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Old 2009-09-28, 04:01   Link #1
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Confucius' Birthday!

Happy Birthday Confucius.

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Old 2009-09-28, 04:33   Link #2
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Have a good 2559th :P.
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Old 2009-09-28, 04:44   Link #3
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Old 2009-09-28, 05:15   Link #4
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Knowledge for the sake of virtue.

Probably the most important of his teachings, yet mostly ignored by the modern world.

Happy birthday you old fart!
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Old 2009-09-28, 05:37   Link #5
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Ignorance is like a night of the mind, a night without moon and stars.
However everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it.

So a dark and empty mind is also a beautiful mind.

For an old man full of idealism (some are quite bull IMO), his teachings continue to survive in a pragmatic world. Happy 2559 old man.
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Old 2009-09-28, 06:41   Link #6
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"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself"
- Analects X.11

Happy Birthday, old friend
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Old 2009-09-28, 16:00   Link #7
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Never liked his teachings. Confucians are ritualistically artificial and notoriously two-faced. His followers might benefit from breaking out of their role-duties and be beings in-themselves.
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Old 2009-09-28, 19:37   Link #8
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Confucius can be taken to extremes, but his teachings are what they are: moral guidance. I study them in the course of learning Chinese characters, and find them quite valuable.
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Old 2009-09-28, 19:57   Link #9
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Happy birthday you old fart

You've taught me well when I was young.
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Old 2009-09-29, 06:50   Link #10
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Merry Christmas Confucius! Did he ever do "kung-fu"?
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:10   Link #11
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Didn't Confucius propagate the misogynistic culture of China?
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:16   Link #12
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Didn't Confucius propagate the misogynistic culture of China?
You can say that for many Chinese philosophers.
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:34   Link #13
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You can say that for many Chinese philosophers.
True, but since he is held in such high esteem, he does more harm than most. I'm actually trying to think of other Chinese philosophers, whom I don't know despite being Chinese myself.
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:35   Link #14
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Well, with him, you take the better parts of his teachings and throw out the lousy parts. Heck, you should do that with almost anything you read.
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:42   Link #15
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True, but since he is held in such high esteem, he does more harm than most. I'm actually trying to think of other Chinese philosophers, whom I don't know despite being Chinese myself.
Is Sun Tzu of the Sun family (from 3 kingdoms) a philosopher?
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:46   Link #16
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Is Sun Tzu of the Sun family (from 3 kingdoms) a philosopher?
From what I've read of The Art of War, it seems more like a book of strategy for achieving military, political, and business goals than a philosophical work.

As for Confucianism, it seems overly repressive, though I would agree that too much freedom (and people thinking that they have rights they don't) would not be conducive to a peaceful society.
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:49   Link #17
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Is Sun Tzu of the Sun family (from 3 kingdoms) a philosopher?
The Sun family of RotTK claims at least once that they're descended from him or at least related.
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Old 2009-09-29, 10:52   Link #18
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From what I've read of The Art of War, it seems more like a book of strategy for achieving military, political, and business goals than a philosophical work.
So he never did philosophy?

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The Sun family of RotTK claims at least once that they're descended from him or at least related.
So its not proven that he's actually from that family? What connections does Confucius have to RotTK (direct or indirect family contact please not from philosophy.)?
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Old 2009-09-29, 11:09   Link #19
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So he never did philosophy?
Some people consider it an expression of Taoism, but then again anything could be considered a philosophy.
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Old 2009-09-29, 12:46   Link #20
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I would agree that too much freedom (and people thinking that they have rights they don't) would not be conducive to a peaceful society.
The thing is, there's no such thing as "too much freedom". It's either there is or there's none.
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