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willx · 2012-09-14, 11:03

Haha.. this thread always reminds me of this:

RRW · 2012-09-14, 11:42

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A pioneering team from IBM in Zurich has published single-molecule images so detailed that the type of atomic bonds between their atoms can be discerned.

The same team took the first-ever single-molecule image in 2009 and more recently published images of a molecule shaped like the Olympic rings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19584301

j0x · 2012-09-15, 00:58

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Japan on Friday said it planned to phase out nuclear power over three decades in an apparent bow to public pressure after last year's Fukushima disaster, the worst atomic accident in a generation

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-09-japan-p...nergy.html#jCp

why Japan is not looking at Thorium Nuclear Reactors? that is far more safer and cheaper - http://youtu.be/nYxlpeJEKmw

Ithekro · 2012-09-15, 01:14

It still has the word "nuclear" in it. People don't look much farther than that usually. One could sell them Antimatter reactors and be considered safe just because it doesn't say nuclear.

NoemiChan · 2012-09-15, 01:18

The same goes in the Philippines... Thanks to Chernobyl (if I'm not mistaken), our dream to have a nuclear power collapse together with Marcos...

Damn activist, thank you for you degenerative reforms!!!

Ithekro · 2012-09-15, 01:23

If you could come up with a catching sci-fi sounding name that didn't use the word "nuclear" you might be able to sell the new reactors to the public. If you can convince the Japanese it is a Wave Motion Reactor (for example) by the way the heat is generated or whatever, you would probably get them to buy into it.

Don't lie...just market it without the words "nuclear" and "atomic" (and probably "fusion" or "fission" since those have nuclear vibes) "Reactor" might be off limits as well, but with sci-fi soundy words they might ignore that one.

NoemiChan · 2012-09-15, 01:25

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Don't lie...just market it without the words "nuclear" and "atomic" (and probably "fusion" or "fission" since those have nuclear vibes)

Thanks to media... it'll be exposed so soon that it'll be spoiled to the public...

aohige · 2012-09-15, 01:26

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Originally Posted by j0x

why Japan is not looking at Thorium Nuclear Reactors? that is far more safer and cheaper - http://youtu.be/nYxlpeJEKmw

Are you talking about LFTR?
They are touted as cheap, efficient, and high energy output for less waste, but they also are stll in R&D phase. There's no product out for it, and no proof of its theorhetial claims yet.

And btw, LFTR does come up in nuclear discussions constantly in Japan.

Ithekro · 2012-09-15, 01:28

For Japan at least, make it sound Gundam-y enough and they'll at least try it.

j0x · 2012-09-15, 03:03

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Originally Posted by aohige

Are you talking about LFTR?
They are touted as cheap, efficient, and high energy output for less waste, but they also are stll in R&D phase. There's no product out for it, and no proof of its theorhetial claims yet.

And btw, LFTR does come up in nuclear discussions constantly in Japan.

yep the video is about LFTR too and China is already on the way to making one
LFTR is a complete new Nuclear Reactor that uses Thorium but if you watch that video then existing Traditional Nuclear Reactors can be converted to a Thorium Nuclear Reactor too

and nice to know that Japanese are aware of Thorium base Nuclear Reactors then at least that can spark motivation for them to make it since Thorium Nuclear Reactors is not really a new concept

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

The same goes in the Philippines... Thanks to Chernobyl (if I'm not mistaken), our dream to have a nuclear power collapse together with Marcos...

Damn activist, thank you for you degenerative reforms!!!

agreed the Philippines is so poor today because of old politicians doing... our governments quality is reflected on the quality of votes too most filipinos tend to vote enterntainers (actors/actresses/popularity) rather than achievers

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Don't lie...just market it without the words "nuclear" and "atomic" (and probably "fusion" or "fission" since those have nuclear vibes) "Reactor" might be off limits as well, but with sci-fi soundy words they might ignore that one.

sadly that is true but people have to learn that Nuclear Power has 2 kinds one is the traditional Nuclear Fission that is easy to made but dangerous to environment and prone to meltdown and the other one is Nuclear Fusion the power that is same as the Sun or the Stars so this is the most safest and environment-friendly power yet but sadly its science is still not yet matured enough, i will be surprised if in my lifetime that Nuclear Fusion Reactors can be made

EDIT:

i talked to early looks like Nuclear Fusion Reactors will become reality in the year 2020 starting in France - http://phys.org/news/2012-06-big-nuc...ion-power.html

aohige · 2012-09-15, 03:17

Japanese industries do not invest in unproven, non-existent products.
This is apparent in pretty much ever corner of conservative Japanese investment.
(The exception to the rule is when it's developed and researched by the said Japanese companies from the ground up)

I know India and China are both working to get one started.
Well good for them.

When one is up and running for a decade or so, give them a call.

Jinto · 2012-09-15, 07:18

LFTR's major issue is the complicated fuel reprocessing on site. The improved worst case scenario situation with such reactors was not an issue for a long time, since the nuclear power lobby all around the world was completely certain that their 1 worst case in 10.000 to 10.000.000 reactor years estimation for light water reactors (the safer option of uranium based reactors) would mean no significantly elevated security risk compared to thorium fueled reactors.

In the whole world there exist 435 operating nuclear power plants. Most of them light water reactors of the types BWR and PWR. So, considering two of the major 3 incidents were light water reactor incidents one can estimate the lower margin of 10.000 years is more likely correct.

And when you consider this lower margin to be closer to reality, you wonder what the increasing of the count of such reactors world wide actually means. Should 1.000 of these reactors operate world wide, then statistically you would have to fear one major incident every decade (somewhere in the world).

With such prospects and the really bad PR that it creates, the nuclear power lobby seems finally willing to consider safer options over simpler, less complicated work flows in continuous operating nuclear power plants. (Another aspect is, that most nuclear powers already have enough bombs now).

DonQuigleone · 2012-09-15, 10:07

I'm all for nuclear power, but obviously it needs to be safe. The only problem is that voters don't tend to be so open-minded...

It's got to be better then oil or coal power though. Those things are dirty dirty dirty.

kyp275 · 2012-09-15, 16:36

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Originally Posted by DonQuigleone

I'm all for nuclear power, but obviously it needs to be safe. The only problem is that voters don't tend to be so open-minded...

It's got to be better then oil or coal power though. Those things are dirty dirty dirty.

Pretty much, more people die every year from oil/coal power than has ever died with nuclear, and releases more radioactive materials to boot.

But that's ok though, 'cause they don't have a scary word like nuclear in their name

Jinto · 2012-09-15, 16:44

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Originally Posted by kyp275

Pretty much, more people die every year from oil/coal power than has ever died with nuclear, and releases more radioactive materials to boot.

But that's ok though, 'cause they don't have a scary word like nuclear in their name

And thats by application of scale utter nonesense!

AnimeFan188 · 2012-09-15, 19:06

NASA Turns to 3D Printing for Self-Building Spacecraft:

"Spacecraft could build themselves or huge space telescopes someday by
scavenging materials from space junk or asteroids. That wild vision stems
from a modest proposal to use 3D printing technology aboard a tiny satellite
to create a much larger structure in space."

See:

http://www.space.com/17577-nasa-spac...-printing.html

At last! A productive use for space junk!

Ithekro · 2012-09-15, 19:24

Replicators.

j0x · 2012-09-15, 19:54

3D Printing when become mainstream will be the next best thing since the internet... 3D Printing will make home manufacturing a reality... factories may become obsolete or just irrelevant... researchers already are working on 3D Printing common medicines so that means home made medicines that will be much cheaper are gonna be abundant too... and also piracy will be rampant more imagine GunPla and PVC anime figurines are gonna be 3D Printed at your home just by downloading CAD blueprints on the internet... but ye their is the horror of 3D Printing that home made guns/weapons will go out of hand that may fuel violence

kyp275 · 2012-09-16, 00:51

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

Replicators.

Quick, someone get SG1 on the case!

LoweGear · 2012-09-17, 04:55

YouTube

https://youtu.be/YrLnF7CQ8Ac

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2012-09-15, 01:14	Link #1184
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	It still has the word "nuclear" in it. People don't look much farther than that usually. One could sell them Antimatter reactors and be considered safe just because it doesn't say nuclear. __________________

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	If you could come up with a catching sci-fi sounding name that didn't use the word "nuclear" you might be able to sell the new reactors to the public. If you can convince the Japanese it is a Wave Motion Reactor (for example) by the way the heat is generated or whatever, you would probably get them to buy into it. Don't lie...just market it without the words "nuclear" and "atomic" (and probably "fusion" or "fission" since those have nuclear vibes) "Reactor" might be off limits as well, but with sci-fi soundy words they might ignore that one. __________________

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	For Japan at least, make it sound Gundam-y enough and they'll at least try it. __________________

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aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Japanese industries do not invest in unproven, non-existent products. This is apparent in pretty much ever corner of conservative Japanese investment. (The exception to the rule is when it's developed and researched by the said Japanese companies from the ground up) I know India and China are both working to get one started. Well good for them. When one is up and running for a decade or so, give them a call. __________________

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Jinto Asuki-tan Kairin ↓ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fürth (GER) Age: 43	LFTR's major issue is the complicated fuel reprocessing on site. The improved worst case scenario situation with such reactors was not an issue for a long time, since the nuclear power lobby all around the world was completely certain that their 1 worst case in 10.000 to 10.000.000 reactor years estimation for light water reactors (the safer option of uranium based reactors) would mean no significantly elevated security risk compared to thorium fueled reactors. In the whole world there exist 435 operating nuclear power plants. Most of them light water reactors of the types BWR and PWR. So, considering two of the major 3 incidents were light water reactor incidents one can estimate the lower margin of 10.000 years is more likely correct. And when you consider this lower margin to be closer to reality, you wonder what the increasing of the count of such reactors world wide actually means. Should 1.000 of these reactors operate world wide, then statistically you would have to fear one major incident every decade (somewhere in the world). With such prospects and the really bad PR that it creates, the nuclear power lobby seems finally willing to consider safer options over simpler, less complicated work flows in continuous operating nuclear power plants. (Another aspect is, that most nuclear powers already have enough bombs now). __________________ Folding@Home, Team Animesuki

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willx Nyaaan~~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	Haha.. this thread always reminds me of this:

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NoemiChan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Age: 36	The same goes in the Philippines... Thanks to Chernobyl (if I'm not mistaken), our dream to have a nuclear power collapse together with Marcos... Damn activist, thank you for you degenerative reforms!!!

2012-09-15, 10:07	Link #1193
DonQuigleone Knight Errant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 35	I'm all for nuclear power, but obviously it needs to be safe. The only problem is that voters don't tend to be so open-minded... It's got to be better then oil or coal power though. Those things are dirty dirty dirty.

2012-09-15, 19:06	Link #1196
AnimeFan188 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	NASA Turns to 3D Printing for Self-Building Spacecraft: "Spacecraft could build themselves or huge space telescopes someday by scavenging materials from space junk or asteroids. That wild vision stems from a modest proposal to use 3D printing technology aboard a tiny satellite to create a much larger structure in space." See: http://www.space.com/17577-nasa-spac...-printing.html At last! A productive use for space junk!

2012-09-15, 19:24	Link #1197
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	Replicators. __________________

2012-09-15, 19:54	Link #1198
j0x Giga Drill Breaker Join Date: Jan 2009	3D Printing when become mainstream will be the next best thing since the internet... 3D Printing will make home manufacturing a reality... factories may become obsolete or just irrelevant... researchers already are working on 3D Printing common medicines so that means home made medicines that will be much cheaper are gonna be abundant too... and also piracy will be rampant more imagine GunPla and PVC anime figurines are gonna be 3D Printed at your home just by downloading CAD blueprints on the internet... but ye their is the horror of 3D Printing that home made guns/weapons will go out of hand that may fuel violence

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