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Old 2013-11-08, 04:14   Link #2161
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In a nutshell, due to being crippled they lost to opponents they could easily beat, and as a result we can no longer know who'd have won that Toki-Mami match had all this not happened. (Case in point: Yuu, who wasn't even Saki's strongest girl, got 589 votes against Mami's 673. Toki's 230 votes against Mami's 503 shows that Saki got severely weakened along the way; even if Toki lost, it should have been a close match.)
I agree that Saki faction was weaken due to the new rule. But I still believe that Saki faction was already going in full strength in that match with Matsumi sister combo votes.
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Old 2013-11-08, 05:02   Link #2162
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This isn't right...a Saimoe Sweet 16 round with a mediocre vote total. Where are the more than 1k vote totals that we are used to at this point of Saimoe? :/
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Old 2013-11-08, 05:35   Link #2163
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This isn't right...a Saimoe Sweet 16 round with a mediocre vote total. Where are the more than 1k vote totals that we are used to at this point of Saimoe? :/
Actually, I'll reserve judgement until the final 8.
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Old 2013-11-08, 07:18   Link #2164
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K1-4: Kuroneko vs Akaza Akari

One of the front runners to break the Madoka dominance of 2011 vs one of the front runners to break the Saki stranglehold on 2012. These two are facing each other once again. Like how Madoka is stronger than Saki, the Madoka challenge proved stronger than the Saki challenger the first time they met. It wasn't a big win for Kuroneko, but it was solid and recent enough that I feel she'll repeat that performance. It should be another good close match.

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Kuroneko (Gokou Ruri)

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Kuroneko (Gokou Ruri)
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Old 2013-11-08, 07:53   Link #2165
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Kuroneko

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Kuroneko
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Old 2013-11-08, 08:08   Link #2166
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So now we are heading into the final hour, and right now, all signs are pointing to a Kaname win. 172-107, Madoka right now.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:17   Link #2167
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Pretty much a decisive result. BoBA calling this in favor of Madoka.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:23   Link #2168
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Spoiler for Oh dear...:

I'm with Madoka on this. Come on, Homu, I know you got bussed in the second round, but let's be good sports here.

That being said...in your face, ion. Own it.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:23   Link #2169
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Only 417 votes?

This is a joke right?

This is suppose to be the match with highest vote.

Madoka vs Ayase vs Homura still gather 1052. Where are the rest of the voters?

Even Tsukiko vs Kobato got more votes.

Did the admin ban a lot of legitimate voters again or what?
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:43   Link #2170
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Only 417 votes?

This is a joke right?

This is suppose to be the match with highest vote.

Madoka vs Ayase vs Homura still gather 1052. Where are the rest of the voters?

Even Tsukiko vs Kobato got more votes.

Did the admin ban a lot of legitimate voters again or what?
Rules, man, rules. This is no joke. This is real life.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:51   Link #2171
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Only 417 votes?

This is a joke right?

This is suppose to be the match with highest vote.

Madoka vs Ayase vs Homura still gather 1052. Where are the rest of the voters?

Even Tsukiko vs Kobato got more votes.

Did the admin ban a lot of legitimate voters again or what?
The tournament use the code generator system so you don't have to be some specific voter to be able to vote, the only thing you should do is getting the legitinate code to vote. But they also have more restrictions, like banning foreign IPs and suspicious multivote IPs, which started some years ago. People have objected to these rules before, but admins ignored them. And now they announced the new rules that allowed themselves to omit votes, which restricts the tournament even more.

I'm more inclined on the fact that tons of voters have quit the tournament rather than getting their IPs banned. I remember few voters who know Japanese came to frequently discuss the tournament before the new rule started, they also said that they lost interest because of this and won't bother voting anymore. Now we don't see them around here anymore.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:54   Link #2172
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The tournament use the code generator system so you don't have to be some specific voter to be able to vote, the only thing you should do is getting the legitinate code to vote. But they also have more restrictions, like banning foreign IPs and suspicious multivote IPs, which started some years ago. People have objected to these rules before, but admins ignored them. And now they announced the new rules that allowed themselves to omit votes, which restricts the tournament even more.

I'm more inclined on the fact that tons of voters have quit the tournament rather than getting their IPs banned. I remember few voters who know Japanese came to frequently discuss the tournament before the new rule started, they also said that they lost interest because of this and won't bother voting anymore. Now we don't see them around anymore.
What about the other 1052 voters in earlier match? Any reason why they lost interest?
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:55   Link #2173
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With very few resistance voters remaining (leaving out all other possible factors involved in helping Madoka winning), it appears Madoka can't be stopped among the non-PMMM opponents. Madoka doesn't have to worry about facing another PMMM opponent until the semis, so that should give her time to decide if she wants to continue the PMMM domination..... or to make sure her allies (Or at least Mami) don't betray her again with split voting, actually have other opponents snipe her allies.

Of course, her first priority is to pay attention and make sure she doesn't look past whoever the winner of the next match is. I'm guessing Kuroneko, but Akari might be looking for revenge in this rematch.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:56   Link #2174
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Did the admin ban a lot of legitimate voters again or what?
People just give up...the rule change in the middle of everything did pissed off quite a few people.

On the other hand, poor Ayase...but then, she did lose most of the momentum while Madoka is gaining them.

For next round, another revenge match, and I just don't see the result flipping...

Pick/Predict: Kuroneko.
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Old 2013-11-08, 09:59   Link #2175
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Did 2chan or the admin says anything about the low number of votes?

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I expect the total votes will be at least over 400 hundred or somewhere around 500.
Looks like I was half right.
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Old 2013-11-08, 10:01   Link #2176
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What about the other 1052 voters in earlier match? Any reason why they lost interest?
There has already been a hugh decline in total votes after the new rule, around 300-400 votes. Also, they give up because there is a PMMM opponent in the match? The Kobato vs Tsukiko has more votes than both Kyouko vs Sawa and Madoka vs Ayase . If Kuroneko vs Akari also has more votes than this, what I think might seem to be right, which is a shame.
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Old 2013-11-08, 10:24   Link #2177
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I don't think it was Ayase's fault, Homu...

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Only 417 votes?

This is a joke right?

This is suppose to be the match with highest vote.

Madoka vs Ayase vs Homura still gather 1052. Where are the rest of the voters?

Even Tsukiko vs Kobato got more votes.

Did the admin ban a lot of legitimate voters again or what?
Vote count has been in decline since you-know-what happened. This tournament isn't going to last long.
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Old 2013-11-08, 10:44   Link #2178
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Old 2013-11-08, 11:06   Link #2179
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I went to look at the twitter bar on the official saimoe page, it seems that the Yuru Yuri fanbase still has strong fighting spirit. I haven't seen any exploding retweets like that from other factions in previous matches.

Good to know
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Old 2013-11-08, 11:19   Link #2180
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I went to look at the twitter bar on the official saimoe page, it seems that the Yuru Yuri fanbase still has strong fighting spirit. I haven't seen any exploding retweets like that from other factions in previous matches.

Good to know
Going by the low vote counts in the repechage, I'm not sure that it'll translate to superior performance here.

Then again, one can hope. Go Toshinou-san.
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