2013-06-25, 18:47 | Link #42 |
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That's what we should be finding out now. We got one peek at his past, it shows how they met and that she saved his life, but it doesn't show why he would start a revolution.
Lol maybe we should take this to L-Elf thread or the speculation thread. Sorry, if I'm derailing the thread.
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2013-06-25, 19:04 | Link #44 |
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Well, Kyuuma was said to have many female friends and be a flirt. But he only had eyes for Aina.
Thunder was a bully. Bullies seek to assert themselves. He also wanted power to avenge his friend. Akira has a fear of people. I think she would like to make friends, but she's terrified of doing so.
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2013-06-26, 04:01 | Link #48 |
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You missed that Shoko and L-Elf are getting closer together and due to circumstances they're growing as characters because of the other.
- Haruto is a teenager, it's far easier for him to confess to Saki as it's the right thing to do(responsibility) as he doesn't actually have to feel like he's making a choice while with Shoko it's harder as he loves her but he sees himself as a monster and that he feels that he doesn't deserve someone amazing like her. |
2013-06-27, 23:21 | Link #49 |
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Okay, trying to wrap my head into this...
The "Kid" -seems to be royalty, considering how extravagant his house is -most probably like crown prince or something relatively important, as that's a relatively -remember, it's the Third Galactic Reich/Empire, meaning that if they're counting years in that fashion, the country that is most in control must be a monarchy And the only 'royalty' that has been confirmed this season? The one and only Liselotte. So there's a pretty darn good chance that she is the ancestor, as I find it unlikely they would start the royalty anew being that JIOR/Arus are democratic and Dorssia overthrew (or at least coup d'etat) the previous rulers... hence, the new country if it didn't already have a royal blood line wouldn't have been a monarchy. But wait, Saki referred to the "Founder" as "The first of us", and the first 'vampire' is Haruto. As such, Haruto must have been the first ruler of this empire, if we're operating on the assumption that the founder is the first ruler. Therefore, the most logical conclusion we can get to is that Haruto marries Liz. LOL, I know right? Sounds pretty preposterous considering that Haruto hasn't even met Liz in person for half the season. (For the record, it's this scenario is where L-ElfxShoko is at its strongest, since the Kid is the spitting image of L-Elf so one of his desendants MUST have mingled with Haruto's. While this means L-ELf can technically have anyone as a wife and still fulfill the requirements, it's just L-Elf has close to nil interaction with the female sex outside of Liz and Shoko.) Of course this is all assuming that the Founder was the first ruler. Could've been very well that even though Haruto was the Founder, the first ruler could've been L-Elf because Haruto died (yes I almost dead sure that Haruto is dead in the Galctic Empire Timeline... you know with him wanting to undo his 'vampire curse' and all). It's also under the assumption that the new dominant country has its royalty not made anew with a fresh bloodline. Because if it is, then anyone but Saki (more on this later) is fair game to be Haruto's wife. And if this is the case, then Shoko is pretty much the best candidate as she's far ahead of relationships with Haruto outside of arguably Saki. Why not Saki? Think about it, if Haruto married Saki, and Haruto is the founder, wouldn't Saki be like THE Queen of the empire. Even if Haruto wasn't the first ruler of the Empire, wouldn't still that mean she's the wife of the Founder? Why the heck is such an important figure sitting on a wooden chair when the kid is in a comfy chair with plenty of cushions to have around (eps 12), and more importantly, is still in the front lines battling out with the enemy (eps 7)? No, I'm more inclined to think that Saki would promise 'not immortal anymore but I have regained my humanity back' Haruto something about protecting the empire he founded and/or taking care of his descendants (remember that she got reminded of the promise as she was shooting down an enemy). Because if it was HER descendants, why even need to make a promise as that would pretty much be a given? So yeah, whatever has had happened or whatever clues thaat were put in the show, there is no presonal speculation I am more sure of. Whoever Haruto's future wife will be, it will NOT be Saki.
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2013-06-27, 23:38 | Link #52 |
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Saki is going to win.. eventually because she turned down the proposal. That's a huge flag in her favor.
Also because Haruto is caught in a certain momentum. Haruto is caught in a process where he is becoming less and less the Haruto that Shoko is familiar with. Not just physically but mentally as well. And if you believe the previews he will take one step further and volunteer to accelerate the process This will further isolate him from humans and the only way Shoko can breach that is to become magius herself. But it's a lose lose situation because doing that throws her unique advantage of being a connection to the human side. But I'm not sure if even that is an option for Shoko, because she is kept in a dark regarding Valvrave matters and she is unaware that there is even a love triangle to began with. and I've watched enough love triangles to know that not being aware the love triangle is a huge disadvantage. I really think this is going the Rumbling Hearts / Kimi ga Nozomu Eien route
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2013-06-28, 00:01 | Link #53 |
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Like I said in another thread :
''My prediction this anime is going to pull a Aquarion EVOL on us with the pairings and possibly the stories I guarantee it, Saki is going to be the next Zessica. :'( Since this anime makes me feel like i'm watching Aquarion Evol all over again, I'll watch it but with low expectations for the ending.'' Now that I think about it a lot of things from Valverave remind me of Aquarion EVOL 1. 4 protagonists - Haruto = Amata, Shouko = Mikonos, L-Elf = (damn forgot his name), Saki = Zessica (My Waifu) 2. Shouko's Mary Sueness and usefulness (or lack thereof) reaching Mikonos level. 3. Saki being set up as the tragic heroine (we know it's coming) I'm sure you guys can find more things these two have in common than me, well have at it. XD (sits down and grabs his popcorn and waits for the replies) |
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2013-06-28, 00:13 | Link #56 | |
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And I'll never understand the Saki-Zessica comparisons. It always seemed obvious to me that the latter was a plot device to draw out the real couple hooking up. Saki clearly has more than that going for her, IMO. |
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I'm looking forward to the development between Haruto and saki, also next proposal he better get it right! Shoko still has some chance but drama is inevitable when Haruto is the one who killed her father. |
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Plot twist: Saki is the one who proposes to him in the second season.
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