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Sylf · 2004-08-01, 18:05

I just watched the preview to episode 5. And it indicated that ABC murder will be a 4-episode arc.

tiktokfx · 2004-08-02, 03:22

Watching the first two episodes made me queasy.

Thus far my impression is simply that it's more "hey, let's take two exceptionally popular mystery detectives and subvert them into background plot devices for yet another angst ridden teenage girl who insists on getting her way, despite a total lack of character beyond stubbornness," than "hey, let's make a really cool series of animated mysteries."

ShikaShika · 2004-08-03, 16:16

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Originally Posted by glyph

Yeah, it seems they will start the first book story-arc (The ABC Murders) at episode 5. The first four episodes are all short-story adaptations.

The first? Am I correct in understanding then that the first four episodes are original works? Then I don't understand why people are saying stuff was cut out of the two first. Or maybe they said it could have been fleshed out...

glyph · 2004-08-03, 16:37

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Originally Posted by Akamaru

The first? Am I correct in understanding then that the first four episodes are original works? Then I don't understand why people are saying stuff was cut out of the two first. Or maybe they said it could have been fleshed out...

No, the first four episodes are adaptations of short stories by Agatha Christie, collected in various anthologies.

The original texts for episodes 1 and 2 can be read online here

The Jewel Robbery at the 'Grand Metropolitan'
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Agaweb/pi007.html

The Adventure of the Cheap Flat
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Agaweb/pi003.html

"The ABC Murders" will be the first full novel adaptation in this series.

ShikaShika · 2004-08-04, 05:28

Cool thanks! I watched the first ep, and I agree it was a bit easy to tell who the perpetrator was. I hope it's more difficult for the longer stories.

Lord Raiden · 2004-08-04, 19:21

hehe. If you've read the books you already know.

ShikaShika · 2004-08-06, 08:36

Just saw episode 2, surely there's a mistranslation either on the producers' side or on the part of the fansubbers

Spoiler:

Knuckles · 2004-08-06, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Akamaru

Just saw episode 2, surely there's a mistranslation either on the producers' side or on the part of the fansubbers

Spoiler:

Shows how much you know, black cat in England is considered to be good luck.

Kyoji · 2004-08-06, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Knuckles

Shows how much you know, black cat in England is considered to be good luck.

Is it?

I'd never heard that, i always associated it with bad luck, must have been too much TV

edit: is anyone else finding Oliver the duck too weird? I mean, Mabel is ok, but the duck is just odd :s

ShikaShika · 2004-08-06, 11:48

Yeah bad luck for me too, but I can't honestly say I lived in England in the 30s so maybe it was different then.

Also I don't know about weird, but I'd say Oliver is damn annoying.

Secca · 2004-08-06, 12:39

In some culture, cats considered really lucky, because they are believed to have 9 lives. Some culture even believe in cat paw charm just like rabbit foot charm.

Japanese stores usually have a Maneki Neko that welcome people to their store, it believes to bring luck to their store.

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Black cat is rare. If you see one you can consider them as an omen, either your luck has turn really realy good or really bad. ^^

This is some more cat superstition if you are interested. ^^

ShikaShika · 2004-08-06, 12:50

I see. Around here it's just bad luck. I still think that the scene reffering to this would make more sense if it was bad luck though.

Lord Raiden · 2004-08-06, 13:10

Around where I live, the only cat that'll bring you bad luck is the one that's about to eat you.

IE wild cats.

Burner of Anime · 2004-08-06, 21:22

I had a cat with a solid black coat, but the only bad luck was on him. A car ran over him last month T_T

wao · 2004-08-06, 22:40

That isn't very nice ;x

I wonder why they would say black cat is a good omen when clearly in England it can't be? Even if it is in Japan, well... are they trying more in catering to the audiences than to produce the show accurately? :\
It seems to be very popular in Japan, I wonder why...
And I also wonder about the very high video quality of the raws. It's so nice to look at...

Burner of Anime: What about grey cats that sit on people's heads

Medium luck?

Burner of Anime · 2004-08-06, 23:03

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Originally Posted by wao

Burner of Anime: What about grey cats that sit on people's heads

Medium luck?

Usually bad in anime. Increases cuteness factor of target person by a factor of 10.

It's a law of anime that the amount of cuteness a person has is in direct purportion to the amount of luck [good and bad] they inflict on their surroundings. In KBS, in the same episodes that cat used a persons head as a throne a lot of property damage ensues...

Which means someone is going to get really screwed in this anime as well because Maybelle is cute enough

LinChoiSin · 2004-08-06, 23:09

Mabelle is not cute at all ,she's desperately annoying and so is her duck but the duck at least doesn't speak!

Lord Raiden · 2004-08-11, 01:09

YAY!! Episode 3!! Thank you Froth-Bite!! WAHOO!! Now if stupid BT would just download faster.

wraith985 · 2004-08-11, 02:20

I liked the pacing on this one better than the first two. ABC murders soon...I hear good things, so I can't wait ^^

Secca · 2004-08-11, 05:33

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Originally Posted by wraith985

I liked the pacing on this one better than the first two. ABC murders soon...I hear good things, so I can't wait ^^

Me too, I think episode 3 is excelent.

Miss Marple is really amazing. It's cool how she work on the puzzle one step at a time without rushing into a conclusion. She even lay down hints and give interesting perpectives for the viewers to follow. ^^

Edit: This series is very refreshing compared to other anime series playing this season. ^^

2004-08-06, 08:36	Link #87
ShikaShika 無罪 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: もう東京ではない Age: 42	Just saw episode 2, surely there's a mistranslation either on the producers' side or on the part of the fansubbers Spoiler: Since when is a black cat a sign of good luck? Makes no sense either, when Poirot tells Elza.

2004-08-06, 12:39	Link #91
Secca nya` Artist Join Date: Feb 2004	In some culture, cats considered really lucky, because they are believed to have 9 lives. Some culture even believe in cat paw charm just like rabbit foot charm. Japanese stores usually have a Maneki Neko that welcome people to their store, it believes to bring luck to their store. . Black cat is rare. If you see one you can consider them as an omen, either your luck has turn really realy good or really bad. ^^ This is some more cat superstition if you are interested. ^^ Last edited by Secca; 2004-08-06 at 13:09.

2004-08-06, 22:40	Link #95
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	That isn't very nice ;x I wonder why they would say black cat is a good omen when clearly in England it can't be? Even if it is in Japan, well... are they trying more in catering to the audiences than to produce the show accurately? :\ It seems to be very popular in Japan, I wonder why... And I also wonder about the very high video quality of the raws. It's so nice to look at... Burner of Anime: What about grey cats that sit on people's heads Medium luck? __________________ Thanks for the fish

2004-08-01, 18:05	Link #81
Sylf 翻訳家わなびぃ Fansubber Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 50	I just watched the preview to episode 5. And it indicated that ABC murder will be a 4-episode arc.

2004-08-02, 03:22	Link #82
tiktokfx Starving Artist Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Northern Virginia	Watching the first two episodes made me queasy. Thus far my impression is simply that it's more "hey, let's take two exceptionally popular mystery detectives and subvert them into background plot devices for yet another angst ridden teenage girl who insists on getting her way, despite a total lack of character beyond stubbornness," than "hey, let's make a really cool series of animated mysteries."

2004-08-04, 05:28	Link #85
ShikaShika 無罪 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: もう東京ではない Age: 42	Cool thanks! I watched the first ep, and I agree it was a bit easy to tell who the perpetrator was. I hope it's more difficult for the longer stories.

2004-08-04, 19:21	Link #86
Lord Raiden Uber Coffee for da win! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle of insanity	hehe. If you've read the books you already know.

2004-08-06, 11:48	Link #90
ShikaShika 無罪 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: もう東京ではない Age: 42	Yeah bad luck for me too, but I can't honestly say I lived in England in the 30s so maybe it was different then. Also I don't know about weird, but I'd say Oliver is damn annoying.

2004-08-06, 12:50	Link #92
ShikaShika 無罪 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: もう東京ではない Age: 42	I see. Around here it's just bad luck. I still think that the scene reffering to this would make more sense if it was bad luck though.

2004-08-06, 13:10	Link #93
Lord Raiden Uber Coffee for da win! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle of insanity	Around where I live, the only cat that'll bring you bad luck is the one that's about to eat you. IE wild cats.

2004-08-06, 21:22	Link #94
Burner of Anime Illegal Additives Join Date: Jun 2004	I had a cat with a solid black coat, but the only bad luck was on him. A car ran over him last month T_T

2004-08-06, 23:09	Link #97
LinChoiSin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: paris Age: 41	Mabelle is not cute at all ,she's desperately annoying and so is her duck but the duck at least doesn't speak!

2004-08-11, 01:09	Link #98
Lord Raiden Uber Coffee for da win! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middle of insanity	YAY!! Episode 3!! Thank you Froth-Bite!! WAHOO!! Now if stupid BT would just download faster.

2004-08-11, 02:20	Link #99
wraith985 Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: California, USA	I liked the pacing on this one better than the first two. ABC murders soon...I hear good things, so I can't wait ^^