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Old 2014-07-27, 15:07   Link #1101
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Here's to hoping you HF fans get multiple theatrical releases, because I just don't see your favorite route being done well in a single movie.
Yeah I hope it is separate like Kara no Kyoukai :/

Also, considering this is UBW route for the anime...

Wouldn't that mean we will have to see Illya getting her heart ripped out again...?

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Old 2014-07-27, 15:36   Link #1102
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Potential movie series of HF, it could still be one movie. I would wait with calling it a movie series until it has been explicitly stated.
I really hope it's not just one movie. If they try that then I can't see how it can possibly turn out well. HF just has too much content to fit it into a 2 or 3 hour movie.
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Old 2014-07-27, 15:49   Link #1103
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No one should sit here and logically think HF can be done in one movie. Aside from DEEN's usual debauchery, I think the UBW movie proved that you cannot even maintain a coherent storyline with that pacing. I think Ufotable should understand that too so I expect at least 2 or 3 movies to do it properly. Also I have a feeling they'll jam a bunch of Saber's Fate development into the UBW anime to give her more closure.

Oh and both trailers were absolutely gorgeous. Cannot wait for it .
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Old 2014-07-27, 16:21   Link #1104
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I really hope it's not just one movie. If they try that then I can't see how it can possibly turn out well. HF just has too much content to fit it into a 2 or 3 hour movie.
I don't expect it is going to be one move, but there is still a change that Ufotable has found a way to adapted HF in such a way that it would fit in one move in a way Ufotable think is satisfying.

Because of this we can still not totally rule out it being one movie, even though it seems unlikely.
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Old 2014-07-27, 16:23   Link #1105
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I kind of agree... Heaven's Feel would be utterly butchered if it's only in one movie. I can see a stopping point in one area that would make sense for the second movie. Unless they make it a really, really long movie?
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Old 2014-07-27, 16:32   Link #1106
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Guys, we all agree that it will probably by 2 movies. Because doing only one that would last hour and 40 minutes would butcher HF.

edit: In the end the only thing I am disappointing - original soundtrack will not be done by Kawai Kenji. Fate will just not be the same for me without his music.
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Old 2014-07-27, 16:44   Link #1107
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Guys, we all agree that it will probably by 2 movies. Because doing only one that would last hour and 40 minutes would butcher HF.

edit: In the end the only thing I am disappointing - original soundtrack will not be done by Kawai Kenji. Fate will just not be the same for me without his music.
No, I don't.

I EXPECT it is going to at least be two movies, but I don't yet rule out the possibility that Ufotable has found a way to tell a HF lite story which would fit in one movie or that they are stupid enough to try it. Stranger things have happened in the world.
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Old 2014-07-27, 17:09   Link #1108
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Hideyuki Fukasawa is a very talented composer. Ever listened to the Mahoyo OST? I think it's excellent. It won't be the Fate OST you longed for, but perhaps you'll like his work. I only heard the trailer music, but I think it's not half-bad.
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Old 2014-07-27, 18:36   Link #1109
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My god, the UBW loyalists and Saber haters are fangirling so hard, its getting really annoying. I was hoping for an anime original route that would have mixed in elements from the other routes. There's gonna be some boredom in knowing how everything is going to play out considering we already have an UBW movie.
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Old 2014-07-27, 18:40   Link #1110
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My god, the UBW loyalists and Saber haters are fangirling so hard, its getting really annoying. I was hoping for an anime original route that would have mixed in elements from the other routes. There's gonna be some boredom in knowing how everything is going to play out considering we already have an UBW movie.
We already got that kind of adaptation. It didn't pan out all that well.
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Old 2014-07-27, 18:43   Link #1111
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No, I don't.

I EXPECT it is going to at least be two movies, but I don't yet rule out the possibility that Ufotable has found a way to tell a HF lite story which would fit in one movie or that they are stupid enough to try it. Stranger things have happened in the world.
I think ufo will try to show how different they are from DEEN. Plus, the people who didn't watch the VN need all that important information which is packed in HF. The only scenes which don't have much or any info are the cooking scenes which are still needed for Sakura's character.

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There's gonna be some boredom in knowing how everything is going to play out considering we already have an UBW movie.
Also, as for the anime, the original parts will probably be to make it more of a Rin Route or a Rin & Archer route rather than just Archer's. Some will probably go to characterising Saber as well. And i'm hoping Ilya's death is taken out and something original put in(theres still a chance).

*whisper, whisper*Let the pictures fool you, it's the best way to predict trolling. You never know, there could still be Avalon shipping. But still carefully analyse pics so to find the little things that could be important. The only sad thing is that theres no Mordred...oh well, she could still appear in Fate/Grand Order. The only really annoying thing about this is the new fanfics coming out(after anime ends) they're all gonna be UBW. *anime tears* not gonna be interesting to read any more....action fanfics - can't be properly written by everyone ya'know.

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Old 2014-07-27, 19:46   Link #1112
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Oh wow, perfect news or what? Can't believe UBW, which had been the most overlooked in recent speculation, is actually getting a proper adaptation that will (hopefully) do it justice. It would have been so awful if that atrocious "effort" by DEEN in 2010 had forever remained as the only animated version of that fantastic story. Thank you based ufotable, for rescuing this franchise (and getting filthy rich off of it).

And of course, fingers will be crossed that HF is to be a series of films in the same vein as Kara no Kyoukai, which was a stellar adaptation that way. It makes a lot of sense actually, since it's far and away the darkest route. I believe a trilogy of 2+ hour films should be enough to do the story justice. A single movie doesn't stand a chance though, even if it's as long as, say, The Disappearance of Suzumiya Haruhi, so hopefully ufotable will know better.

Fukasawa Hideyuki doing the music is also exciting news to me. Sure, Kawai Kenji's work in the DEEN adaptation or Kajiura Yuki's in Fate/Zero were great and I would have been glad to see either of them back for this, but Fukasawa is also an awesome composer so it's great to see him getting a big break after tremendous work in more low key series like Aku no Hana (to me the greatest anime soundtrack in years).

As for the "poor Saber fans" thing everyone's going on about, I think that's nonsense. There's more to the quality and significance of a character's role in the story than whether they're being boned by the protagonist or not. I'm a Saber fan and I actually enjoyed her character more in both UBW and HF, where it didn't feel bogged down by clumsy and contrived attempts at romance (even Nasu himself has admitted he regrets a lot about how he wrote Shirou x Saber). Hell, you could also make the case for Rin having a better role in HF. And yes, I'm confident they'll add some of Saber's development in Fate to UBW, so that's all the more reason not to worry about her getting the short end of the stick.

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The only character that will get the short end of the stick is Gil. However, it's probably not that big a deal since I suspect a lot of F/Z fans hate Gil and will be satisfied to see him go down like a bitch twice.
Eh, Gil is still the main antagonist in UBW so that's not too bad. It'll suck not seeing more of him in his golden armor with ufotable animation though.

Also, I hope Nasu takes the opportunity to retouch his character a bit in UBW. He was just too evil and "unkingly" in that route (even taking into consideration his corruption and the fact that he's been watching modern humanity being disappointing for 10 years by then). Making him more like his Fate/Zero and Fate/Extra CCC self would go a long way to making his character more appealing.

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So, where do you think they will end the first cour? Saber's kidnapping and Archer's betrayal? That would make for one mighty cliffhanger.
That would be nice, but, looking at the Fate/Zero anime, I don't think they care much whether they end the first cour on a good spot or not.
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Old 2014-07-27, 19:57   Link #1113
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My god, the UBW loyalists and Saber haters are fangirling so hard, its getting really annoying. I was hoping for an anime original route that would have mixed in elements from the other routes. There's gonna be some boredom in knowing how everything is going to play out considering we already have an UBW movie.
So desiring a route that hasn't been properly made into an anime makes us saber Haters? Some of us just don't want to see the same route made over and over again just to please Saber fans. Some of us just like UBW and HF over Fate. That doesn't make us saber haters.

I just hope HF getting a movie won't stop it from getting a full series in the future.
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:04   Link #1114
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They've already done worm rape in Fate/Zero,
I wonder if there are many people who didn't realise that there's actually rape involved in that scene
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:33   Link #1115
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They won't outright show the sex regardless, as they aren't a hentai studio. But as far as plot goes, they can easily leave it it. They've already done worm rape in Fate/Zero, and they aren't shy to having human on human rape as seen in Kara no Kyoukai.
I've seen anime that have had sex scene yet weren't hentai. It's more about how detailed they are than whether there is sex. Having a movie allows more freedom than general anime on TV. It won't be detailed regardless since as you said they aren't a hentai studio but sex scenes are possible.
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:36   Link #1116
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I wonder if there are many people who didn't realise that there's actually rape involved in that scene
To most people it looked like a little girl in a worm pit. The only one who would think otherwise are perverts or people who read the VN.

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So desiring a route that hasn't been properly made into an anime makes us saber Haters? Some of us just don't want to see the same route made over and over again just to please Saber fans. Some of us just like UBW and HF over Fate. That doesn't make us saber haters.
It's not that you hate her, it's the way you stat it. I makes a reader feel as you hate her guts so badly. Plus, most Saber fans hate HF as in HF Saber is just randomly thrown around to there can be some selfish shipping(yes that is what I call ShirouXSakura, I tried other names but this fits best). Seeing as the movie will be pure HF, there's gonna be some new threads with Saber fans ranting on and on... I'm gonna enjoy this...escpecially the moments when they begin trolling selfish shipping.

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I've seen anime that have had sex scene yet weren't hentai. It's more about how detailed they are than whether there is sex. Having a movie allows more freedom than general anime on TV. It won't be detailed regardless since as you said they aren't a hentai studio but sex scenes are possible.
If this were to happen, lots of people who watched zero and wanted more Sakura would be well, let's just leave it as...stunned(I'm talking about anime watchers only btw). Would be best if they announced the age range first...just incase. Also, sex scene with out hentai? That's like calling HF non-hentai. But, it just depends how they present it and if they make it obvious or not.
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:40   Link #1117
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To most people it looked like a little girl in a worm pit. The only one who would think otherwise are perverts or people who read the VN.
Or people who rewatched the series or remember plot elements. Zouken outright says in episode 20 that the worms feasted on Sakura's purity.
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:43   Link #1118
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Or people who rewatched the series or remember plot elements. Zouken outright says in episode 20 that the worms feasted on Sakura's purity.
Heh true. But still, saying it is different from seeing it. Really all we saw was a girl in a worm pit, and Zouken then explained what happened, it was very smart of ufo to hide it like that.
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:47   Link #1119
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Okay I think now that this is confirmed we can start pretending that the probable atrocity that was the movie does not exist.
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Old 2014-07-27, 20:50   Link #1120
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Okay I think now that this is confirmed we can start pretending that the probable atrocity that was the movie does not exist.
To me, even if the scene wasn't there, zero wouldn't be any different. The scene was just to set up stuff for the movie. But that's just how I see it.
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