AnimeSuki Forums

ReddyRedWolf · 2014-09-04, 02:14

Bazett is lucky Kerry wasn't home. If he was she'll find herself and those that hired her very dead. The last time anybody wanted to harm his little girl(s) he wiped them out.

Rev Okkin · 2014-09-04, 02:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Bazett is lucky Kerry wasn't home. If he was she'll find herself and those that hired her very dead. The last time anybody wanted to harm his little girl(s) he wiped them out.

Wait, when was this? If it is about harming his little girl it would be about

Spoiler for :

Kyosuke_Nanbu · 2014-09-04, 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Bazett is lucky Kerry wasn't home. If he was she'll find herself and those that hired her very dead. The last time anybody wanted to harm his little girl(s) he wiped them out.

She is around the level of the one that Kerry paid heavy price to win so don't get your hope up

R.LocK · 2014-09-04, 04:59

...I wonder if no one remembers just who put a stop to Einsbern's Holy Grail War in Prismaverse. Or that Einsbern were not heard of for ten years~

Kyral · 2014-09-04, 07:42

As it never was directly stated what happended to the Einzberns... who knows?

But even if Kelly took them all out. The Einzberns were magi specialised in Homunculus creation.
Bazette on the other hand is a physical powerhouse able to dodge dual wielded full-auto submachine gun fire. She also seems invulnerable to explosions.

The Green One · 2014-09-04, 09:26

She's not invulnerable to them, she just has the means and the preparations to tank them.

whitecloud · 2014-09-04, 10:06

she got all kind of rune in her hand...sealing designation officer title is not an easy to get title

kenshinstyle · 2014-09-04, 10:17

Holy, the Bazett wanking is getting out of hand not here but in other places. She might be buffed in Prismaverse but to suggest she can take on gil is just.

Kyral · 2014-09-04, 15:42

I do hope so... never read the manga but I did hear they're heaving a whole volume left.
I don't think they press it into a single episode... :-/

GDB · 2014-09-04, 15:47

It's actually 2 volumes, I believe. Or close to it.

jeroz · 2014-09-04, 23:09

There are 27 chapters, and we are half way through chapter 15 atm

ReddyRedWolf · 2014-09-06, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rev Okkin

Wait, when was this? If it is about harming his little girl it would be about

In the episode Iris showed up it is implied the Holy Grail War was stopped by Iris and Kerry by sealing up the Grail memories in Illya and wiping out the Einzberns.

Basically in this universe baby Illya was the Grail vessel ten years ago and Kerry chose her over his ideal of saving the world. Since his specialty is killing mages and the Einzberns are no more according to Iris put two together the likely conclusion he killed them. Ending the Holy Grail War before it began.

Iris and Kerry chose to give Illya a normal life. Course they didn't know they didn't erase Illya's memory just caused her to have a Dissociative Identity Disorder. Then Ruby barged in Illya's life getting her involved with the world of mages. Illya's wishes to protect, have a normal life and Kuro's wish to have what Illya has was granted by the Holy Grail. This is why Illya has a lowered out put of mana as Kuro is no longer in her.

Metaneo · 2014-09-06, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

In the episode Iris showed up it is implied the Holy Grail War was stopped by Iris and Kerry by sealing up the Grail memories in Illya and wiping out the Einzberns.

Basically in this universe baby Illya was the Grail vessel ten years ago and Kerry chose her over his ideal of saving the world. Since his specialty is killing mages and the Einzberns are no more according to Iris put two together the likely conclusion he killed them. Ending the Holy Grail War before it began.

Iris and Kerry chose to give Illya a normal life. Course they didn't know they didn't erase Illya's memory just caused her to have a Dissociative Identity Disorder. Then Ruby barged in Illya's life getting her involved with the world of mages. Illya's wishes to protect, have a normal life and Kuro's wish to have what Illya has was granted by the Holy Grail. This is why Illya has a lowered out put of mana as Kuro is no longer in her.

So is Illya still a near-endless mana font or is that Kuro now?

GDB · 2014-09-06, 20:07

My understanding is Kuro has a massive tank, but the tank has a leak and cannot fill itself, whereas Illya's tank is about 30% the size it was in season 1, but refills itself at insanely rapid speeds.

bhl88 · 2014-09-06, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTHokiePride

I feel like Bazett's attack absorbs the opponent's trump card and reflects back or just nullifies it completely since you're not supposed to be able to use your best attack when fighting her.

Spoiler for NP:

The Green One · 2014-09-06, 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by GDB

My understanding is Kuro has a massive tank, but the tank has a leak and cannot fill itself, whereas Illya's tank is about 30% the size it was in season 1, but refills itself at insanely rapid speeds.

The Kaleido sticks have infinite mana so they can instantly resupply their wielder with mana as long as they're being held so while Illya's maximum capacity has plummeted, Ruby can refill her as often as needed. Though Illya can also recover mana naturally through resting when not in a combat situation.

Kuro's body is artificial so it requires mana to hold together so the simple act of existence slowly but steadily drains her supply away, using magic accelerates this process which is why she steals mana through kisses to replenish otherwise as shown a couple of episodes she'll eventually run out and die/vanish.

GDB · 2014-09-06, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Green One

The Kaleido sticks have infinite mana so they can instantly resupply their wielder with mana as long as they're being held so while Illya's maximum capacity has plummeted, Ruby can refill her as often as needed. Though Illya can also recover mana naturally through resting when not in a combat situation.

Well, yeah, but even without Ruby Illya appears to replenish her mana insanely quickly compared to other magus.

The Green One · 2014-09-07, 00:22

I always took that as Illya taking the lesson to heart of doing more with less. Though thinking about it now when does Illya ever use magic except when in prisma form via Ruby? I can't recall a single situation.

GDB · 2014-09-07, 06:51

She doesn't, but she can replenish Kuro without passing out. Even though they try to attribute that to "compatibility", Miyu was very compatible too and still passed out. I attribute it to Illya replenishing her own tank fast enough to not pass out.

The Green One · 2014-09-07, 17:17

Or alternatively they're so "compatible" because Illya and Kuro were at one point the same person, so their mana likely can synchronize almost perfectly. Also the one time we see Kuro drain Miyu it was by force simply taking what she wants from her. Illya however would do it willingly so perhaps the transfer isn't so draining since they're establishing an actual connection.

I don't think it ever gives an actual reason why they're so compatible so both us are really just speculating here.

View Poll Results: Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA Zwei! - Episode 9 Rating
Perfect 10	9	33.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	13	48.15%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	3	11.11%
7 out of 10 : Good	2	7.41%
6 out of 10 : Average	0	0%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	0	0%
4 out of 10 : Poor	0	0%
3 out of 10 : Bad	0	0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	0	0%
1 out of 10 : Painful	0	0%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

2014-09-04, 07:42	Link #25
Kyral OC Belka Scriptor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 40	As it never was directly stated what happended to the Einzberns... who knows? But even if Kelly took them all out. The Einzberns were magi specialised in Homunculus creation. Bazette on the other hand is a physical powerhouse able to dodge dual wielded full-auto submachine gun fire. She also seems invulnerable to explosions. __________________

2014-09-04, 10:06	Link #27
whitecloud Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	she got all kind of rune in her hand...sealing designation officer title is not an easy to get title __________________ Friends are nice.......

2014-09-04, 15:42	Link #29
Kyral OC Belka Scriptor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Germany Age: 40	I do hope so... never read the manga but I did hear they're heaving a whole volume left. I don't think they press it into a single episode... :-/ __________________

2014-09-04, 23:09	Link #31
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	There are 27 chapters, and we are half way through chapter 15 atm __________________ [TAC]

2014-09-04, 02:14	Link #21
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	Bazett is lucky Kerry wasn't home. If he was she'll find herself and those that hired her very dead. The last time anybody wanted to harm his little girl(s) he wiped them out.

2014-09-04, 04:59	Link #24
R.LocK My turn Join Date: Feb 2012	...I wonder if no one remembers just who put a stop to Einsbern's Holy Grail War in Prismaverse. Or that Einsbern were not heard of for ten years~

2014-09-04, 09:26	Link #26
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	She's not invulnerable to them, she just has the means and the preparations to tank them.

2014-09-04, 10:17	Link #28
kenshinstyle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006	Holy, the Bazett wanking is getting out of hand not here but in other places. She might be buffed in Prismaverse but to suggest she can take on gil is just.

2014-09-04, 15:47	Link #30
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	It's actually 2 volumes, I believe. Or close to it.

2014-09-06, 20:07	Link #34
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	My understanding is Kuro has a massive tank, but the tank has a leak and cannot fill itself, whereas Illya's tank is about 30% the size it was in season 1, but refills itself at insanely rapid speeds.

2014-09-07, 00:22	Link #38
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	I always took that as Illya taking the lesson to heart of doing more with less. Though thinking about it now when does Illya ever use magic except when in prisma form via Ruby? I can't recall a single situation.

2014-09-07, 06:51	Link #39
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	She doesn't, but she can replenish Kuro without passing out. Even though they try to attribute that to "compatibility", Miyu was very compatible too and still passed out. I attribute it to Illya replenishing her own tank fast enough to not pass out.

2014-09-07, 17:17	Link #40
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Or alternatively they're so "compatible" because Illya and Kuro were at one point the same person, so their mana likely can synchronize almost perfectly. Also the one time we see Kuro drain Miyu it was by force simply taking what she wants from her. Illya however would do it willingly so perhaps the transfer isn't so draining since they're establishing an actual connection. I don't think it ever gives an actual reason why they're so compatible so both us are really just speculating here.