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10 out of 10 : Near Perfect... | 12 | 12.50% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 27 | 28.13% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 22 | 22.92% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 14 | 14.58% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 9 | 9.38% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 6 | 6.25% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 6 | 6.25% | |
Voters: 96. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-11-24, 13:35 | Link #21 | |
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2012-11-24, 13:38 | Link #22 |
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I didn't even think about sexism, since it isn't like Asuna can't do anything (I personally am not in that group of people thinking that Asuna is a mere damsell in distress in ALO, so no mysoginist setup perspective for me).
What actually doesn't work here is how the author had to slap a fetish in such manner with absolutely no regards of actual logic with his own setup, similarly how he had to pull a "non blood related sister that falls in love with the protagonist", but in a far more dubious and crude manner. That's about it. That's a bit similar how we have school swimsuits being introduced in a adult environnement like Muv Luv: it is nonsensical and evidently otaku pandering feature that adds nothing to the story.
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2012-11-24, 14:57 | Link #28 |
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So they finally arrive at the world tree.
That server maintenance was rather conveniently put. At least she found out what a horrible man her fiance is. Darn, she was so close to escaping... it's so not fair. I guess Kirito is her white knight who will rescue her after all. Oh man, Leafa is actually Kirito's sister with a serious big brother complex. That's just not good..
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2012-11-24, 15:04 | Link #30 |
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Because she doesn't. She acts like the heroine of a gothic novel who sneaks out of her bedroom at night to visit the room her fiance-kidnapper told her never to enter and discovers his dark secret before getting caught and locked back up in her bedroom where she has to wait for the dashing hero to rescue her. This device has been around since the 18th Century and Kawahara did nothing to improve upon it.
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2012-11-24, 15:05 | Link #31 | ||
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Now, of course, the two twisted scientists were treating her as an object, but that shouldn't be surprising since they referred to all the people they were experimenting on as "dolls". They don't have an ounce of respect for human life, which makes sense given the experiment they're doing. It's not inconceivable that they could have chosen that sort of avatar because they like the fetish you find offensive (which is, of course, about power). The very theme of Sugou and his "scientist" team is having power over others and abusing that power. So this sort of fetish, displayed in that context, is par for the course. (Of course, it was shown before in the story outside of that context too.) Quote:
Continuing in the "Advice to Evil Overlords" series, if you're doing evil experiments, don't call the room the "Experiment Room". Give it some some netural/boring sounding name like "Waste Processing" or "Power Distribution" or something that a curious escaped captive will never find suspicious. And also, even if you've never had a security incident ever, still don't leave security cards next to (or in) their console; this is just a Bad Idea (TM). Edit: Other things I was going to say:
Edit 2: Oh yeah, this also addresses a comment from a long time ago where people said that if the 5-person-tower didn't work to get to the top of the tree, why didn't they just try with more people: Because it was considered an exploit and blocked. Now that Kazuto/Kirito knows for sure that Asuna is in the game, Kirito's sense of urgency is certainly spiked. Perhaps he was able to keep cool and be rational before because of the uncertainty, but hopefully he'll be able to stay rational now. His dash to the top of the tree is totally pointless (because she just said they put a wall), but I suppose he can't help himself.
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2012-11-24, 15:08 | Link #32 | |
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2012-11-24, 15:21 | Link #35 |
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One thing I wish to ask the readers of the source material; did they ever describe the appearance of what the scientist's avatars looked like in that scene where they captured Asuna? I'm curious whether or not my notion is correct that they were made slug monsters, despite every other avatar in the game being a faerie of some sort, was just something the adaptation did to get some service out of it.
It's not like we didn't really know the "truth" of what ALO was for already. All we really got was a look at the facilities for the research that is being conducted. And Suguha's heart is broken which was inevitable from the moment it was revealed she liked Kazuto. Are we over and done with this nonsense now? I sure hope so. And how the heck does Suguha know what Asuna's avatar was named in the SAO incident and not Kazuto's? Talk about a selective memory. So wait....they wait until NOW to tell us that the GM's patched the game so noone can fly up the World Tree after a certain height? That was rather critical information yeah? What the hell is Kirito supposed to do now? Well I can at least sense this "arc" is slowly approaching it's climax. Whether or not it will be an interesting one is a different story.
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2012-11-24, 15:41 | Link #37 | |
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As for the episode itself, I liked how it did a dual parallel between the RL and VR. Poor Sugu, go with Recon already LOL.
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2012-11-24, 15:44 | Link #39 |
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I find it hilarious that the raging feminists are ignoring what Asuna did accomplish and focus on obsessing what she failed to complete. Sure just ignore the fact that she broke out all on her own, navigated her enemy lair alone, unarmed, and unprotected. Found a way out, came within millimeters of actually using it and got caught because she got surprised from behind in a blind spot. So she got captured but she still had the presence of mind to snatch the system keycard and hang on to it.
Yeah the tentacle thing was disturbing and more then a little disgusting and yes it does objectify Asuna from a certain point of view. It also is intended to display what kind of amoral monsters those scientists are who are viewing living breathing humans as little more than science specimens under the microscope for their amusement. I also can't help but wonder if all this complaining isn't about Asuna not succeeding but just that they want to see Kirito fail. As Kirito has crushed all challenges before him with contemptuous ease cries of boring invincible hero have abounded. The point is Asuna gave it a good try with the limited resources she had and she almost did it. Give credit where credit is due. Who knows, maybe that keycard she stole just might become critical after all. Surely it was stolen for a reason right? Naturally of course I expect 95% of the points I made in this post to be utterly ignored. |
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Edit: If Asuna had gotten out of the world tree area completely and into the area where normal players play, there'd be no reason she couldn't be over-powered just like Kirito when fighting in-game monsters or PvP. But fighting against those doesn't really solve her problem anyway.
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