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Moreover, threatening Yuna with gun doesn't have to involve killing her soldiers. I am predicting Yuna would be too frightened at that point. If I remember correctly, didn't Yuna pissed in his pants? Quote:
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Of course not, it's been a while since I had something to discuss in the Gundam forum. It's always a fun thing for me.
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Yeah, she could be angry... even sad, but crying was all she did. Its like her age suddenly backtracked several years. Why is that justified? Just because she is a girl? Having to kill her own people is one thing, crying in face of a problem is quite another. Hell, Kira cried many times in the series, but he never done so facing a problem, or use tears to avert one. If she is not able to take risks, she is not cut to be a leader. Then again, I stated quite early on she did not have the qualifications. Or at least she initially seemed like she did, but later lost it. Quote:
Then again, thats taking Gundam politics too seriously, and I think we should try avoiding that. - Tak
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It's justified because different people can react differently and at different times of their lives. Crying has nothing to do with age or gender.
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political factors that prohibit Cagalli from ordering a break. You have to use politics to understand the Destiny scenario; perhaps you hate to take politics in Gundam seriously, but I am afraid it is not avoidable. (Actually, taking politics in Gundam seriously is the way to go!) Understand that the Orb army listened to Yuna for good reasons, but not Cagalli, the best she could do was watching. In additions, it was not politically correct, at that time, for Cagalli to capture Yuna. Quote:
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Speaking of which, wasn't the whole Heliopolis deal controlled by the Sahaku family? I'm not sure if the Athha family knew about it, at least prior to the first episode of SEED. |
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Cagalli isn't much of an effective political leader . as you may have noticed, all of her underlings doubt her leadership (it's a good thing her being an adopted daughter did not raise too many questions) that's why they ask a second opinion from the more-experienced-in-politics Seiran family.
her country is falling apart, her boyfriend left her, and she can't be that convincing to everyone.. I think I kind of understand her somewhat "emotional breakdown" in Destiny.. but her strong personality that faced problems "head-on" greatly diminished . her inspiring lines ins SEED were one of my faves. and it portrayed her as a person who sticks to her ideals. but I guess that Seiran family already had plans to bring her under their fingers.. this is politics of course.. conspiracy is famous in it |
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I'm guessing that it's not her first civilian dress, nor is it any of her Eternal uniforms. Contrast with Relena, who not only resembles Hepburn, but her Queen of the World dress is an homage to Princess Ann's royal dress from Roman Holiday: Here's his 2003 interview with Fukuda, after production with SEED was finished: http://aeug.blogspot.com/2003_11_01_...64206584707878 I don't know how true it is, and I don't know how Fukuda is with interviews, so take it with a grain of salt.
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Thank FATkuda for SEED, but damn, he is a worse troller than an undrugged Kawamori. I mean, I know hes fucking with us, but he isn't very good at it. And it just further proves that he isn't if FATKuda indeed insisted on a please don't record this in any manner or form procedure. Lets look at some tidbits... He wasn't really a hot-blooded-type character (Yzak), but his personality changed due to Seki-san's (Tomokazu Seki = VA for Yzak) acting. Right, apparently FATKuda forgot that Tomo-kun can assume his Sagara Sousuke persona, who as we all know, is both calm and collected. Unfortunately, had that happened, he'd no doubt become a scene stealer and render an already dimwitted Athrun into a fucking moron! Lacus was Audrey Hepburn. We know this, we heard this, we know who inspired Lacus... but in what way, exactly? Sure, Hepburn played roles where she is royalty with some sense of holier-than-thou ideal, but if that is all that inspired Lacus, then the inspiration is at best superficial. Certainly I cannot recall any Hepburness based on Lacus' wardrobe. Hell, if anything, most fans remember Lacus in her combat-yukata than anything else she wears. Kira's model was Tatsuya Fujiwara (played Shuya Nanahara in Battle Royale) I knew it! I knew it! He doesn't really like either of them (Fllay and Lacus) Lacus notwithstanding. This was changed in Destiny for the better (whew), but... DUH!! Of course Kira wouldn't like Fllay for the obvious reason that this was a woman who psychologically tortured and eventually caused a near miss for the former. I am surprised he didn't have more to say about Fllay. I am quite happy this interview was done after SEED and not Destiny. Had it been, a lot of people would be waiting outside of his studio with pitchforks and torches. - Tak
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the creators of GUNDAM are very fond of this Hepburn woman, aren't they??
but perhaps so far, Mineva Lao Zabi is my favorite Audrey Hepburn rip-off (even if Unicorn isn't finished yet) .. I'm quite appealed to her strong (and very confusing) personality. Relena just kinda annoyed me.. and Lacus.. well.. I'm a Lacus fan (let's just end it there ) |
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What are some of the truthiness that you can find in his interview?
Here's what I can find: *Dearka being turned face because Buster Gunpla sales were low *Lacus being a flat character throughout the series, and even through Destiny
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I don't know if her past was mentioned in Destiny, but what's mentioned in Seed is the smallest, IMO. Going by memory, here's what I can think about her past:
Are Fukuda/Morosawa keeping Lacus's past as mysterious as possible? Who do they think Lacus is, Wolverine (pre-House of M)?
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On the other hand, Kira's past was the only one that left some sort of an impact. Murre and Natarle did not have much of a backstory revealed in the series, with the exception to Murre possibly having a pilot as an ex. But they weren't necessary and did not make them better characters. While Gladys certain had a backstory, (a very intertwined one at that) I felt it had little impact on her character, and was not entirely necessary. Quote:
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I kinda liked that kind of twist Shinn on the other hand there's nothing really special about him.. at the beginning of Destiny i was really looking forward to a Kira and Shinn rivalry since i thought Shinn blamed the Freedom for killing his parents (in truth, he was blaming the WHOLE of ORB).. |
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I mentioned in one of my earlier posts that Durandal was more or less correct when he died: there was no escaping destiny. Was Kira always destined to be the perfect soldier, no matter how he tries to run away? As for Lacus, has she wanted to become the leader of the PLANTs?
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