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Old 2020-09-15, 02:13   Link #861
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^Waccha talking about?

She was the MC's crush, love interest, and recurrent character for most of story

That's where you are biased because you know the ending already
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Old 2020-09-15, 11:54   Link #862
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Doesn’t make Risa the main heroine though. She’s just a satellite love interest until even that is replaced by Riku and her developing relationship with daisuke. Neither her nor riku have any focus until then. A sli though doesn’t make a main heroine. It’s just a plot device.
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Old 2020-09-15, 12:11   Link #863
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^Risa was the main heroine and that's final
Readers opinions are secondary, refer to the 1st post criterias for main heroine selection

adding manga Majo no Geboku to Maou no Tsuno
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Old 2020-09-15, 17:49   Link #864
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^Risa was the main heroine and that's final
Readers opinions are secondary, refer to the 1st post criterias for main heroine selection

adding manga Majo no Geboku to Maou no Tsuno
Isn’t that just your opinion as a reader? Have the author explicitly stated that risa was the main heroine?

1. Has her name in the title or something referring to her (Toradora, Yuragi Yuuna, Zero no Tsukaima, Hidan no Aria) -nonfor either

2. Is the cover for Volume 1 or and in the One-Shot- no For either

3. Is beside the MC in the promotional pictures- no or both for promo art

4. Simply the first to meet and join the MC (Not always, but most of the time in adventure stories)- both sisters were featured in the first episode.

5. Simply has the most screentime risa no / riku yes

6. Has something that makes her inseparable from MC (Join Piloting, Life Sharing, Contract, Etc)- clearly not since they are rarely together and he moves on relatively quickly with Riku

7. Is central to the plot of the story, or even she herself is the plot. - only initially before he moved on. Riku is a yes overall.

8. The author said that she's the main heroine - not that I am aware of.

9. The only one, who is allowed to do nothing and win - has she won anything?

10. Usually the crush of the MC unless overridden by previous points- yes initially, No just as quickly. First crush =/= main heroine. Common story trope of guy moving on.

11. The decision on who's the main heroine should be taken within the first few chapters / episodes / volumes - she rejected daisuke, riku was kissed by him and quickly gained an interest in him.

Dark is more the main heroine than Risa but he is a guy lol
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Old 2020-09-16, 08:17   Link #865
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^Don't judge overall

I'm the thread maker, so I make the final decision

I want DN Angel in this thread

I'm trying to promote great romance series here

If I accepted Riku as main heroine then I have to delete it from this thread
Then it won't get promoted
Do you understand?
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Old 2020-09-16, 12:36   Link #866
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^Don't judge overall

I'm the thread maker, so I make the final decision

I want DN Angel in this thread

I'm trying to promote great romance series here

If I accepted Riku as main heroine then I have to delete it from this thread
Then it won't get promoted
Do you understand?
The thread isn't "Great romance stories people should read" though. Heck, you listed Dragon ball that has zero romance other than characters getting together during timeskips.
If you start twisting rules and definitions because you want to list series you like the thread is gonna lose its purpose.
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Old 2020-09-16, 13:20   Link #867
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^Nonono

I maybe a little liberal with the rules, but none of these titles are straightforward romance stories

All of them have "Heroine Switch" factor

People argue about who's the main heroine all the time so can't please everyone

Lemme give an example about a manga similar to DN Angel in settings
Alive: The Final Evolution

MC's crush only appeared very little and most of the time the "main heroine spot" is filled by Nami
But despite that, at the very end the crush reappeared and won
So it's like if Risa won in DN Angel

You can't have both DN Angel and Alive in this thread because they have opposite results
I say this now, Alive's Ending sucks, Nami should've won

Anyway, in Alive there's no "heroine switch", MC loved only the crush till the end
Not that case in DN Angel

Maybe some people will say "then the thread title should be Heroine Switch", but this will bring new problem like people arguing she and she not heroine like in Helck
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Old 2020-09-16, 15:26   Link #868
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Uhm, a question,when you talk about main heroine it's implied she has to be a love interest at least at some points through the story?
Because the way I always interpreted this thread, I'd say a series like Alive should qualify, at least from the description (I never read it so I might miss something, of course).
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Old 2020-09-16, 21:56   Link #869
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^If you just read Alive, you'd understand

But that's the problem, except the obvious romcom harem, no author specifies the main heroine

In Naruto, Sakura is both love interest and main heroine
But in Bleach, Rukia never felt like a love interest, so is Akame in Akame ga Kill, but most people expected they would win the romance if any

So anyway, that's about it
In DN Angel, while Riku gains more ground each episode, but we can't shake the feeling that Risa might still win because most anime at that time has the MC and the crush get together
In Alive tho, the one expected to win won, so the decision is obvious
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Old 2020-09-16, 22:30   Link #870
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^If you just read Alive, you'd understand

But that's the problem, except the obvious romcom harem, no author specifies the main heroine

In Naruto, Sakura is both love interest and main heroine
But in Bleach, Rukia never felt like a love interest, so is Akame in Akame ga Kill, but most people expected they would win the romance if any

So anyway, that's about it
In DN Angel, while Riku gains more ground each episode, but we can't shake the feeling that Risa might still win because most anime at that time has the MC and the crush get together
In Alive tho, the one expected to win won, so the decision is obvious
That doesn’t make her a main heroine though. Just a potential love interest. Risa didn’t play any serious role other than to chase dark and reject daisuke. Initial impressions aren’t indicative of being a main heroine. She failed to play any significant role in the short run or long run outside of being solely the initial love interest. There is plenty of anime where the main character has an initial crush but moves on with the main heroine. Even in the first few episodes, Riku shows more interest in daisuke than Risa.
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Old 2020-09-17, 04:48   Link #871
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^My decision is final on this
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Old 2020-09-17, 10:37   Link #872
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^ What is your decision on DomeKano then?

Sekai ka Kanojo ka Erabanai also ended recently, so... let's continue the argument
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Old 2020-09-17, 10:41   Link #873
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^Has Domekano ended? Rui is the main heroine

Sekai ka Kanojo ka Erabanai, what a shit show, Ayumi worst girl
Jindou should've won
She sacrificed everything just to give victory to privileged main heroine

@tenzen below yes
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Old 2020-09-17, 10:41   Link #874
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That doesn’t make her a main heroine though. Just a potential love interest. Risa didn’t play any serious role other than to chase dark and reject daisuke. Initial impressions aren’t indicative of being a main heroine. She failed to play any significant role in the short run or long run outside of being solely the initial love interest. There is plenty of anime where the main character has an initial crush but moves on with the main heroine. Even in the first few episodes, Riku shows more interest in daisuke than Risa.
Honestly it's not that hard understand. If it looks like main heroine initialy and check enough boxes, it belong here. If you get first girl who fall from sky and move into guy appartment... just to get killed in 2nd episode and never mentioned again, then it's "main heroine that didn't win" for purpose of this thread even if show has 150 episodes long.

Intentions behind this thread was established from very beginning and was explained repeatedly to boot. Arguing about it now just being willful.
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Old 2020-09-17, 11:03   Link #875
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^Yes

Newcomers always debate that point

But trust me that this is the best list possible

Btw, intending to add Dear Sa-chan, since MC just broke up with her, but with how weird that manga is, there's a chance they will get together again at the end
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Old 2020-09-17, 12:01   Link #876
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^Has Domekano ended? Rui is the main heroine
Yes..... and oh boy, it's definitely will be on the list doesn't it?
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Old 2020-09-17, 12:09   Link #877
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^Oh, Hina won

Entering now

But that Sasuga Kei really loves having the "experienced" wins, eh?
Same thing happened in Good Ending
I'd appreciate them more if those were shoujo mangas instead of shounen with the perspective from Hina
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Old 2020-09-17, 12:18   Link #878
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Also you still didn't add Cultivation chat group
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Old 2020-09-17, 12:26   Link #879
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^Harem can't be added my dude
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Old 2020-09-17, 12:30   Link #880
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It's not harem though. There is one partner and no mistress.

Spoiler for relationships:
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