(L) C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control (w/Kenji Nakamura)

[Fiemma]

Originally Posted by .x.crii.x.

I don't know if anybody noticed but, when Msyu holds up her hand for Kimimaro to hold it, its not red, its like a normal human hand. That striked me as odd but maybe it was just a studio error? o.O

Spoiler for studio error?:

Her hands normally:



And the mentioned hand holding scene:

Kimimaro to lose money , due to him losing MSYU certain asset properties

[blewin]

I think it'd have been devastating for Kimimaru if he lost. He hasn't got much money to begin with. But it's weird how he can keep winning when he's only started. That illogic makes this anime less perfect.

[Se7enSword]

Especially against someone with tons of Money and who can easily pay half of Kimimaro's(sp?) account easily. And the fact that he was already owning him right from the beginning and was stopped because of plot armor when Msyu was injured severely.

[physics223]

With a bit of help, I found out that the colors that can be found in Kimimaro's body is actually relevant. The ED and the series follow the CMYK color model, and Nakamura himself admits of that from the QR code of episode 5. And it's really apt in the series.

More pictures and the alternative color analysis in the show can be found here, with examples.

[kk2extreme]

Could it be the fighting sequences are too expensive to be anime? So the studio cut it short instead

[totoum]

Originally Posted by kk2extreme

Could it be the fighting sequences are too expensive to be anime? So the studio cut it short instead

I've heard that the studio was affected by the earthquake and were struggling to keep up with the deadlines,so maybe that has something to with it.

(Source=french stream broadcasters who say they get the completed versions of an episode just a few hours before it airs in japan)

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

Disappointing. The fights suck, and the way the series deals with these ethical issues is just too simplistic to take seriously.

I also think it's kinda cheap that all this people he defeats are rather nice with him about it. It's not that believable, and besides, it would be quite a bit more emotionally challenging for him if they actually blamed him over it.

Maybe some of them do. I wonder what the Financial District does to people who lose so much and decide to get revenge on the winner "in the real world". There certainly seems to be a level of omnipresence and influential power, if even Mikuni's vast fortunes aren't enough to go against the will of the District, forcing him to play in the games rules (albeit with an interesting loophole).

The teacher and the pretty boy lost so much but what can they really do? They played the game and got burned. It's like blaming the other guys at the poker table for the dealer giving you bad cards. Besides, he's angsting enough as it is....I'm not sure I really want to see episodes of him dwelling on the obvious issue of blame (that someone lost and he feels guilty about it).

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Shariq

Especially against someone with tons of Money and who can easily pay half of Kimimaro's(sp?) account easily. And the fact that he was already owning him right from the beginning and was stopped because of plot armor when Msyu was injured severely.

Maybe I am stating the obvious here, but ALL entrepenueurs started little and on their way up they beat the big players at their own games. i.e. Microsoft/Apple/Google/Facebook started with little to no money and look at them now. So no matter how big you are, you can be beaten by the little upstart, unless you are deemed by the goverment as "too big to fail" and are rescued even if you went bankrupt.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Solace

Maybe some of them do. I wonder what the Financial District does to people who lose so much and decide to get revenge on the winner "in the real world".

Maybe, having lost their futures, they can't do anything against people who just won?

[Soconfused]

The fact that Kimimaro won against a guy with a 90-some % win rate makes me sick. I can see if he had thought up a strategy or something, but his goddamn asset had her arms torn off in the first 30 seconds of the fight, then they suddenly come back against all odds to defeat a giant bird angel of death that was kicking their asses? really? I don't think not showing the fight has anything to do with finances, they were just really lazy on the plot and couldn't think of a way Kimimaro could win without it looking ridiculous, so they just decided to sweep it under the rug. Most shounen aren't even that ballsy. Pretty disgusting really.

The fights are starting to feel really "cheap" and uninteresting, and it's not like the protagonist has much in the real world other than his aunt, so I'm hard pressed to care whether he wins or loses, and they aren't ever really interesting, for such an important part of the show they feel really tacked on.

I hope they go back to a Ikuta storyline for at least an episode or two, I found it more interesting than the non stop battles. At least make her an Entre or something.

[Eater of All]

Darn, I was sure Kimimaro and Msyu would pull one of those mysterious macroflation things to turn the tide. Instead, we get a one line explanation about what happened.

Originally Posted by Soconfused

The fights are starting to feel really "cheap" and uninteresting, and it's not like the protagonist has much in the real world other than his aunt, so I'm hard pressed to care whether he wins or loses, and they aren't ever really interesting, for such an important part of the show they feel really tacked on.

I agree about the fights being uninteresting and could've been handled better, but as physics mentioned, it is shifting focus away from this aspect exactly because it believes it is no longer an important part of the show.

[maplehurry]

On another tangent, Souichiro and the Starling Guild are fast creating a situation eerily similar to "moral hazard". By knowingly distorting the risks inherent in FD deals, they are unwittingly building a tottering monstrosity that has become "too big to fail".

Doesn't it also create "moral hazard" if Kimimaro destroys the FD altogether ?

[ipodi]

Originally Posted by maplehurry

Doesn't it also create "moral hazard" if Kimimaro destroys the FD altogether ?

There is no moral hazard when an organization is destroyed due to its own rules.

[Master_Yoma]

What a rip off they didnt even show the inter fight sigh

[tyciol]

This just seems really cool.

[Proto]

Maybe if people stopped thinking of the series as an action one and instead as an idea one everything would start making much more sense.

[physics223]

Kimimaro's monologue on the official site, translated:

Yoga Kimimaro
The words that man said. That the true thrill of deals is not in winning or losing. It`s creating, without losing too much or winning too much, the maximum amount of profit while still taking into consideration the effects on the world around you.
I believed those words.
To accept your destiny of living in this district, and to avoid bringing misfortune to those around you.
That that was the right thing.
There`s no mistake about it, he said.
I was completely convinced.
But Sennoza, he rejected the things that man says and does.
He said that if all that’s left is a hopeless future, there’s no meaning for the present.
What does that mean?
How is it different from what that man says?
If the objective is to diminish the effects on the real world, aren’t they doing the same thing?
But that man says there’s a difference.
He says that’s the reasoning of the big fish.
I couldn’t understand it.
And so I had to fight. That was my only option.
However I do not feel as if I won.
I was supposed to be fighting for the people around me, but maybe that was wrong.
If Mashu is the representation of my future… If Mashu is the future that was lost…
It’s not about sacrificing the present to protect the future, it’s about returning to the future what was supposed to be there from the start.
I don’t understand.
What is right, and what is wrong.
What am I meant to do?

This really isn't an action series. Make of that what you may.

[Forsaken_Infinity]

Besides, did you guys really not see that skip coming? It was beyond obvious that they were going to skip the comeback before the fight even started.

[sapphire-pyro]

Finally saw episode 6 but I'm more in the mood to fangurl than to think right now, hahahahaha!

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

Nope, it represents "falling in love" with your own company. Think about it, the average japanese entrepreneur gives more time to his company than to his wife (and children, if any) in his lifetime. The same probably applies all over the world, the more money you are responsible of, the more time you have to spend taking care of it (otherwise you will lose it).

"Falling in love" with your company gives me negative impressions though x_x If Kimimaro falling in love with his Asset is the same as Mikuni's father caring for his company more than his daughter... that's.... kinda... X_X

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

IMO it was a nice touch not showing the fight end, they are clearly saying "we have no Naruto like gimmicks and we are not going in depth about how the fight mechanics works, if he say he wins or loses that is the end of the story". AFAIK they did not show how the fight with the spider thing ended (a win most likely).

I feel the same way. I think you can't ever appreciate this series if you only see it as an action show (though I think it's totally not from the very beginning.)

@physics223
Thanks for sharing the translation of Kimimaro's monologue *_* And oh wow... the meaning of those colors in the ED made me even more amazed with the series O_O

[Calca]

Personally I think as Kimimaro wins more and gets more money, MSYU's boobs should grow accordingly