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Old 2011-04-02, 14:43   Link #201
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I already knew all of that. Also, we're in the spoilers and speculation board and I'm pretty sure you don't need to use spoiler tags here.

Just wondering - does Child Error specifically refer to only those abandoned by their parents, or do orphans also fall under that category?
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Old 2011-04-02, 14:45   Link #202
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Just wondering - does Child Error specifically refer to only those abandoned by their parents, or do orphans also fall under that category?
Aren't they the same? Either way they have to be sent to Academy City.
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Old 2011-04-02, 17:36   Link #203
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Lurking around I found this anyone can translate?
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Old 2011-04-02, 22:26   Link #204
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Aren't they the same? Either way they have to be sent to Academy City.
Hmm, I thought if a child was orphaned after getting into Academy City he/she wouldn't count as a Child Error?
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Old 2011-04-03, 03:01   Link #205
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Hmm, I thought if a child was orphaned after getting into Academy City he/she wouldn't count as a Child Error?
My mom called me a Child Error.

But seriously, I think it's after they're orphaned in Academy City.
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Old 2011-04-03, 03:25   Link #206
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I thought child error are children that's been used in experiments and not just orphaned in academy city.
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Old 2011-04-03, 03:30   Link #207
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So what do you guys think of this theory? I just heard about it in a gaming forum in our country.

Seiri Fukiyose or Kumokawa Seria is the mysterious Tokiwadai Queen.

At first, I didn't believe it as both of them aren't enrolled at Tokiwadai at the first place. But considering that the Queen doesn't show herself in public, probably not even in Tokiwadai, she's probably hiding under a different identity and thus enrolled in two schools at the same time to keep herself low-profile. This "different identity" could be one or none of them.

Considering Seiri's beauty and influence in Touma's class (she acts as the Class Rep when Pierce is the real one), and Seria's knowledge of the ToAru world, one of them could be the Queen. Or they could be people controlled by the Queen herself.
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Old 2011-04-03, 03:40   Link #208
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Seria has a higher chance of being the Queen of Tokiwadai in my opinion.
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Old 2011-04-03, 04:01   Link #209
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Seria has a higher chance of being the Queen of Tokiwadai in my opinion.
It was Saten-san all along!
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Old 2011-04-03, 04:02   Link #210
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Lurking around I found this anyone can translate?
[IM G]http://chan.sankakustatic.com/data/6f/b0/6fb09f8206c0013d7a658aa45405b87e.jpg[/IM G]
You can't embed pictured from that website. Just put the link there as it can be only opened by copy-pasting the address into address bar.
(the pic will only show if your browser opened it recently)
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Old 2011-04-03, 09:23   Link #211
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Seria has a higher chance of being the Queen of Tokiwadai in my opinion.
No, she is too old.
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Old 2011-04-03, 11:04   Link #212
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I thought child error are children that's been used in experiments and not just orphaned in academy city.
Child Errors are defined as children who are abandoned by their parents in Academy City. Not all of them are used for experiments. I was just wondering if orphans fell under that category or not, but I suppose it doesn't matter.
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Old 2011-04-03, 13:32   Link #213
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I think only one member of ITEM is considered as the child error. Perhaps, she's the anomaly. The academy confirms 7 level 5, but there are actually 8 level 5 in the academy. Her ability completely messes up the scheme of the academy. She doesn't have any offensive and defensive ability. Her ability is to track down anyone at any place. It's the big tactical advantage for her gang. Before ITEM is still "hitman" for the academy, it is not the problem. After certain nosebleeding guy turns this villain unit into hero unit, the academy should have something to fear. Well, the academy is not fearing ITEM. They probably think they can take out ITEM anytime. Having two level 5 in the gang is not something to relax either. One esper can cause atoms repelling each other(explosion). Another esper can tracking and upgrade/downgrade other espers' level. The outcome may exceeds the academy's calculation.
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Old 2011-04-03, 14:44   Link #214
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question: can Hamzuras wifu stop someones ability all together or just downgrade it and is there a limit to how much aim or information she can process
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Old 2011-04-03, 17:32   Link #215
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You mean Rikou? she still in level 4. But if she reaches level 5. She can turn a level zero into level 5 and a level 5 into level 0.
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Old 2011-04-03, 17:56   Link #216
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I think only one member of ITEM is considered as the child error. Perhaps, she's the anomaly. The academy confirms 7 level 5, but there are actually 8 level 5 in the academy. Her ability completely messes up the scheme of the academy. She doesn't have any offensive and defensive ability. Her ability is to track down anyone at any place. It's the big tactical advantage for her gang. Before ITEM is still "hitman" for the academy, it is not the problem. After certain nosebleeding guy turns this villain unit into hero unit, the academy should have something to fear. Well, the academy is not fearing ITEM. They probably think they can take out ITEM anytime. Having two level 5 in the gang is not something to relax either. One esper can cause atoms repelling each other(explosion). Another esper can tracking and upgrade/downgrade other espers' level. The outcome may exceeds the academy's calculation.
Rikou's power is only useful against other espers though, and AC has weapons with enough power to wipe out ITEM...

and worse comes to worse, Aleister can always just take care of them himself...
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Old 2011-04-04, 21:27   Link #217
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So what do you guys think of this theory? I just heard about it in a gaming forum in our country.

Seiri Fukiyose or Kumokawa Seria is the mysterious Tokiwadai Queen.

At first, I didn't believe it as both of them aren't enrolled at Tokiwadai at the first place. But considering that the Queen doesn't show herself in public, probably not even in Tokiwadai, she's probably hiding under a different identity and thus enrolled in two schools at the same time to keep herself low-profile. This "different identity" could be one or none of them.

Considering Seiri's beauty and influence in Touma's class (she acts as the Class Rep when Pierce is the real one), and Seria's knowledge of the ToAru world, one of them could be the Queen. Or they could be people controlled by the Queen herself.
This could actually be countered by the premise that the Queen should be in middle school, while Seiri and Seria are already in high school.

However, as the Queen dislikes appearing in public, she could have faked her identity and passed off as a high schooler despite still in middle school.
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Old 2011-04-04, 21:33   Link #218
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This could actually be countered by the premise that the Queen should be in middle school, while Seiri and Seria are already in high school.

However, as the Queen dislikes appearing in public, she could have faked her identity and passed off as a high schooler despite still in middle school.
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Old 2011-04-04, 21:35   Link #219
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Sort of. I just thought about it today, in case someone would actually use that as a counter to my previous argument.
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Old 2011-04-04, 22:27   Link #220
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Guys, I think this conspircy is way too farfetch now. Just because we have never seen her, doesn't mean the characters have never seen her, if that was the case she'll be another urban legend, but there at least have to be records of her taking tests and exams to maintain her status as a Level 5 in that Tokiwadai, similiar to Mikoto. And no, you can't have a substitue to do that.


And for the simpliest of reasons, why the hell would anyone want to do that? What's the point of faking to be in middle school? She's not a person from the Dark Side, that's no need for that; look if she was going to 'hide' herself, why bother keeping that level 5 status? Why not pretend to be a 0? THen you have to consider, how did she enroll into Tokiwadai in the first place?

THat's just too many loopholes for this to work.
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