2006-11-19, 18:08 | Link #82 |
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That may be true but then again....in Naruto's case...if he was gonna brag he'd say:
Whatever...But there is no use if you cant block my attacks or actually hurt me...since i can heal extremly fast and my hits are nearly impossible to block (i am talking about going Kyuubi)
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2006-11-20, 07:48 | Link #83 |
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Naruto always compensates his inferior speed with Kage Bunshin and toughness
Since his opponents also often forget that they are faster and just go right for his Rasengan it's not that big a deal. Speed isn't the sole decisive factor of a combat or Lee wouldn't have lost all his fights. |
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He still has a good ability to control the power, as he shows during training. If he could no longer control it at all, all his clones and himself wouldn't be able to use the power at all without going berserk. What it seems is happening is evoking the kyuubi's chakra has become more unstable, and has a stronger chance of going out of control. He's been playing with that fire for far too long, and now he has a good chance of being burned. I think it is still safe to say if Naruto wasn't opposing but accepting the evil chakra, Sasuke wouldn't be able to repress it. I also think Sasuke entered Naruto out of simple curiousity that was probably bothering him since their last fight. I don't think he completely had the intention of supressing Naruto's chakra untill he seen the what was happening, and seemed to help Naruto out of that situation. |
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2006-11-21, 12:51 | Link #85 |
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But this makes me wonder.....
IF Naruto fights Itachi & Kisame and wants to use his Kyuubi chakra it may be useless because... Kisame simply uses his Soul-Slayer Samehada to eat Naruto's Kyuubi Chakra... Itachi can enter his mind to prevent him from using it.....(if he can do this too...)
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2006-11-21, 12:56 | Link #86 | |
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Anyway, Naruto against Itachi and Kisame is never going to happen, so no need to worry about it. |
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2006-11-21, 13:33 | Link #87 | ||
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Kisame used the Samehada right when Naruto was beginning to summon the Kyuubi chakra. Naruto stopped in surprise when he didn't feel the chakra flowing, but if he had fully summoned the Kyuubi chakra or was transformed like Sazelyt suggested we don't know if Kisame would be successful. Same thing with Itachi. If he can enter Naruto's mind and surpress the Kyuubi then he'd have to do it before Naruto gains tails. |
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2006-11-21, 14:19 | Link #89 | |
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If Naruto becomes a Rasengan himself just like the last time when he fought Oro, the power might be too great for Kisame's sword to handle. And, if Naruto intentionally wants to lose his consciousness to Kyuubi, and I think from the recent chapters we can safely claim that it can happen pretty quickly, then Itachi wouldn't find the chance to reach Kyuubi's consciousness through Naruto's consciousness. Anyway, those are just possibilities, including the possibility of Itachi not being capable or aware of such mind control (as he didn't try that before). |
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2006-11-21, 14:45 | Link #90 | |
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Something like a soul trapped inside it...hence the name Soul Slayer....JUST like Bleach...i didnt mix things up...it just seems a fitting name for it.
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2006-11-22, 18:03 | Link #93 |
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omg why is this topic stil goi
1. we've seen a totally motivated naruto a couple times(fight gaara,fight sasuke in the water) and we've seen him put a lot of ownage out(mass shadow cloens and summoning the frog boss) and without tails 2. naruto was obviously in totalt shock when he fought sasuke in the tiemskip......wait till naruto meets him with toalt confidence |
2006-11-22, 21:52 | Link #94 | |
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2006-11-23, 12:46 | Link #95 | ||
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I don't think it's safe to say that Naruto had anything to do with Sasuke reppressing the power of the Kyubi simply because there is absolutely nothing whatsoever implying that. -Since Part2 Naruto showed repeatedly his control over the power of the Kyubi is close to non-existant once he starts to really use it, in fact he was already unwillingly getting Kyubi's features before Sasuke entered his mind. -Once Sasuke was inside Naruto (eek) he was the only one acting and speaking with the Kyubi. Naruto did nothing but being dumbfounded and the Kyubi's remark about Sasuke suppressing his power was solely about Sasuke's doing, Naruto wasn't even mentionned. Sasuke wasn't helping Naruto, he tried to kill him twice in less than a minute and would have probably done so if not for Orochimaru. Heck he has no reason to believe reppressing the Kyubi's power would be helping Naruto in the first place, that's why the Kyubi asked him not kill Naruto . In fact for all he knows the Kyubi is the reason of Naruto's incredible power and what allowed Naruto to almost beat him 2.5 years ago. Quote:
It's just that doing that to a young Jinchuuriki and to the actual Bijuu isn't quite the same thing to say the less. |
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Like i said, if naruto is still capable of using kyuubi chakra without transforming, like i believe is happening during the training, then he still has a semblance of control when he is non-emotional. Also Sasuke was going to kill him in their last fight, and didn't. Honestly, i doubt he would have this time either. He decided there was no need to kill Naruto, and it's hard to say he wouldn't come to the same decision. We really can't say for sure either way, but he is a pretty confused guy. He is probably gonna continue to bounce from good and evil. Quote:
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There are more like this example. ... Quote:
I believe Itachi can also do that type of Control.
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2006-11-24, 14:56 | Link #98 | |
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It's hard to say if Sasuke can actually completely negate Naruto's power at this point, since we don't even know what Sasuke did exactly. Most, including me, don't dont want to believe Sasuke can block kyuubi chakra if they fight. It is as bad as Naruto being able to stop Sasuke from using Sharingan... I wouldn't think the author would have made it this badly lopsided. |
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2006-11-24, 15:12 | Link #99 | |
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Also We see in the next Chapter that right after Naruto releases his Clones finish up the training, Yamato also releases his control on Kyuby Chakras.
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Chap318 p3 Naruto releases the Tayuu Kage Bunshin and Yamato looking tired releases his jutsu as well with the seal dissapearing. Chap 319 p4, 6, 8, 16 & 17 Yamato is still in position using his jutsu. Chap 320 p 6 Naruto releases his Kage Bunshins and Yamato does the same looking even more tired. Chap 320 p17 Yamato thinks he didn't want to eat ramen after all that work. Chap322 p6 & 9 Yamato is still trying to control the chakra before the tails came out p10. Same thing chapter 329. Quote:
There is maybe 10 or 15s between the moment Naruto truly understood Gaara was dead and the moment he lost control of the Kyubi, indeed I wouldn't call that very long. During emotional times and when he's using much chakra, that's the problem with Yondaime's seal weakening. Quote:
It's not to say that Naruto will instantaneously loss his mind at the very moment he starts molding some Kyubi's chakra but the least feeling of anger or using to much of the power from the Kyubi can trigger the tails. Quote:
After the timeskip Sasuke has (or believes he has) completely severed his bond with Naruto. Hence no more best friend, hence no more MS. At this point Naruto is just a hindrance and Sasuke was going for the kill which is why Oro and Kabuto stopped him since they think Naruto & co could be more useful alive than dead. It's true that he's probably going to bounce between good and evil but at this particular time the bounce was clearly in the dark side. Like you said you don't want to believe Sasuke can block kyuubi chakra but for the current this is exactly what happened. I mean Sasuke pats the Kyubi's nose, blasts his head off and then the Kyubi says to Sasuke : "Unbelievable... To think you could even be able to supress my power." You can't get clearer than that. Now don't misunderstand me, I agree that since we don't know how Sasuke did it we can't say the extent of this power (in fact I already discussed about this subject with miss rave who firmly believes that Sasuke can just look at 4Tailed Naruto to beat him ) but while we don't know how he did it and if he could still do it if Naruto was already fairly empowered for example, it is quite obvious that Naruto had nothing to do with Sasuke repressing the Kyubi's power at this point of time. In fact this is probably the whole point of Naruto learning a jutsu going to be unbelievably powerful without need to turn into a beast. Quote:
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