2012-03-13, 05:31 | Link #20101 |
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That article leaves out some other, very important points:
- The secret services don't counter spies from "friendly nations" (the U.S. and France probably being the most active) - They are not known for being competent Then these laughable "punishments", like the one mentioned in the article. One year suspended sentence plus 4000 Euro fine, which translates to no punishment at all. A few years ago a translator tried (or succeeded?) to sell plans for German submarines to China. Again, one year suspended sentence. The other problem is that German management is totally greedy and practicably gives China all the know-how they want anyways. A big German chemical firm has a factory plus research nearby and they were very active to keep everything secret. Then they wanted to become more active on the Chinese market and now you could see Chinese go around the German factory and copying everything with the approval of the management. (Though this "happy" know-how transfer is probably prevalent in all big western companies.) |
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The US already had their military tech siphoned from a certain place in SEA - they hire permanent residents as their military commanders. I don't think I have to tell anyone here where it is.
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2012-03-13, 13:16 | Link #20104 | |
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2012-03-13, 14:04 | Link #20105 |
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it's (really) official...
China now has 3rd gen. stealth tech and won't be surprised if it finds its way in a J-20. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1226296400154 ... and this new revelations simply takes the cake http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/03...ato-officials/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...s-details.html Last edited by flying ^; 2012-03-13 at 14:19. |
2012-03-13, 14:31 | Link #20107 |
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Libya theater could've been the perfect testbed... but U.S. is too modest and fear setting precedent others to follow.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/wo...ted-by-us.html |
2012-03-13, 14:34 | Link #20108 | |
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Well, that patriot hacker guy has been fucking with Iran for a while now. Maybe he is actually working for the US gov instead of by himself as he claims.
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2012-03-13, 17:18 | Link #20109 | |
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2012-03-13, 17:56 | Link #20110 |
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Shealth is always a race between making something disappear and finding it with technology. Be it camoflague, radar benting shapes, radar absorption materials, or even optical masking/invisibility fields....someone will try to make a counter just as quickly at the new technology comes out.
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2012-03-13, 18:47 | Link #20111 | |
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What I wonder is what will be done with the F-35 program now. |
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2012-03-13, 19:09 | Link #20112 |
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The F-35 is still slated to replace a lot of late 1970s and 1980s aircraft, so it will probably still be completed and put into production. At least the A and C models. The B model is the one they seem to be having the technical trouble with.
If they don't, they will have a problem filling in the roles as those older aircraft become too old and worn out to service for combat duty.
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2012-03-13, 21:57 | Link #20116 | |
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If an Arab was to do the exact same crime, he's a terrorist. But when an American soldier does it, they call him a victim of emotional breakdown. I despise these double standard bigots, yet these Beck-Limbaugh wannabes seem to come out in droves.
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2012-03-13, 22:15 | Link #20117 |
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What did they call it now? Americocentrism?
I product of American social world view and education I suppose. A sense of superiority and entitlement that you are in the right, that any mistake you or your people do are excusable due to your stature. It's a sad delusion.
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2012-03-13, 22:21 | Link #20118 | |
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Its like My Lai... at some point you drive your troops close enough to the edge and some of them go over. Duh. Does that excuse this guy (or anyone else who does this?)? No.... he murdered many children at close range in a methodical series of executions. There's no defense and its an insult to everyone else who is coping with the ridiculous conditions in the military. Conditions created by malicious idiots like Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney....
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2012-03-13, 22:26 | Link #20119 | |
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The problem with handing him over to the Afghans and allowing their justice system to sort him out is that it sets a precedent. As of now, America has largely resisted foreign justice systems scrutinizing our soldiers. If a soldier commits a crime, we bring him or her back and let the American justice system handle the case. Considering that a number of countries have rather corrupt justice systems, this is arguably a good thing. The problem is that it doesn't bring any closure to the country that suffered the crime. In a way, it's a lose-lose situation. If we hand the soldier over, the government will receive backlash from people who claim that it isn't supporting the troops. It may also have negative consequences within the military. If we bring the soldier back to America, the Afghans will be left simmering. To be honest, though, the Afghans will likely be upset about the situation no matter where the soldier is prosecuted - and rightfully so. It would seem that the government would cut some of its losses by trying the soldier in the American justice system.
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2012-03-13, 22:36 | Link #20120 |
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True.. its just that we've set poor precedent with that soldier who massacred Iraqi families. By the time it was whitewashed down, he got very little punishment.
(And you don't even want to look up the My Lai troops in Vietnam - they basically got away with it and the troops that tried to stop them spent 30 years being crucified before they were acknowledged as having tried to do the right thing)
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