they can just as easily go back and do something they had to do that they didn't do.
*erm* As long as events don't seem too awkward or chaotic, I don't think having episodes shown at random are that bad. For people who haven't read the novels (like me), I don't think they'd (we'd) notice any jump. |
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