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View Poll Results: Mahouka [LN/M] - Yotsuba Inheritance Arc (Volume 16) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 67 | 68.37% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 11 | 11.22% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 12.24% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 2.04% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.02% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 2.04% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 1.02% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 2.04% | |
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2015-05-05, 10:47 | Link #1041 | |
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That being said, before I turn off my computer and collapse on my bed, I can see your argument but really know, Tatsuya would try to fall in love with Miyuki. That is basically Tatsuya's version of I love You. |
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2015-05-05, 10:49 | Link #1042 | |
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The thing about lies, though? That's...not true. Some people are perfectly comfortable with lies--especially powerful people. But the thing with the Yotsuba and the Shiba isn't as much as lie as it is a plot: everyone is in on it, the Shibas are perfectly aware of what rules they are breaking and stretching here, and they've chosen to go along with it--at least for now. No one's hiding anything from Tatsuya and Miyuki anymore, they're being brought into the charade and their choosing to play the part because they think it's the best options they've got all things considered. |
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2015-05-05, 10:51 | Link #1043 | |
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The truth is that while Tatsuya and Miyuki were both conceived through the genetic donors we know to be Miya and Tatsurou, Miyuki was heavily genetically modified to restrain Tatsuya. So basically, Tatsuya is the only one who was born naturally. Maya believes that he is her son spiritually because of his magic, which is similar to hers. As for celebrating, would Tatsuya and Miyuki's marriage constitute incest even when they are no longer genetically similar to cause problems from inbreeding? It has been said that incest is strictly forbidden in the literature market. Just look at what happened to Oreimo. Are we safe? |
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2015-05-05, 11:01 | Link #1045 | |
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OK, in regards to the last one, let me explain: There's nothing in the law that says authors nor publishers can't make use of the incest trope as they still want to hold on to the idea of protecting a creator's freedom of expression. What the law is trying to prohibit are the works that glorify or depict incest in a positive light. Yosuga no Sora didn't fall under the ban hammer for example because it delved into the negative implications and consequences of engaging in such a union; OreImo managed to dance around it through the use of heavy implication and by adding Manami to act as the voice of reasonable society, and since Mahouka decided to add Minoru to show why outright inbreeding is a problem, and showed Miyuki anguishing over the fact that she realizes her feelings are improper--I say Mahouka is safe. |
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2015-05-05, 11:02 | Link #1046 | |
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though not an expert in genetics but pretty sure the defects shows up mainly bec that defect was/were in the genes of the siblings from the start with the difference on how dominant that gene is... but bec they merge and is identical to one another, other charateristics are magnified alongside with the defects... if their lineage is pure, no defect whatsoever from both party (their parents) then there would be no problem with them having a child but for that to happen in mahouka... how exactly strick is the jap market about incest and not the step sibling kind of thing... |
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2015-05-05, 11:15 | Link #1049 | ||
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2015-05-05, 11:24 | Link #1050 | |
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I do wish any objection could have come from other clans even though I realize none of them have a leg to stand on, considering it's Yotsuba private business. That being said, I highly doubt this objection will be a big deal because all Maya has to do is decline the marriage proposal, end of story. I assume that's how intermarriages between the 10MC is routinely done: a clan proposes, the recipient clan accepts or declines, no big deal. What confuses me about this proposal is the fact that the Ichijou clan should be aware by now that Miyuki's going to be the head. Why would her name even come up when Masaki's also going to be the head of his clan?
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2015-05-05, 11:29 | Link #1051 | |
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2015-05-05, 11:31 | Link #1052 | |
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2015-05-05, 11:34 | Link #1053 | |
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And let's face it: Having the Shiba siblings marry each other feels like a way for the Yotsuba to flaunt their power as well as keep their power inside the clan--on top of it sounding like another one of their weird, messed-up experiments on mage development. The Yotsuba might as well get the government to issue their members licenses that say "I do what I want!" |
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2015-05-05, 11:41 | Link #1054 | ||
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Well, general Idea: every rule have exception and nobody knows how plot will go except author. From Family perspective, to have Miyuki joining any family is great power spike. Also, we still don't know anything about Ichijou, what are their internal affairs, and what is going on inside family, maybe they are feeling that they lose power and that is what driving them... Probably next 2 volumes will open a lot of internal stuff in each of 10 MC and 100th families... Quote:
As for experiment, it might be option to consider, at least from other 10 MC point of view. As for Masaki moving to Yotsuba, I already answered, it depends on conditions they will agree (if Yotsuba ever agree, which I doubt) |
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2015-05-05, 11:49 | Link #1055 | |
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Or if people want to get Game of Throne-sy here, they're the Dragonstone Baratheons to the Saegusa's Tyrells, and the Yotsuba's Lannisters. |
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2015-05-05, 11:53 | Link #1056 | |
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2015-05-05, 11:55 | Link #1057 | |
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2015-05-05, 11:59 | Link #1058 |
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Or Borgias. Definitely Borgias.
Going back on topic though, the Ichijou just feel really, really tame compared to the others in the 10 MC. The Kudou's experiment with their own too and have their own baggage to deal with, the Saegusa like to plot and get at least finger inside every pie, and the Yotsuba are a messed-up family of twisted eccentrics. |
2015-05-05, 12:03 | Link #1059 | |||
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This is Satou's way of screwing with his fans. This is my advice. If you are Miyuki fan, you can consider this scene as a sign that Miyuki just torpedoed every other ship in Mahouka. And, just take it!!! If you are Mayumi fan or Ayako, Honoka, Erika, or even Pixie fan, you can just take this scene as a sign that Miyuki accepts her feeling towards Tatsuya, and Miyuki is officially in the game along with Mayumi, Honoka, Erika, Pixie, Angie, Ayako, and others. I think, Satou purposely put this to make fans to guess and probably wants to observe how fans react to this. The most important thing is, Satou still has his options. If he chooses Miyuki in the future volumes, we can come back to vol.16 and say "OMG they did it!!!". If Satou chooses another character, this scene will be nothing more than an event where Miyuki accepts her feeling and confesses her love to Tatsuya. Quote:
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So, I am betting, Ichijou's objection may be made by Gouki himself because Miyuki is in Masaki's age group. He probably cannot consider Mayumi because she is older, and Miyuki is simply too superior. In addition, if it is successful, Ichijou clan gains a powerful allie. However, I will not be surprised if Gouki made a decision after witnessing his son crying his eyes out. Last edited by TrueAlchemist; 2015-05-05 at 12:13. |
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2015-05-05, 12:14 | Link #1060 |
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I thought it was pretty obvious that gouki rejected the proposal simply because the yotsuba are skipping agreed-upon 10mc procedures and are trying to consolidate power into one clan. Both are no-nos. They all know the yotsuba will break the rules anyways. That's not a reason for them to not act. I imagine that only the juumonji, saegusa, ichijou, and kudou are the only ones who are powerful enough to even try to check yotsuba and preserve a balance of power
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