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Old 2018-04-14, 16:13   Link #681
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lol wtf.

There was like 0 fanservice in the movie, especially compared to the first two movies or even the tv series. In fact, this is probably the least fanservicey of this franchise period. It was deliberately mostly obscured a lala Sailor Moon and they were brief. The way I saw it, it was actually avoiding stuff like that.

This was so short that you had to rewind to see anything questionable. And if you're doing that, the problem is with you.
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Old 2018-04-14, 23:01   Link #682
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Old 2018-04-15, 06:16   Link #683
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Nanoha got some cool new powers. I wonder if Fate and Hayate will get some powerups too in the next movie or get reduced to second tier fighters.
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Old 2018-04-15, 10:47   Link #684
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Nanoha got some cool new powers. I wonder if Fate and Hayate will get some powerups too in the next movie or get reduced to second tier fighters.
They will get them. The Detonation trailer shows it.
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Old 2018-04-15, 11:17   Link #685
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Well for one I wasn't comparing them to previous ones. In my book lingering on full on chest shot for Fate until suit appears is still considerably worse than what Nanoha got where the camera simply sped past any potential troublesome angles.

Oh well it might be me and everything is fine.

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lol wtf.

This was so short that you had to rewind to see anything questionable. And if you're doing that, the problem is with you.
OH THANK YOU SO MUCH on your comment. I ESPECIALLY appreciate the underhanded insults contained in that comment. And no, for your personal information I did NOT rewind just to find something to be offended with (there were plenty of other things that bothered me), and it was something I noticed first time watching it.

And note that my first comment was that Nanoha's one was fine but I was disappointed Fate didn't receive the same courtesy.

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Nanoha got some cool new powers. I wonder if Fate and Hayate will get some powerups too in the next movie or get reduced to second tier fighters.
Probably. The current fight will probably end with Iris GTFO ing with Yuri somehow, allowing for the devices to be upgraded AGAIN. For the final fight.

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Subjective opinion.

Now looking back, this seems to use elements from Force more than GoD to be entirely honest. Sure Florians are there Eltoria, and Yuri too. But their stories have been twisted to slot in Iris, Materials have been changed and aren't even called that. There is all that Force-like weaponry, which while cool is no bueno if it's mass, there is the antagonist essentially having magic cancel (even if it's called hacking) that makes magic useless, the introduction of the main villain is done by shafting Hayate (because to be Hayate is suffering, unfortunately), the body horror aspects of Eclipse with the way how Yuri drains people...

Seems like they tried to use all these elements from these other bits of franchise and CRAM THEM into a story supposedly based on GoD.

No wonder I'm not finding it as entertaining as others. Still better than fucking Vivid, but not good either. Or not as good as it could have been.

OH add a potential former young whiney fugitive (Kyrie) that partially has the powers of the main villain and has a connection to her that will be joining the cast too...
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Old 2018-04-15, 11:33   Link #686
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I don't want to linger anymore on the topic, i'll just say that the reaction had to be exaggerated. From a choreography perspective, Nanoha had more awkward angles while she was still bare. Breast focus isn't the only type of fan service.

I wasn't thinking about the henshin originally. I was asking what other scenes did Fate have fan-service to make it sound like that was an exclusive part of her role in the movie.
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Old 2018-04-15, 11:40   Link #687
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OH THANK YOU SO MUCH on your comment. I ESPECIALLY appreciate the underhanded insults contained in that comment. And no, for your personal information I did NOT rewind just to find something to be offended with (there were plenty of other things that bothered me), and it was something I noticed first time watching it.

And note that my first comment was that Nanoha's one was fine but I was disappointed Fate didn't receive the same courtesy.
Que? Honestly it looked like the same thing to me. Actually, there was less light surrounding Nanoha.

And yes, I stand by my statement that these things happen so fast that it is impossible to care unless you're going out of your way. Sure it's a generalization, and you might not have, but really, compare against any other entry of the franchise and I just find it ridiculous. If you want to complain about Movie 1st or 2nd' one's I'd definitely agree. Honestly, I was actually going to write I'm glad they toned it down, but whatever.
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Old 2018-04-15, 11:42   Link #688
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I wasn't thinking about the henshin originally. I was asking what other scenes did Fate have fan-service to make it sound like that was an exclusive part of her role in the movie.
Hmm, I did not mean to say it's the ENTIRE reason Fate is there, but from the start of the franchise, Fate's stuff and outfits did tend to be more, risque...
But the thing that triggered my mild annoyance is the chest shot that was unnecessarily long IMO. Especially when they didn't do the same for Nanoha.
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Old 2018-04-15, 21:22   Link #689
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They will get them. The Detonation trailer shows it.
I didn't see anything like that in the trailer.
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Old 2018-04-15, 23:09   Link #690
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I didn't see anything like that in the trailer.
I stand corrected. This gives it away.
https://sakuraanimenews.com/2018/01/...world-trailer/

Compare their barrierjacket in Reflection to the one in that image.
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Old 2018-04-16, 13:49   Link #691
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A bit bigger variant: http://www.nanoha.com/detonation/index.html

I see Fortress like addition to Hayate's arsenal, but I don't see much of a change to Fate and more importantly noone except Nanoha is actually glowing. And glow kinda seems to be a Formula thing?
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Old 2018-04-16, 14:25   Link #692
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A bit bigger variant: http://www.nanoha.com/detonation/index.html

I see Fortress like addition to Hayate's arsenal, but I don't see much of a change to Fate and more importantly noone except Nanoha is actually glowing. And glow kinda seems to be a Formula thing?
Fates upgrades have always been cosmetically minor. The difference between that and the one from reflection is still noticeable. Hayate and Fate do get an upgrade of some form.
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Old 2018-04-16, 14:58   Link #693
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Yeah. Now I see it. It's REALLY minor. The white trim on the suit is a bit heavier and most noticeable the skirt type has changed from the white to black and white.

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Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Anything else?

Hayate seems to be same except for Fortress.

But neither of them seem to be glowing, so these could just be another BrJ modes.
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Old 2018-04-16, 15:07   Link #694
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A bit bigger variant: http://www.nanoha.com/detonation/index.html

I see Fortress like addition to Hayate's arsenal, but I don't see much of a change to Fate and more importantly noone except Nanoha is actually glowing. And glow kinda seems to be a Formula thing?
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Yeah. Now I see it. It's REALLY minor. The white trim on the suit is a bit heavier and most noticeable the skirt type has changed from the white to black and white.

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Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

Anything else?

Hayate seems to be same except for Fortress.

But neither of them seem to be glowing, so these could just be another BrJ modes.
The cape in the neck area is positioned differently. And gauntlet missing on her right side? There could be more but the right sided image isn't at a great angle to detect all the differences. The changes look minor but I can't recall any of Fates upgrades ever being drastic from a cosmetic standpoint.

I feel like if they already had these modes they would have used them in reflection. And why even tease them in that image when the Detonation trailer still shows them in their reflection BJ.
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Old 2018-09-15, 01:34   Link #695
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Gee, that sure is a thrilling trailer. Oh wait.

I hate these stupid restrictions.
Well not sure why it's not showing for you. Does it show if you go to youtube directly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzbkv42z66s

Although to be honest, there's really not that much new content anyways.
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Old 2018-09-15, 02:19   Link #696
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Typically those trailers are restricted in the US, which is where I live. Without a proxy that trailer will never show for me.
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Old 2018-09-15, 02:48   Link #697
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Maybe you could try to use a VPN?
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Sure, if I had the money for it.

Which I don't.
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Old 2018-09-15, 11:58   Link #699
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If they are restricted for US it's not working on me. I'm from Europe/Balkans and I see it fine. Maybe only US has a restriction and is waiting for EN "localized" one from your distributor?
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Old 2018-09-15, 23:43   Link #700
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I live in the US too.... :S
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