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View Poll Results: Higurashi Episode 26 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 61 | 37.65% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 43 | 26.54% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 29 | 17.90% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 16 | 9.88% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 2.47% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 1.85% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 3 | 1.85% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 3 | 1.85% | |
Voters: 162. You may not vote on this poll |
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2006-09-27, 22:07 | Link #61 |
Mahjong Triple Pro
Join Date: Sep 2006
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What's the problem with one supernatural plot device? The whole rest of the story was based around logical occurences of events, motives, and real tools for each scenario; if anything, the supernatural bit only strings the different arcs together, for it doesn't have an extreme impact on the plot of each arc.
There's another extremely popular mystery series called "Death Note" that is entirely based on logical reasoning, though it has two supernatural elements that are essential to the plot. Rika's "shining" isn't even as essential as the Death Note or Shinigami, since she doesn't use her supernatural ties directly to manipulate the scenarios in any way. ... Of course, I am saying this without knowing what happens in Minagoroshi-hen. :/ |
2006-09-27, 23:42 | Link #62 | |
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It would be different if the supernatural elements were well defined from the beginning, but they aren't even well defined now, and we just were definitively told that the supernatural element is there in episode 25 for the first time (I firmly believe that prior to that point, all elements could have been explained rationally). It just cheapens the whole thing. All in all, this series has been an entertaining distraction, so in that sense it works. But if the point of the anime was to sell the sound novels, it failed, at least in my case, because now I don't care about any explanations that could be offered. |
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2006-09-28, 01:25 | Link #63 |
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Yea I can understand how a supernatural portion could make things kinda fluky...
But it would flawed to say that just because Rika is or in possession of flipping the hourglass of cycling worlds... Doesn't necessarily entail that everything else... even those things that are Rika related, are supernatural as well. You don't think believe that our main casts choices and paths followed in every world were all magic do you? Does Rika having/being a part of a supernatural cycle have a effective cause to people's actions? (In a general sense causally they do, as without the cycle no other worlds... not even the first, Onikakushi would even occur... since nobody knows how many times Rika has had to relive the same month or so) Asides from this consequence of the cycling... does the supernatural in this story have "blame" to put for how things are? How things play out? Its like the question posed at the start of the series in Onikakushi threads... Supernatural or logical explanation... Well it seems "or" is itself is actually incorrect. |
2006-09-28, 05:19 | Link #64 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Poland
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If you expected totally rational explanations, I guess you didn’t pay much attention during Himatsuboshi. I just can’t wait for rantings after Minagoroshi
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I think ending of this episode strongly indicate there will be continuation . Episode wasn’t bad except animation, I hope, when animating Minagoroshi Deen will be able to put much more “heart” in it. |
2006-09-28, 12:36 | Link #68 | |
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Your alleged "failed potential" is based on your expectation that this is a mystery story. Well, it most emphatically isn't--a close analogy would be me watching Haruhi and saying "WTF you explain plot line XXX with the line that she is a god? Screw this supernatural bs!" Granted, Higurashi is a lot less upfront about the supernatural bits, but I do think that the mere existence of resets is enough.[/QUOTE] Uh... Haruhi is a comedy - i found it relied a lot more on the comedy/romance element rather than the plot. Higurashi is a suspense thriller - it relies heavily on plot. How can you compare how a comedy uses a plot line and how a suspense thriller uses a plot line? Anyway, it wasn't ambiguous as to what was going on with Haruhi's status, while in higurashi, the viewer had a lot of space to formulate ideas. Stilla great series, not denying that, but the final "twist" just ruined it a little for me. |
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2006-09-28, 14:29 | Link #69 | |
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Basically, he's this guy who is butts heads with Oishi a few times in the course of the story. IIRC he might have been in a previous TIP when Oishi tried to get a search warrant and he denies him that request (don't remember all that well - might have been someone else). Socially in the Police Department Hierarchy this guy is higher up then Oishi. He's an overall minor character. |
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2006-09-28, 17:47 | Link #70 | |
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2006-09-29, 00:19 | Link #72 | ||
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Anywho, I finally saw the EP. I liked it overall. I'll give it an 8. Missed the Keiichi's Victory declartion and Rena's secret confession but I can understand why it was skipped. Oishi calling out Rika seemed really odd and out of character tho. |
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2006-09-29, 00:49 | Link #73 | |
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Having a supernatural element degrades Higurashi from a mystery to try to solve to just a story that follows only the convenience of the author. Because he resorted to a cop-out to explain one mystery, there could just as easily be another cop-out for the next mystery. The only way to really have a good mystery with supernatural elements is for those elements to be well-defined early on so the author can't pull a trick like this one. If this one element was introduced in Onikakushi-hen, I don't think it would spoil the whole mystery. To those who are saying this isn't supposed to be a mystery, I can't even begin to imagine how that can be true. If it's not a mystery, why is it presented this way, divided into chapters that ask 'questions' and those that present 'answers'? And don't the closing lines of Onikakushi-hen seem to be setting up a mystery? "To whomever reading this, please uncover the truth." Anyway, time to stop ranting, at least for me. If you enjoyed it, great. If, like me, you feel this is an unfortunate turn, you have my sympathy. But I still enjoyed it, up to episode 24, so overall, I can't complain too much. |
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2006-09-29, 01:57 | Link #74 | ||
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*ahem* By the way, do they get laid in the end after all? I think someone did mention something about it before (maybe kj or Sushi, can't remember). Sorry to sound like such an ero freak, it's just that the comment sparked my interest. |
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2006-09-29, 01:59 | Link #75 | |
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2006-09-29, 02:31 | Link #78 | |
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Oh, it actually said something like this "AFAIK this is the only arc where Keiichi and Rena got _____". I guess my ero-autopilot mode got ignited and automagically filled the blank. Sorry about that |
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2006-09-29, 03:33 | Link #79 | |
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What I meant to say was that Tsumihoroboshi-hen was the only chapter where Rena and Keiichi actually showed some romantic interest in each other. In the other scenarios, the developments simply didn't give them the chance to create or express that feeling (well, Rena practically gave up her life to Keiichi in Onikakushi-hen, which probably means something). Really, a lot of things in this series is up to your imagination, depending on your alignment (KeiichixRena, KeiichixMion, etc.) and interpretation, you can easily pick up signs of love here and there. |
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2006-09-29, 04:11 | Link #80 | |
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That was really embarassing to watch, and I wouldn't be suprised if they went to Rena's hideout togather afterward (While Daybreak is likely to be an non-related side story, it's Ryu-chan that wrote the script. that means something.) |
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