Russia invasion of Ukraine

[ganbaru]

'Be afraid': Ukraine hit by cyberattack as Russia moves more troops
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ps-2022-01-14/

Though they avoided directly accusing Moscow, they made clear they suspected Russia. Russia did not comment but has previously denied being behind cyberattacks, including against Ukraine.

"Ukrainian! All your personal data was uploaded to the public network. All data on the computer is destroyed, it is impossible to restore it," said a message visible on hacked government websites, written in Ukrainian, Russian and Polish.

"All information about you has become public, be afraid and expect the worst. This is for your past, present and future."

Doing a cyber-attack before a millitary one would be a smart move in this day and age but what would be the point of that mesage, especially if really comming from Russia? This is pretty much a warning, I cant see no reason to do so safe to a attempt to put more pression on Kiev in a attempt to make them do astupid move.

[AnimeFan188]

Russia Orders Snap Drills Of Its Eastern Units As Negotiations
Over Ukraine Disintegrate

"The Russian military has launched a series of snap drills in the far east of the country,
leading to speculation that additional forces could be being prepared to move west, closer
to the border with Ukraine, where Moscow has been steadily massing troops and
equipment as fears of a potential invasion of that country grow. These military maneuvers
in the far east of Russia come after talks between Russian and Western officials to address
the worsening security situation ended in a stalemate. At the same time, a large-scale
cyberattack targeting Ukrainian government websites has occurred."

See:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...e-disintegrate


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U.S. Considers Backing an Insurgency in Ukraine

"Now, in what would be a major turnaround, senior Biden administration officials are
warning that the United States could throw its weight behind a Ukrainian insurgency
should President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia invade Ukraine."

See:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ine/ar-AASMEf5

[mangamuscle]

Microsoft warns of destructive cyberattack on Ukrainian computer networks

https://bdnews24.com/technology/2022...puter-networks

Russia suggests military deployments to Cuba, Venezuela an option

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...uela-an-option

To me it is clear Putin is desperate, just like Dubya thought the USA army would be received in Irak as liberators, things aren't playing out like he dreamed in his delusions of grandeur in reality. Because unless they put nuclear weapons in Cuba or Venezuela those locations have little tactical value and I see neither of those two government wanting to be part in a war.

There is little Putin can do to bully the west into submission. There is only the kennedy option, of course, it has been said assassination was done by the Russian's as payback for the cuban missile crisis but the USA would never accept that because they would have to declare war. Removing Biden from office would leave a Kamala than is inexperienced and if we believe the reports from the press, highly dysfunctional as a politician.

Putin mishandling of the pandemic leaves him more unpopular than ever and if he stops pretending there is democracy in Russia, next time he might be the one asking autocratic governments for military aid to squash a peasant revolt.

[mangamuscle]

Ex-President Petro Poroshenko returns to face treason charges

https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-ex-pre...ges/a-60444684

Here is the excuse Russia will use to invade Ukraine, they will say he is the real president of Ukraine and reinstate him in power as the autocrat puppet he has always been.

[AnimeFan188]

C-17 Loads Of Anti-Tank Missiles Arrive In Ukraine Courtesy Of
The United Kingdom

"Officials in the United Kingdom and Germany have pushed back against speculation
that there has been some kind of diplomatic disagreement between the two countries
over a British airbridge operation that is delivering Next Generation Light Anti-tank
Weapons, or NLAWs, to Ukraine.

U.K. Royal Air Force C-17 cargo planes began flying sorties to Boryspil International
Airport outside the Ukrainian capital Kyiv yesterday, taking a route that appeared
designed to avoid German airspace, after British authorities publicly announced the
planned arms shipments. This all comes amid simmering concerns that Russia may be
planning to launch a new, large-scale military intervention into Ukraine, fears that have
sparked anew as Russian troops flood into neighboring Belarus ostensibly for snap
exercises next month.

German authorities have made clear that they did not ban the British flights from
entering their airspace for any reason and U.K. officials had not requested permission to
send the C-17s over their country on the way to Ukraine in the first place. This was
subsequently confirmed by the U.K. Ministry of Defense."

See:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...united-kingdom

[Guardian Enzo]

That’s assuming you think Orban won’t either steal the election outright or refuse to leave if he loses.

[Last Sinner]

Think that everything going on in Kazakhstan also needs to be factored into this scenario. We're talking about conflict in one of the most resource-rich countries in the world.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Last Sinner

Think that everything going on in Kazakhstan also needs to be factored into this scenario. We're talking about conflict in one of the most resource-rich countries in the world.

IMO the unrest in Kazakhstan was part of the plan all along. Putin strikes a deal (or maybe even did it in secret) to send operatives to turn pacific protest into riots, that gives the excuse to send russian stormtroopers , i mean, "peacekeepers" to start a narrative of how Russia helps restore the peace in foregin lands, in less than a month no less.

The danger in Kazakhstan never was it becoming a democracy, there are no figures that could lead such a change; the only thing putin prevented is china getting even chummier with the local autocracy.

As we speak he must have all his operatives looking for cracks in the Ukranian society to create riots so he can send "peacekeepers".

BTW, next february the Presidency of the United Nations Security Council is going to be held by the Russian Federation, guess who is going to ram into the ground any political negotiation if tanks start moving next month? Because to me it is clear that Putin wants this to be over asap, he does not want an Afghanistan 2.0

[ramlaen]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

Sorry Ukraine but under the bus you go.

On Ukraine, this press conference is a disaster. In the follow up question, Biden just affirmed that there will not be crippling sanctions unless it’s a full invasion. Then he acknowledged that NATO is divided on the response, after saying that Putin seeks to divide NATO.

The warhawks on all sides want their pound of flesh.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

On Ukraine, this press conference is a disaster. In the follow up question, Biden just affirmed that there will not be crippling sanctions unless it’s a full invasion. Then he acknowledged that NATO is divided on the response, after saying that Putin seeks to divide NATO.

The thing is, anything less than a full invasion is worthless for Putin, Donbas does not represent any strategical win like Crimea (heck, if the factories in the region are destroyed due to heavy artillery shelling, it is basically worthless), he can't claim "Mission Accomplished" like Dubya did on Iraq.Remember, Putin is looking for more than a win, he wants an historical legacy, yeah, this is all about one autocrat's ego.

Best case scenario, he annexes Donbas only this year, like Peter Pan's cocodrile, looking to eat the rest later on. But don't count on it, Putin know he has the time against him and in one year Ukraine's army can receive tons of training and equipment.

[ramlaen]

A Ukrainian official told CNN's Matthew Chance that he is "shocked that the US President Biden would distinguish between incursion and invasion."

"This gives the green light to Putin to enter Ukraine at his pleasure," the official said. "Kyiv is stunned."

Originally Posted by mangamuscle

Remember, Putin is looking for more than a win, he wants an historical legacy, yeah, this is all about one autocrat's ego.

I'm sure Putin will enjoy his legacy if things continue to work in his favor but that is not the driving force behind Russia's actions.

https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/01...ence-strategy/

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by ramlaen

https://www.fpri.org/article/2022/01...ence-strategy/

Utter BS, this seems to buy into Putin's narrative that Ukraine would military attack them, which makes less sense than Mexico invading the USA, Here is a simple explanation of Putin's rationale based in facts, with pretty drawings to booth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjb7Vde3pJ8

[mangamuscle]

UK foreign office says Kremlin is planning to install a pro-Russian leader in Ukraine

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/22/e...ntl/index.html

Plan A: Bullying the west into placing Ukraine into Putin's sphere of influence

Plan B: Placing a puppet government, that would ask for russian "peacekeepers" like Kazakhstan did.

Plan C. Ouright invasion?

[mangamuscle]

In Putin's Russia, a weak and divided NATO alliance is about to invade their peace loving regime and tucker carlson gives them sound bites to prove it!

https://us.cnn.com/2022/01/25/europe...ntl/index.html

[ramlaen]

https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/st...86161871982593

There can be reasonable differences in looking at the same information. However, some in Kyiv think that Washington is hyping the threat in order to get them to offer concessions. Do with that what you will.

[ramlaen]

https://twitter.com/MarquardtA/statu...21462338064392

A Russian invasion is now virtually certain once the ground freezes, Biden said to Zelensky, a senior Ukrainian official told
@mchancecnn
. Kyiv could be “sacked," Russian forces may attempt to occupy it, “prepare for impact”, Biden said, according to this official.

[Ithekro]

Given their past experience I would think the Russians know the "propper" time of the year to go to war in the region. Urkraine was crossed by tanks many times 80 years ago.

[X207]

the Russian Lebensraum policy is very obvious. its not an ideal situation at all. all the totalitarian or communist countries are flexing muscle, china 5g and tech, Russia good ole annexation. not much can be done if Russia does invade. they likely will succeed in taking back more land from Ukraine.

[TheForsaken]

I think that you guys have consumed too much of Western propaganda.
I have said before, and I will say it again: There is ZERO chance that a war is going to happen (unless Ukraine is stupid enough to attack first).

I will come back to this thread at the end of 2022 and ask: "Hey guys, how is the invasion going?"
Well, at that point, it's possible that the Western media will hype up a new imminent invasion lol.

[Ithekro]

We will hope you are correct.