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Ithekro · 2013-01-25, 00:02

I don't think I've ever seen anyone consider a Kyoto Animation show to have mediocre animation.

I mean I've heard people not liking their shows, but never their animation.

Fasinating.

Chiibi · 2013-01-25, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

I don't think I've ever seen anyone consider a Kyoto Animation show to have mediocre animation.

Yes, I was about to step in with "Okay, so you don't like the plot and the characters but wait just one cotton-picking minute there....."

There's just no way a sane person can look at the concert scene from Haruhi while she's singing and and go "Meh, mediocre animation".

Nuh-uh.
NO.

Kudryavka · 2013-01-25, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Chiibi

Yes, I was about to step in with "Okay, so you don't like the plot and the characters but wait just one cotton-picking minute there....."

There's just no way a sane person can look at the concert scene from Haruhi while she's singing and and go "Meh, mediocre animation".

Nuh-uh.
NO.

KyoAni is one of the best in Japanese animation. Same cant be said for all animation tho. He probably dont like high budget Japanese animation b/c he thinks its choppy compared to high budget stuff from other countries. Thats the only way I can imagine he says KyoAni is mediocre animation, b/c he thinks most Japanese animation is mediocre anyway.

And anyway Ive remember times when KyoAni has made stupid animation choices too.

kitten320 · 2013-01-26, 10:54

I'm with you, hate Haruhi too. It bored me to death. Though surprisingly movie was quiet good, probably because ass Haruhi was missing for biggest part

GreatTeacherKen · 2013-02-11, 00:31

Mars of Destruction- A short 19 minute OVA though I think it probably was intended to be longer since it ends on a cliffhanger, but seeing how poorly made the episode we did get was, perhaps it's a good thing more episodes weren't made.

The plot and characters aren't well developed. For the latter, I can't think of a good way to describe their personalities since they don't really show much personality nor are their motivations explained in any depth. I don't think the short length excuses this either since most stories give the audience a good sense of a character's basic personality and motivations within their introduction. The same thing applies to the OVA's plot which also is not well explained so there's little sense of what is at stake. Not to mention the plot twist that concludes the OVA comes out of nowhere.

The animation is very limited which is very noticeable during the fight scenes where the characters seem to just stand around and get hit. There are also quite a few pointless and not very impressive looking panning shots.

Kudryavka · 2013-02-11, 00:36

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Originally Posted by GreatTeacherKen

Mars of Destruction

Damn, that anime was bad. Watching it now.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-02-11, 08:47

How about Blood-C? It's like if it was written by ten guys with different opinions which resulted in its huge changes across the episodes. Also there are scenes that are freaking disturbing.

Another one I think deserves this is Demon Lord Dante. Why? Well, the hero joins with a group of murders who have been killing your girls including his own sister and the show actually takes them as the good guys. Then there's this big plot hole in which they can't decide which the true identity of Dante and a ridiculous flashback in which the heroes fight none other than God. Also, the ending is pure clusterf#!k: APOCALYPSE BY INCEST!!

Akito Kinomoto · 2013-02-12, 09:04

Pale Cocoon. At least I knew to lower my expectations since I was hyped from watching Time of Eve. Otherwise it doesn't have the excuse of being earlier in Yoshiura's career because Aquatic Language at least made sense of itself. If there's one thing I can't stand in anime, it's the pretentious undertones of shows that throw random things together and seriously want the viewer to think when there's no question to answer. And my God Pale Cocoon is obfuscating for the sake it.

~~NK_500~~ · 2013-02-13, 05:02

Any anime that based on non-Japanese games are tend to fail especially Dante's Inferno: Animated Epic and Mass Effect: Paragon Lost. I can't say much for Dante's Inferno one but as for Mass Effect: Paragon Lost is bad even from an ME otaku. First there are some inconsistencies with the lore and worst of all the MC is not even Shepard in fist place.

kitten320 · 2013-02-15, 14:37

Mouryou no Hako - can't say it is the worst of the worst but I didn't enjoy it.

Show tried to be something big yet failed. Characters didn't get explored enough, most of revelations didn't make much sense nor were they really needed.

Maybe I'm stupid but:

Spoiler for spoilers:

I mean really? It didn't add anything to a story except adding several more freaks to a mix.

Also whole possession thingy sounded as a very poor excuse to all the actions characters did.

It is interesting to see a freak world but creators didn't explore it well. It looked more like a collection of random nonsense.

There were only few things that I liked.

Dhomochevsky · 2013-02-18, 15:38

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Originally Posted by NK_500

Any anime that based on non-Japanese games are tend to fail especially Dante's Inferno: Animated Epic and Mass Effect: Paragon Lost. I can't say much for Dante's Inferno one but as for Mass Effect: Paragon Lost is bad even from an ME otaku. First there are some inconsistencies with the lore and worst of all the MC is not even Shepard in fist place.

Not that I have seen these series or knew they existed.

But just thinking of all the crazy fandom-rage over which Shepard is canon... and that was just about some short ads.
I believe it is a very, very wise choice not to make her(

) the MC.

Mizuno · 2013-02-18, 15:55

Rio Rainbow Gate and that Horizon series.

Mad Pierrot · 2013-02-19, 12:28

Anyone ever checked Garzey's Wing? The story is already convoluted but the voice acting takes it to a whole new level.

Marcus H. · 2013-02-20, 00:12

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Rio Rainbow Gate and that Horizon series.

Not a fan of boobs, I assume.

Kudryavka · 2013-02-20, 00:30

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Anyone ever checked Garzey's Wing? The story is already convoluted but the voice acting takes it to a whole new level.

Show me the ancient Japanese man's spirit

He is just a human! Humans are just human

Chiibi · 2013-02-20, 00:35

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

Anyone ever checked Garzey's Wing? The story is already convoluted but the voice acting takes it to a whole new level.

This falls under "So bad, it's good" though.

Lord of Fire · 2013-02-20, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Not a fan of boobs, I assume.

Boobs, or overinflated balloons that are supposed to pass as such?

Kudryavka · 2013-02-20, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Lord of Fire

Boobs, or overinflated balloons that are supposed to pass as such?

Man you know you're right lolol

Marcus H. · 2013-02-20, 19:31

But, but...

Images

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The Butcher · 2013-02-21, 10:48

K.

Jesus, yes we see your pretty animation. Now, can we move the story?

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	I don't think I've ever seen anyone consider a Kyoto Animation show to have mediocre animation. I mean I've heard people not liking their shows, but never their animation. Fasinating. __________________

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kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	I'm with you, hate Haruhi too. It bored me to death. Though surprisingly movie was quiet good, probably because ass Haruhi was missing for biggest part __________________ My anime list

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kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Mouryou no Hako - can't say it is the worst of the worst but I didn't enjoy it. Show tried to be something big yet failed. Characters didn't get explored enough, most of revelations didn't make much sense nor were they really needed. Maybe I'm stupid but: Spoiler for spoilers: What was the point of making Kanako's sister to be actually her father and that her father is also her grandfather? I mean really? It didn't add anything to a story except adding several more freaks to a mix. Also whole possession thingy sounded as a very poor excuse to all the actions characters did. It is interesting to see a freak world but creators didn't explore it well. It looked more like a collection of random nonsense. There were only few things that I liked. __________________ My anime list

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Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	Anyone ever checked Garzey's Wing? The story is already convoluted but the voice acting takes it to a whole new level. <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/NWru5o07j_I">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

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Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	But, but... Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2013-02-11, 00:31	Link #1705
GreatTeacherKen Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California	Mars of Destruction- A short 19 minute OVA though I think it probably was intended to be longer since it ends on a cliffhanger, but seeing how poorly made the episode we did get was, perhaps it's a good thing more episodes weren't made. The plot and characters aren't well developed. For the latter, I can't think of a good way to describe their personalities since they don't really show much personality nor are their motivations explained in any depth. I don't think the short length excuses this either since most stories give the audience a good sense of a character's basic personality and motivations within their introduction. The same thing applies to the OVA's plot which also is not well explained so there's little sense of what is at stake. Not to mention the plot twist that concludes the OVA comes out of nowhere. The animation is very limited which is very noticeable during the fight scenes where the characters seem to just stand around and get hit. There are also quite a few pointless and not very impressive looking panning shots.

2013-02-11, 08:47	Link #1707
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	How about Blood-C? It's like if it was written by ten guys with different opinions which resulted in its huge changes across the episodes. Also there are scenes that are freaking disturbing. Another one I think deserves this is Demon Lord Dante. Why? Well, the hero joins with a group of murders who have been killing your girls including his own sister and the show actually takes them as the good guys. Then there's this big plot hole in which they can't decide which the true identity of Dante and a ridiculous flashback in which the heroes fight none other than God. Also, the ending is pure clusterf#!k: APOCALYPSE BY INCEST!!

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~~NK_500~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Nintensalem	Any anime that based on non-Japanese games are tend to fail especially Dante's Inferno: Animated Epic and Mass Effect: Paragon Lost. I can't say much for Dante's Inferno one but as for Mass Effect: Paragon Lost is bad even from an ME otaku. First there are some inconsistencies with the lore and worst of all the MC is not even Shepard in fist place.

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Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	Rio Rainbow Gate and that Horizon series.

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The Butcher Butchered Taste Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: North Carolina	K. Jesus, yes we see your pretty animation. Now, can we move the story? Last edited by The Butcher; 2013-02-21 at 11:47.