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risingstar3110 · 2013-07-21, 01:08

I'm fairly certain the type of fire which burnt the school is different with what burned Hanakawa's house. They were just tricking us so we thought it is from the same cause. This case there was ashes, but no fire, siren and the like

By Mayoi hindsight, Araragi disappearances, Shinobu's mention on how Araragi may get killed....i suspect this arc is right now running along another arc from Araragi's POV. So most likely the cat and Shinobu will part way later, and Hanakawa has to deal with the tiger, while Araragi dealing with something Mayoi-related.

All is my guess through

Dawn · 2013-07-21, 09:59

Overall an enjoyable episode. Shinobu is so damn moe you cant help but smile.

Im kind of dissapointed that so much of the dialogue and introspection is all done to the backdrop of naked Hanekawa + whoever else they can get in the scene.
I know it's written that way in the LN but I do prefer when they use their creativity and unusual art to keep it fresh.
That being said I love the series to bits; fan service and all. I'm sure some guys are missing plot points in the subtitles while err, more exciting things are happening on screen >_<

Can't wait for next EPISODE Should be interesting.

GDiddy · 2013-07-21, 11:37

I have a question though that keeps picking at me:

Is this version of Neko Hanekawa the same as the one that was in the OVA earlier this year? Because she seems more subdued and more of a good guy while in the OVA

Spoiler:

Otherwise, WTF happened to Tsukihi's hair?!

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-07-21, 12:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDiddy

I have a question though that keeps picking at me:

Is this version of Neko Hanekawa the same as the one that was in the OVA earlier this year? Because she seems more subdued and more of a good guy while in the OVA

Spoiler:

Otherwise, WTF happened to Tsukihi's hair?!

No need for spoiler, the OVA is old news.
Watch the ep again. Shinobu point out the difference between Terminator and Terminator 2. Perhaps you missed it?

Also, Tsukihi change hairstyle constantly.

Malkuth · 2013-07-21, 15:28

lolicons aside, I loved how Tsubasa was squashed between the two sisters in that bathtub, all embarrassed about how her social life is completely out of her control... she just curled up between them unwillingly agreeing to what they were suggesting... direction- and acting-wise that was brilliant, the exact opposite effect on the same background for the scene with Shinobu and Koyomi in Nise-... where most of the viewers paid attention to "the other plot" going on

Now to the main deal of the arc, changing perspective from Koyomi to Tsubasa was a brilliant choice from the writer, because otherwise deconstructive her character would have been impossible. Despite not learning anything new about Tsubasa, it is still so bloody awesome to hear her thoughts and how her insecurities build up, despite her potential... though, I still think that the book would work better, the direction makes up for the medium's incompatibility.

Kaoru Chujo · 2013-07-21, 15:57

Another outstanding episode. The absence of Koyomi allows all the girls to emerge more strongly. Loved Senjougahara's elegantly stilted manner and smooth manipulation. Adored the scene with Shinobu hanging from the ceiling and toying with Hanekawa -- even though I am not 100% on-side with Sakamoto Maaya in the role. I don't feel the edge I want in the voice. Too plain for me.

Hanekawa and her neko-form both seem subdued. After all, human Hanekawa knows that Koyomi and Senjougahara are the item, and she won't get a look in. And the "nyeko" has already been defeated once and knows she can't overcome the vampire. Is this the sense in which she has become "white"? Her carrying the princess was a fine thing. And the blank, queenly look on Shinobu's face as she was flown through the sky was excellent.

Libros · 2013-07-22, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

No need for spoiler, the OVA is old news.
Watch the ep again. Shinobu point out the difference between Terminator and Terminator 2. Perhaps you missed it?

Also, Tsukihi change hairstyle constantly.

I haven't seen the Terminator movies, so the comparison was lost on me. Could someone explain what he meant?

Wigwams · 2013-07-22, 00:25

Well in Terminator 1, the terminator was the bad guy. In Terminator 2, the terminator was the good guy.

Anyway black hanekawa comes out to deal with hanekawa's source of stress. Unlike the previews 2 black hanekawa appearance, this time araragi has nothing to do with it. Its the giant tiger that's causing the stress, thats why you saw black hanekawa confront the tiger, but ended up retreating...

SQA · 2013-07-22, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDiddy

I have a question though that keeps picking at me:

Is this version of Neko Hanekawa the same as the one that was in the OVA earlier this year? Because she seems more subdued and more of a good guy while in the OVA

Spoiler:

Otherwise, WTF happened to Tsukihi's hair?!

OVA was the first time Black Hanekawa shows up, in story. The final arc of Bakemonogatari is the second time. This is the 3rd time. Normal & Black Hanekawa are getting "closer" to each other in each iteration.

Which is why the Terminator reference.

Shadow5YA · 2013-07-22, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Libros

I haven't seen the Terminator movies, so the comparison was lost on me. Could someone explain what he meant?

Spoiler for Extended comparison to the Terminator movies:

blakstealth · 2013-07-22, 12:38

The fact alone that she referenced Terminator just made me rofl so hard. It was the last thing I would've expected to hear from her.

Flower · 2013-07-22, 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakstealth

The fact alone that she referenced Terminator just made me rofl so hard. It was the last thing I would've expected to hear from her.

I also must admit to a

xp followed by a

when I heard this reference.

All that aside - Hanekawa has been my fave chara in this series to begin with (and Horie Yui voicing her certainly helps

) so I have been enjoying the series thus far. Definitely a "keeper".

b10nutz · 2013-07-22, 16:47

I do not know why, but I could not stop myself from laughing at the Terminator reference, anyway it was a pleasure to see Shinobu. Also it seems that Senjougahara still struggles a little with her old self.

blakstealth · 2013-07-22, 20:10

Anyone notice the doodles in Hitagi's textbook? lol

Bakaizer · 2013-07-23, 06:18

araragi must appear as soon as possible

i actually enjoyed the conversations, hopefully we get more action next episode

Helius · 2013-07-23, 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Anyone notice the doodles in Hitagi's textbook? lol

Never would've expected Gahara-sama to be a fan of FMA...tsun tsun dere dere~

NoemiChan · 2013-07-23, 06:30

We got a lot of fan service this season...

00Coyote · 2013-07-23, 07:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helius

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Anyone notice the doodles in Hitagi's textbook? lol

Never would've expected Gahara-sama to be a fan of FMA...tsun tsun dere dere~

That's not the first time she has referenced FMA.

Copper: 40g
Iron: 25g
Nickle: 15g
Concealing embarrassment: 5g
spite: 97kg

Way back in the initial broadcast.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2013-07-23, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by blakstealth

Anyone notice the doodles in Hitagi's textbook? lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helius

Never would've expected Gahara-sama to be a fan of FMA...tsun tsun dere dere~

The FMA author actually drew the doodles herself for this episode. She was given proper credits in the ending sequence.

omimon · 2013-07-23, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

The FMA author actually drew the doodles herself for this episode. She was given proper credits in the ending sequence.

Oh snap you're right. Shaft is really pulling out all the stops.

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2013-07-21, 01:08	Link #21
risingstar3110 ✘˵╹◡╹˶✘ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia	I'm fairly certain the type of fire which burnt the school is different with what burned Hanakawa's house. They were just tricking us so we thought it is from the same cause. This case there was ashes, but no fire, siren and the like By Mayoi hindsight, Araragi disappearances, Shinobu's mention on how Araragi may get killed....i suspect this arc is right now running along another arc from Araragi's POV. So most likely the cat and Shinobu will part way later, and Hanakawa has to deal with the tiger, while Araragi dealing with something Mayoi-related. All is my guess through __________________

2013-07-21, 11:37	Link #23
GDiddy Sisterhood of the Desu Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: in a van by the river	I have a question though that keeps picking at me: Is this version of Neko Hanekawa the same as the one that was in the OVA earlier this year? Because she seems more subdued and more of a good guy while in the OVA Spoiler: she 'killed' Koyomi Otherwise, WTF happened to Tsukihi's hair?! __________________

2013-07-21, 15:57	Link #26
Kaoru Chujo Yuuki Aoi Join Date: Jul 2004	Another outstanding episode. The absence of Koyomi allows all the girls to emerge more strongly. Loved Senjougahara's elegantly stilted manner and smooth manipulation. Adored the scene with Shinobu hanging from the ceiling and toying with Hanekawa -- even though I am not 100% on-side with Sakamoto Maaya in the role. I don't feel the edge I want in the voice. Too plain for me. Hanekawa and her neko-form both seem subdued. After all, human Hanekawa knows that Koyomi and Senjougahara are the item, and she won't get a look in. And the "nyeko" has already been defeated once and knows she can't overcome the vampire. Is this the sense in which she has become "white"? Her carrying the princess was a fine thing. And the blank, queenly look on Shinobu's face as she was flown through the sky was excellent. __________________ YUUKI Aoi 悠木碧. b92.03.27 (age 29). 2008 Kurenai (Murasaki). 2009 Yumeiro Pâtissière (Ichigo), Kiruminzuu (Riko), Yutori-chan (Yutori-chan). 2010 Vampire Bund (Mina Tepeş), Shiki (Sunako), Samurai Girls (Juubee), Pokémon: Black and White (Iris). 2011 Madoka Magica (Madoka), Gosick (Victorique), A-Channel (Tooru). 2012 Symphogear (Hibiki). 2014 Pilot's Love Song (Claire/Nina), Nanatsu no Taizai (Diane). 2015 Owari no Seraph (Krul Tepes), Rokka no Yuusha (Fremy). 2016 Boku no Hero Academia (Tsuyu, Froppy). 2017 Kino no Tabi (Kino). 2021 Kumo desu ga (watashi), Kaizoku Oujo (Karin), Heike Monogatari (Biwa), etc., etc. Total of 513 roles in anime and games.

2013-07-22, 00:25	Link #28
Wigwams Senior Member Join Date: May 2010	Well in Terminator 1, the terminator was the bad guy. In Terminator 2, the terminator was the good guy. Anyway black hanekawa comes out to deal with hanekawa's source of stress. Unlike the previews 2 black hanekawa appearance, this time araragi has nothing to do with it. Its the giant tiger that's causing the stress, thats why you saw black hanekawa confront the tiger, but ended up retreating... __________________ World No. 1

2013-07-21, 09:59	Link #22
Dawn ^o^ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Australia	Overall an enjoyable episode. Shinobu is so damn moe you cant help but smile. Im kind of dissapointed that so much of the dialogue and introspection is all done to the backdrop of naked Hanekawa + whoever else they can get in the scene. I know it's written that way in the LN but I do prefer when they use their creativity and unusual art to keep it fresh. That being said I love the series to bits; fan service and all. I'm sure some guys are missing plot points in the subtitles while err, more exciting things are happening on screen >_< Can't wait for next EPISODE Should be interesting.

2013-07-21, 15:28	Link #25
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	lolicons aside, I loved how Tsubasa was squashed between the two sisters in that bathtub, all embarrassed about how her social life is completely out of her control... she just curled up between them unwillingly agreeing to what they were suggesting... direction- and acting-wise that was brilliant, the exact opposite effect on the same background for the scene with Shinobu and Koyomi in Nise-... where most of the viewers paid attention to "the other plot" going on Now to the main deal of the arc, changing perspective from Koyomi to Tsubasa was a brilliant choice from the writer, because otherwise deconstructive her character would have been impossible. Despite not learning anything new about Tsubasa, it is still so bloody awesome to hear her thoughts and how her insecurities build up, despite her potential... though, I still think that the book would work better, the direction makes up for the medium's incompatibility.

2013-07-22, 12:38	Link #31
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	The fact alone that she referenced Terminator just made me rofl so hard. It was the last thing I would've expected to hear from her.

2013-07-22, 16:47	Link #33
b10nutz Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Iasi, Romania	I do not know why, but I could not stop myself from laughing at the Terminator reference, anyway it was a pleasure to see Shinobu. Also it seems that Senjougahara still struggles a little with her old self.

2013-07-22, 20:10	Link #34
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Anyone notice the doodles in Hitagi's textbook? lol

2013-07-23, 06:18	Link #35
Bakaizer Demon Hunter Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ente Isla	araragi must appear as soon as possible i actually enjoyed the conversations, hopefully we get more action next episode __________________ Friendship and Rivalry. These two have it

2013-07-23, 06:30	Link #37
NoemiChan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Age: 36	We got a lot of fan service this season...