(L) 5-Toubun no Hanayome

[Wargumm1i]

Wait let me get this straight, the Author made a time-skip and because most of the sisters look alike, he just showed a slightly older version of the sisters to skip with all the drama and heartbreaks etc etc?

[amasposu]

100% end. 😲

[usspaul]

well while i dropped the manga along time ago due to seeing that it was heading towards a itsuki yots route i still frequent this thread to read the discusions here. so now that this manga is over i will miss reading all the post from this thread and wish you all the best

[WingedAccelerator]

Originally Posted by Lex79

Could there be an epilogue when the last volume comes out? The times of hopes, speculations and disappointments might not be over yet.

There is no official page count yet for the final volume, but a leak claims it will be 212 pages long. I counted 199 pages for the last volume, however the total page count includes material outside of the chapters like the front cover, inside cover, table of contents, character biographies, credits etc. Usually it ups the page count by 10-14 pages. If the leak is proven to be true, it's either nothing or 2-4 pages at max, but I would hardly call that an epilogue. The leak could be proven fake or Negi could announce a monthly, 1 volume long spin-off epilogue/after story like what Masamune and Kuzu no Honkai did.

Originally Posted by Wargumm1i

Wait let me get this straight, the Author made a time-skip and because most of the sisters look alike, he just showed a slightly older version of the sisters to skip with all the drama and heartbreaks etc etc?

THIS is what happened.

[MK-95-]

Way to go Negi, now that's how you conclude this masterclass of a story... I'm definitely never reading another manga from this guy ever again.

Not gonna lie, it's a damn good thing that I lost interest in this when I did because if I didn't, I'd probably be even more pissed than I was at the Masamune-kun ending. That says a lot...

[Snowbold]

Originally Posted by MK-95-

Way to go Negi, now that's how you conclude this masterclass of a story... I'm definitely never reading another manga from this guy ever again.

Not gonna lie, it's a damn good thing that I lost interest in this when I did because if I didn't, I'd probably be even more pissed than I was at the Masamune-kun ending. That says a lot...

Lucky you, I finished both and was disappointed in the ends of both.

[Sixth]

Negi may not be your favorite author, but at least we know that he wasn't a spineless coward when it comes to writing an ending for a romance genre manga.

[wuhugm]

^To me, both recent romcom were major disappointment

[Snowbold]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^To me, both recent romcom were major disappointment

Exactly. Think about it.

• In Masamune's Revenge, he spent all this time trying to get back at her only to fall in love with his co-conspirator and she fall in love with him after the truth of her involvement in his trauma? That was a great turn and it took only one chapter to overturn that.
• In this one, we had someone who clearly fell for him as he is now, without the context of his past crush. And she went forward to make herself something. Instead, the MC chooses the girl with the least interaction because she was past girl? The best example was the bells arc when he discerned Miku from the rest without anything but just knowing it. And after that, they just threw it away.

They both had the potential and both squandered it.

[Marcus H.]

Don't forget about Bokuben. That also didn't go favorable to some.

[Snowbold]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Don't forget about Bokuben. That also didn't go favorable to some.

At least it wasn't first girl.

[devil_slayer]

Originally Posted by Snowbold

Exactly. Think about it.

• In Masamune's Revenge, he spent all this time trying to get back at her only to fall in love with his co-conspirator and she fall in love with him after the truth of her involvement in his trauma? That was a great turn and it took only one chapter to overturn that.
• In this one, we had someone who clearly fell for him as he is now, without the context of his past crush. And she went forward to make herself something. Instead, the MC chooses the girl with the least interaction because she was past girl? The best example was the bells arc when he discerned Miku from the rest without anything but just knowing it. And after that, they just threw it away.

They both had the potential and both squandered it.

Sorry, but nothing beats the shitty ending of Masamune.

Yotsuba may not have been the best choice but at least Negi has the decently to stick to her after he made Fuutarou pick her. Masamune author played a pretty cheap trick and misled us until the VERY LAST chapter. That shit was cheap, distasteful and pathetic.

Also, this is just my thing, but I kinda lost interest in Miku after I felt Negi was just trying to make her another Nino.
By the end I was rooting for Yotsuba.

[WingedAccelerator]

Since the thread got bumped, I may as well say that despite the fact that I anticipated Yotsuba's character book to do well, or to the the best, it didn't even break 100k in two weeks. Thus, the current sales is most likely the last data we will have about it. Miku is in the lead with 131.8k, then Ichika and Nino are pretty much toe-to-toe with 112.7k and 112.4k, only then comes Yotsuba with 96.3k. I thought for sure the readers will be more interested in Negi's thoughts and excuses about her, guess it's not the case, and I can't blame them.

I'm not in the mood to debate anymore, but never understood the complaint that Miku became another Nino. I took it as another "obligatory" complaint about the fan favorite. Chapter 97 and the festival is a great example about how generally Nino and Miku tackles things, not to mention post Chapter 114. Miku getting more confidence resulted in sudden emotional actions like the living room confession, the hug, even the pool chapter. Just because she was aggressive there, when she had no problem taking off her tights in front of Fuutarou's presence, she is another Nino. Logic. Or the cooking. Nino wanted to open her own place. Miku wanted to study cooking. Yet, it's the former that only decided to follow the latter last minute, because Negi was an ass that shitted on Nino left and right, so may as well fuck her character development as well.

[Snowbold]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

Since the thread got bumped, I may as well say that despite the fact that I anticipated Yotsuba's character book to do well, or to the the best, it didn't even break 100k in two weeks. Thus, the current sales is most likely the last data we will have about it. Miku is in the lead with 131.8k, then Ichika and Nino are pretty much toe-to-toe with 112.7k and 112.4k, only then comes Yotsuba with 96.3k. I thought for sure the readers will be more interested in Negi's thoughts and excuses about her, guess it's not the case, and I can't blame them.

Yeah, no one cares. Cause there is no excuse he can make to justify two much better options (Miku & Nino) and a third option (Ichika) that was better but would have drawn ire too.

[RDNexus]

Itsuki hasn't gotten a book? Or might've been planned to go after Yotsuba's?
If it's the 2nd possibility, then it seems to me she may not even get that...

[WingedAccelerator]

Itsuki's book releases in the 17th of March. The last volume will be out a month later.

[MK-95-]

Originally Posted by devil_slayer

Sorry, but nothing beats the shitty ending of Masamune.

Yotsuba may not have been the best choice but at least Negi has the decently to stick to her after he made Fuutarou pick her. Masamune author played a pretty cheap trick and misled us until the VERY LAST chapter. That shit was cheap, distasteful and pathetic.

Also, this is just my thing, but I kinda lost interest in Miku after I felt Negi was just trying to make her another Nino.
By the end I was rooting for Yotsuba.

Idk man, I feel as tho if I had stayed invested, Go-Toubun's ending may have somehow pissed me off more tbh. Just the fact that Yotsuba didn't try AT ALL throughout the entire manga and still somehow won, is infuriating to think about.

I agree that the Masamune ending was incredibly cheap and the bait and switch that the author pulled was done in poor taste as well, but at the very least, Aki was no Yotsuba.

Both series are examples of manga with a lot of potential that authors royally fucked up because they can't fathom what it means to be "coherent". As for which is worse between the two, I feel as tho Go-Toubun is slightly worse because the girl that won, did absolutely nothing to earn her win... At least Aki still did something.

[WingedAccelerator]

This is supposedly from Itsuki's character book:
https://i.imgur.com/m1QO68S.jpg
"I try to treat all sisters as equal as possible. But there was an exception for Itsuki. Since she was the first who met Fuutarou she didn't participate in love battle. But in the end she might realize something..."

Is this accurate, or the translator is trolling?
I have already said that people are entitled to be happy for the first girl trope to be broken, but it's a hollow victory if said first girl was deliberately wasn't allowed to particiapte and only was used as the main heroine bait.

[bastek66]

Funny things are in tags: dumpster fire, first girl after all, harem, privileged main heroine, quintuplets, retcon, student-tutor, train wreck

[Snowbold]

Originally Posted by bastek66

Funny things are in tags: dumpster fire, first girl after all, harem, privileged main heroine, quintuplets, retcon, student-tutor, train wreck

Sounds about right.