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Old Yesterday, 02:42   Link #801
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Maybe the question should be should ordinary Ukrainians die needlessly and the futures destroyed over a war they can't win and is only continuing with the help of NATO whose support has been shown with recent events can be withdrawn at any time?
The poster in question's from Scotland.
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Old Yesterday, 02:57   Link #802
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Oh damn. Russia supporters posing as westerners here? Sorry, but none of people I know are willing to give up here.
Same energy as Floch from Attack on Titan when he ask what's bad about submission. I mean, you are one of the Ukrainians we know of, in this very forum, and some "westerners" are pretending to be concerned about your life by outright telling yall to just surrender and submit.

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Old Yesterday, 04:15   Link #803
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com..._without_even/

A Channel 1 video of the votes being counted in the occupied areas.

They’re showing the ballot papers, but I don’t see anything written.
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Old Yesterday, 07:12   Link #804
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Maybe the question should be should ordinary Ukrainians die needlessly and the futures destroyed over a war they can't win and is only continuing with the help of NATO whose support has been shown with recent events can be withdrawn at any time?
Implying Russia isn't sending its people to die needlessly, and by becoming Russian you can avoid this?

As for "war they can't win"... I dunno, they seem to be doing pretty well. Sure it's because of NATO's help, but that doesn't change the fact that they're winning all the same.
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Old Yesterday, 08:43   Link #805
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Maybe... The poster in question's from Scotland.
The sad truth (whether Belkar is Scottish or not) is that there are many Europeans that are crybabies (just like many 'murricans) that rather have all of Ukraine suffer the civilian bloodshed we have seen on the liberated cities, than paying this winter higher energy bills.

The simple fact is that by next winter utility prices will have returned to normal, but putin enablers rather feed the alligator now thinking "the iron curtain never came this close", give me my cheap gas. Maybe they don't know russian mini-subs have already sabotaged nordstream, so russia does not have to pay extra for not fulfilling written contracts.
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Old Yesterday, 18:50   Link #806
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The sad truth (whether Belkar is Scottish or not) is that there are many Europeans that are crybabies (just like many 'murricans) that rather have all of Ukraine suffer the civilian bloodshed we have seen on the liberated cities, than paying this winter higher energy bills.

The simple fact is that by next winter utility prices will have returned to normal, but putin enablers rather feed the alligator now thinking "the iron curtain never came this close", give me my cheap gas. Maybe they don't know russian mini-subs have already sabotaged nordstream, so russia does not have to pay extra for not fulfilling written contracts.
Yeah, next winter utility prices will return to normal. LOL.

Really sums up the level of political discussion on this forum.

Enjoy yourselves as to who can virtue signal the most on the topic on the moment. What next? Taiwan?
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Old Yesterday, 20:42   Link #807
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Low blow on Taiwan. Coming from you.
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Old Yesterday, 22:49   Link #808
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This is some weird reddit/4ch level victim blaming going on here.
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Old Today, 05:02   Link #809
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A guy with Russian-sounding nickname pretends to be Scottish. That is to blatant.
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Old Today, 05:08   Link #810
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Mangamuscle also poorly worded that part about the prices going back to normal I think.

I am guessing he meant that supposed peace supporters, who advocate for Ukraine immediate and unconditional surrender are pretending to side with Karens who want to go back to normal asap. Ukrainian people's freedom to choose their own destiny be damned.
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Implying Russia isn't sending its people to die needlessly, and by becoming Russian you can avoid this?

As for "war they can't win"... I dunno, they seem to be doing pretty well. Sure it's because of NATO's help, but that doesn't change the fact that they're winning all the same.
I really can't grasp how anybody can gripe about Ukraine sending its soldiers to die needlessly with a straight face while Russia sent press ganged Donbass residents into combat with World War 1 bolt action rifles, and whose current mobilization plans involve conscripted reservists being sent to fight in Ukraine with anywhere between 0 to 2 weeks of training like this was the Vulksturm when the German Army was falling apart in WW2.

I certainly know if we had suggested Russia would do this prior to this war starting, Russia sympathetic parties would have gone berserk about how slanderous and absurd this all ways. Yet 7 months into the conflict, they don't even blink at any of that and insist that everything is obviously going perfectly fine for Russia.
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