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ApathyEcstasy · 2007-05-29, 10:03

the game is still infinitely superior to the show, play it if you haven't yet

jimbo98765 · 2007-05-29, 10:25

how to acquire the game is the question, my dear lad. personally i just like shirou and saber. i dont like to be over critical of something or compare it to something. besides, it was a h game. they got limited flexability and 24 episodes max.

Xellos-_^ · 2007-05-29, 11:04

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Originally Posted by jimbo98765

how to acquire the game is the question, my dear lad. personally i just like shirou and saber. i dont like to be over critical of something or compare it to something. besides, it was a h game. they got limited flexability and 24 episodes max.

The game has H scenes but those are very very limited. 99% of the game is H scene free. And you can still order form shops in Japan, unlike Tsukihime it is still in print. Also Mirror-Moon has just finish the translation patch for the Fate and is currently working on the Unlimited Blade Work and Heavenly Feel route.

iamandragon · 2007-05-29, 13:54

And you can also get the PSP game, which has voices to help you understand the dialogs if you can't read Japanese(like me) but can understand Japanese when spoken.

iamthebest22 · 2007-05-31, 21:15

Ummm , I've always wanted to ask this, but in Episode 21, in the part right after they
kissed each other, she say "my mana is now replenished, I can now fight as your servant again." Did they ummmmmm..... AH fine I'll say it (can't believe I'm still shy about saying it even though I'm 19 years old ><) HAVE SEX???

iamandragon · 2007-05-31, 23:41

Well in the anime? No. In the game, YES! And Saber looks good with her hair down!(I can't believe I am not shy about saying it even though I am 17)

iamthebest22 · 2007-06-01, 00:56

Really????? gimme the video gimme the video!!! Lol :P na don't, I like the Saber in the anime, and i hate hentai.

iamandragon · 2007-06-01, 06:05

lol the game is a visual novel, so it's only a few CG. You really should try the game, even if you don't understand Japanese, as it's quality is top notch amongst all galgames. And now that the English patch is out, there's even less excuse to it! With the UBW and HF scripts due out, you can get even more understanding of the story!

jimbo98765 · 2007-06-01, 07:41

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Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

The game has H scenes but those are very very limited. 99% of the game is H scene free. And you can still order form shops in Japan, unlike Tsukihime it is still in print. Also Mirror-Moon has just finish the translation patch for the Fate and is currently working on the Unlimited Blade Work and Heavenly Feel route.

You mean Tsukihime has stop production? Damn. Where you get your sig from? Beast's Lair also provide translation but I dont know if its on patch.

iamandragon · 2007-06-01, 11:01

where apart from the official shops, there are many other places you can obtain a copy of the game, for example ebay. *cough* do not ask for downloads in the forum *cough*

Xellos-_^ · 2007-06-01, 12:09

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Originally Posted by jimbo98765

You mean Tsukihime has stop production? Damn. Where you get your sig from? Beast's Lair also provide translation but I dont know if its on patch.

Tsukihime was a release made originally when Type-Moon was a Doujin Group not a offical company. The number of official Games made was very limited, it was never release by Type-Moon. I believed they pop now and again on yahoo auction japan and sold for price ranging form $300 to $500 depending on condition of the box.

Type-Moon first official release as a real company was either Melty Blood or Fate Stay Night. Both are still in print. The company started with the money they made form Tsukihime.

iamthebest22 · 2007-06-01, 20:11

Damn it! Ever since iamandragon told me that saber does DO it in the game (I'm serious though, I get shy whenever i mention the word) I would be walking around and BOOM.... The thought of saber doing that gets in my head! ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I'm going crazy. I need to get it off my head!!!! Better watch Naruto shippuuden.

P.S. I found the images for the visual novel game. After viewing it, I would like to say, that from now ON I hate HENTAI TO THE BONE! That is just sick! I just can't accept it, it's my own opinion, I'm not directed towards anyone, but I just can't Accept it! Arghh!

BTW I have a question, anyone know what the ending theme SONG to FSN anime is at episode 21?

iamandragon · 2007-06-02, 09:19

It's good to be young...and innocent. Don't worry about it everyone has different preference.

And they change over time, I assure you

iamthebest22 · 2007-06-02, 10:49

OI DOES anyone know the NAME for the ending theme song for episode 21?

mlai · 2007-06-02, 11:47

There's an unique ending theme for 21???

I can accept her and Shirou because I like Shirou and I think they're perfect together. Now, if she was raped by tentacles and such nonsense, then I'd be unhappy.

Xellos-_^ · 2007-06-02, 11:47

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Originally Posted by iamthebest22

Damn it! Ever since iamandragon told me that saber does DO it in the game (I'm serious though, I get shy whenever i mention the word) I would be walking around and BOOM.... The thought of saber doing that gets in my head! ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I'm going crazy. I need to get it off my head!!!! Better watch Naruto shippuuden.

P.S. I found the images for the visual novel game. After viewing it, I would like to say, that from now ON I hate HENTAI TO THE BONE! That is just sick! I just can't accept it, it's my own opinion, I'm not directed towards anyone, but I just can't Accept it! Arghh!

BTW I have a question, anyone know what the ending theme SONG to FSN anime is at episode 21?

So young and sop innocent

Don't worry spend enough time here and we will corrupt you

Resistance is futile, you will be one of us

Demongod86 · 2007-06-02, 11:56

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Originally Posted by iamthebest22

Damn it! Ever since iamandragon told me that saber does DO it in the game (I'm serious though, I get shy whenever i mention the word) I would be walking around and BOOM.... The thought of saber doing that gets in my head! ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I'm going crazy. I need to get it off my head!!!! Better watch Naruto shippuuden.

P.S. I found the images for the visual novel game. After viewing it, I would like to say, that from now ON I hate HENTAI TO THE BONE! That is just sick! I just can't accept it, it's my own opinion, I'm not directed towards anyone, but I just can't Accept it! Arghh!

BTW I have a question, anyone know what the ending theme SONG to FSN anime is at episode 21?

QFT. Saber ecchi and Rider ecchi and Caster ecchi are very thx. But hentai is just disgusting. That said, hentai is evil evil evil. Ecchi is very thx though.

iamandragon · 2007-06-02, 12:43

I only remember an independent ED for episode 14, where Archer died *cries*, but for episode 21? Can someone recap me on what happened so I might be able to recall?

iamthebest22 · 2007-06-02, 20:50

No no no I'm asking the song at the end of episode 21 which is really the song for before the preview comes for episode 16-21 i think. (I'm 19 THAT"S not really young, after all iamandragon is 17!!! and she likes it!) No offence meant or anything like that.

P.S. I will resist the lure of the dark forces, for I am Luke Skywalker!!!!! Lol

mlai · 2007-06-02, 23:36

My opinion on seeing a beloved character engage in "demeaning" acts:

I don't see it as demeaning for a fictional character to engage in acts of love with the person she loves. If she's sleeping around, or cheating, or is being raped by demons and says something like "OMG I know I'm being raped but why does it feel so good?" then I take issue with it.

I also don't see a problem because the 4th wall isn't broken. The character isn't acting for your arousal/benefit; he/she has no idea you (or anybody) are watching. This is different from porn (with real actors) where you know the actors are aware they're being watched/filmed, and therefore those actors (and therefore the characters, by association) lose all integrity in your eyes.

However, regarding FSN specifically, in the H scenes Shirou gave me the feeling that he was more aroused by the domination he had over the girls, than any love he felt for the girls. I had complained about this before, and the answer was "Well if Shirou was too tender and loving, then the atmosphere of the sanctity of love would be too great, and would make the viewer/reader feel too guilty/embarassed to be aroused by it."

However, maybe Jpnese readers complained about the same thing... because I feel the situation became a little better in Hollow Ataraxia H scenes. Shirou seemed to actually care a bit more, even though as a rule you still can't see his face and kissing is still not allowed. I guess like Julia Robert said, kissing = definitive show of love, and we can't have that around in H scenes.

2007-06-01, 20:11	Link #232
iamthebest22 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Damn it! Ever since iamandragon told me that saber does DO it in the game (I'm serious though, I get shy whenever i mention the word) I would be walking around and BOOM.... The thought of saber doing that gets in my head! ARGHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I'm going crazy. I need to get it off my head!!!! Better watch Naruto shippuuden. P.S. I found the images for the visual novel game. After viewing it, I would like to say, that from now ON I hate HENTAI TO THE BONE! That is just sick! I just can't accept it, it's my own opinion, I'm not directed towards anyone, but I just can't Accept it! Arghh! BTW I have a question, anyone know what the ending theme SONG to FSN anime is at episode 21? Last edited by iamthebest22; 2007-06-01 at 22:15.

2007-05-29, 10:03	Link #221
ApathyEcstasy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: USA	the game is still infinitely superior to the show, play it if you haven't yet

2007-05-29, 10:25	Link #222
jimbo98765 Member Join Date: Jul 2006	how to acquire the game is the question, my dear lad. personally i just like shirou and saber. i dont like to be over critical of something or compare it to something. besides, it was a h game. they got limited flexability and 24 episodes max.

2007-05-29, 13:54	Link #224
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	And you can also get the PSP game, which has voices to help you understand the dialogs if you can't read Japanese(like me) but can understand Japanese when spoken.

2007-05-31, 21:15	Link #225
iamthebest22 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Ummm , I've always wanted to ask this, but in Episode 21, in the part right after they kissed each other, she say "my mana is now replenished, I can now fight as your servant again." Did they ummmmmm..... AH fine I'll say it (can't believe I'm still shy about saying it even though I'm 19 years old ><) HAVE SEX???

2007-05-31, 23:41	Link #226
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	Well in the anime? No. In the game, YES! And Saber looks good with her hair down!(I can't believe I am not shy about saying it even though I am 17)

2007-06-01, 00:56	Link #227
iamthebest22 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	Really????? gimme the video gimme the video!!! Lol :P na don't, I like the Saber in the anime, and i hate hentai.

2007-06-01, 06:05	Link #228
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	lol the game is a visual novel, so it's only a few CG. You really should try the game, even if you don't understand Japanese, as it's quality is top notch amongst all galgames. And now that the English patch is out, there's even less excuse to it! With the UBW and HF scripts due out, you can get even more understanding of the story!

2007-06-01, 11:01	Link #230
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	where apart from the official shops, there are many other places you can obtain a copy of the game, for example ebay. cough do not ask for downloads in the forum cough

2007-06-02, 09:19	Link #233
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	It's good to be young...and innocent. Don't worry about it everyone has different preference. And they change over time, I assure you

2007-06-02, 10:49	Link #234
iamthebest22 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	OI DOES anyone know the NAME for the ending theme song for episode 21?

2007-06-02, 11:47	Link #235
mlai Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	There's an unique ending theme for 21??? I can accept her and Shirou because I like Shirou and I think they're perfect together. Now, if she was raped by tentacles and such nonsense, then I'd be unhappy.

2007-06-02, 12:43	Link #238
iamandragon Martian diplomat Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mars	I only remember an independent ED for episode 14, where Archer died cries, but for episode 21? Can someone recap me on what happened so I might be able to recall?

2007-06-02, 20:50	Link #239
iamthebest22 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007	No no no I'm asking the song at the end of episode 21 which is really the song for before the preview comes for episode 16-21 i think. (I'm 19 THAT"S not really young, after all iamandragon is 17!!! and she likes it!) No offence meant or anything like that. P.S. I will resist the lure of the dark forces, for I am Luke Skywalker!!!!! Lol

2007-06-02, 23:36	Link #240
mlai Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	My opinion on seeing a beloved character engage in "demeaning" acts: I don't see it as demeaning for a fictional character to engage in acts of love with the person she loves. If she's sleeping around, or cheating, or is being raped by demons and says something like "OMG I know I'm being raped but why does it feel so good?" then I take issue with it. I also don't see a problem because the 4th wall isn't broken. The character isn't acting for your arousal/benefit; he/she has no idea you (or anybody) are watching. This is different from porn (with real actors) where you know the actors are aware they're being watched/filmed, and therefore those actors (and therefore the characters, by association) lose all integrity in your eyes. However, regarding FSN specifically, in the H scenes Shirou gave me the feeling that he was more aroused by the domination he had over the girls, than any love he felt for the girls. I had complained about this before, and the answer was "Well if Shirou was too tender and loving, then the atmosphere of the sanctity of love would be too great, and would make the viewer/reader feel too guilty/embarassed to be aroused by it." However, maybe Jpnese readers complained about the same thing... because I feel the situation became a little better in Hollow Ataraxia H scenes. Shirou seemed to actually care a bit more, even though as a rule you still can't see his face and kissing is still not allowed. I guess like Julia Robert said, kissing = definitive show of love, and we can't have that around in H scenes.