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Ca12nag3 · 2009-10-29, 09:57

There is this woman that worked with Gidon at the project she looks a lot like Cruz. Well Cruz like her so could she be his mom. I forgot wich chapter shes in but it is were Blade and Eve are young.

Homura7 · 2009-10-29, 10:09

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Originally Posted by Ca12nag3

There is this woman that worked with Gidon at the project she looks a lot like Cruz. Well Cruz like her so could she be his mom. I forgot wich chapter shes in but it is were Blade and Eve are young.

Ah, Kasumi, the scientist who died during one of the Eve experiments.

kenjiharima · 2009-10-29, 10:45

Possible she created the Adam girl? Or was part of that project.

Homura7 · 2009-10-29, 11:21

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Possible she created the Adam girl? Or was part of that project.

No idea, but the Adam girl is already 16 in the one-shot story. That pretty much states she was created long ago.

kenjiharima · 2009-10-29, 11:30

Now Iam really pushing for Adam Blade and Adam girl to meet. While she favors Cain instead of Abel-girl. Damn these biblical names, getting goosebumps thinking what if's in the bible....

But since we're in the world of Needless, Bible contains grenades.

Homura7 · 2009-10-29, 11:43

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Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Now Iam really pushing for Adam Blade and Adam girl to meet. While she favors Cain instead of Abel-girl. Damn these biblical names, getting goosebumps thinking what if's in the bible....

But since we're in the world of Needless, Bible contains grenades.

But there's a problem with this. The fact the Adam girl wears Blade's choker. As I said, that's just a prototype story, and the only way for the author to add both characters in the original story is by modifying their character background.

Ca12nag3 · 2009-10-29, 12:12

Well there is no need to do that, in D gray-man for example the first prototyp Zone the main character was a girl and in D gray-man its a boy. So it dont matter all that much i think.

Homura7 · 2009-10-29, 12:20

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Originally Posted by Ca12nag3

Well there is no need to do that, in D gray-man for example the first prototyp Zone the main character was a girl and in D gray-man its a boy. So it dont matter all that much i think.

Yeah, and that's why I believe that the two characters of the main cast we know were born from that girl.

shadowii · 2009-10-29, 16:10

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Yeah, and that's why I believe that the two characters of the main cast we know were born from that girl.

it says that she was basically born from them (or at least their genes), other way around

shadowii · 2009-10-29, 22:02

new question, just saw episode 18 and it is exactely like the manga. Except they did not do the thing where blade is talking about a puzzle that makes up Cruz. What is he saying?

also gerrun lagoon and needless. one was actually based on the other?

Homura7 · 2009-10-30, 08:57

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new question, just saw episode 18 and it is exactely like the manga. Except they did not do the thing where blade is talking about a puzzle that makes up Cruz. What is he saying?

also gerrun lagoon and needless. one was actually based on the other?

About the puzzle it's a talk about what Arka's fragment is and how it works.

About the other, I guess you mean Gurren Lagann, right?

Needless-> First volume, published in the year 2004.

Gurren Lagann-> First episode, aired during end of year 2006.

Guess the concept of the aniki whose influence makes the hero grow and become baddass and awesome wasn't ivented by Gainax

Homura7 · 2009-10-30, 19:51

So, anyone here apart from me thinks Cruz's fragment must be the original Zero? You know what I mean, not the one born from clonation, nor the one born from clonation and evolved merging with Christ's remains. The real one.

shadowii · 2009-10-30, 21:49

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So, anyone here apart from me thinks Cruz's fragment must be the original Zero? You know what I mean, not the one born from clonation, nor the one born from clonation and evolved merging with Christ's remains. The real one.

is there a real one?

kenjiharima · 2009-10-31, 03:54

If the Second has all the needless fragments. It can be an original one.

Hmm...reminded me of Magus from Chrono Trigger. His element Shadow, he has all the elements on level 2 and has shadow elemental powers as well, but more power powerful.

Wargumm1i · 2009-10-31, 03:59

The second was never pronounced dead, he just disappeared.

kenjiharima · 2009-10-31, 04:59

Then how did the scientist found his body and cloned Adam's? Unless he is re-incarnated...in a someone with green hair that cross dresses.

Dragonkid11 · 2009-10-31, 05:07

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Then how did the scientist found his body and cloned Adam's? Unless he is re-incarnated...in a someone with green hair that cross dresses.

Or...unless he have some relation with Cruz's mother before he die/killed/whatever.....you know...those "relationship"...

Wrath88 · 2009-10-31, 08:58

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Then how did the scientist found his body and cloned Adam's? Unless he is re-incarnated...in a someone with green hair that cross dresses.

Logical reasoning:
Someone with special powers show up. Scientists dispatch people to get any of his DNA. Chances are they managed to grab his spit, hair, and skin cells.

shadowii · 2009-10-31, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Wrath88

Logical reasoning:
Someone with special powers show up. Scientists dispatch people to get any of his DNA. Chances are they managed to grab his spit, hair, and skin cells.

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The second was never pronounced dead, he just disappeared.

everyone should read volume seven

Homura7 · 2009-10-31, 11:11

The Second remains can be seen in volume 7, and Arclight further stated he died, and by his words it looks like he died in a really gruesome way. And guess with whom Arclight was talking while telling all this? Cruz.

About my theory about the existence of an original Zero, when Arclight, who had at that moment the same fragment as Blade, merged with The Second remains, he gained the PF Zero. In other words, following that logic, when Christ died and all his fragments were scattered in the world, the only fragment that was left inside him was Zero, or what's the same, a powerless fragment.

It would be the following:

Blade-> Zero

Arclight-> Zero + Christ's Zero = PF Zero

If you take a close look it makes sense, both Blade and Arclight gained Zero because they were born from Christ's DNA.

Discuss

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Ca12nag3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	There is this woman that worked with Gidon at the project she looks a lot like Cruz. Well Cruz like her so could she be his mom. I forgot wich chapter shes in but it is were Blade and Eve are young.

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Ca12nag3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	Well there is no need to do that, in D gray-man for example the first prototyp Zone the main character was a girl and in D gray-man its a boy. So it dont matter all that much i think.

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Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	So, anyone here apart from me thinks Cruz's fragment must be the original Zero? You know what I mean, not the one born from clonation, nor the one born from clonation and evolved merging with Christ's remains. The real one.

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Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	The Second remains can be seen in volume 7, and Arclight further stated he died, and by his words it looks like he died in a really gruesome way. And guess with whom Arclight was talking while telling all this? Cruz. About my theory about the existence of an original Zero, when Arclight, who had at that moment the same fragment as Blade, merged with The Second remains, he gained the PF Zero. In other words, following that logic, when Christ died and all his fragments were scattered in the world, the only fragment that was left inside him was Zero, or what's the same, a powerless fragment. It would be the following: Blade-> Zero Arclight-> Zero + Christ's Zero = PF Zero If you take a close look it makes sense, both Blade and Arclight gained Zero because they were born from Christ's DNA. Discuss Last edited by Homura7; 2009-10-31 at 12:18.