2011-11-06, 15:45 | Link #421 |
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Like how Gon was the one that helped everyone out in both parts. He found the pig's weakness and then was able to sense the updraft. Lol how everyone got denied the first time. Can't believe the 2nd phase finished in 1 ep while the 1st phase was so long.
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2011-11-06, 15:50 | Link #422 | ||||
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Yeah, the searching and sliding scenes are in the manga. Killua isn't there, but it's still more faithful than Nippon Animation's version. More on that in my next post. Quote:
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2011-11-06, 20:14 | Link #424 | |
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Anyways, comparison. Spoiler for HxH Episode 6 Comparison:
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2011-11-07, 01:10 | Link #432 | ||
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In the Madhouse version, Buhara and Menchi give the following rules: the Exam is based upon cooking, the ingredient is pork and one can use any pig within the Visca forest (despite there only being one type), at least one of the facilities provided (grill, knives, vegetables, sink, salt, pepper, skewer) need to be used, and the taste needs to be "delicious." It's very ambiguous--even if the candidates find the Great Stamp, the examiners intentionally don't specify that there's only one type of pig in the forest reserve. Observation and originality are key--one needs to seek out the Great Stamp, find its weakness, and then deduce how to prepare it using all of the tools at their disposal. Granted, the sushi test was even more ambiguous due to no one other than Hanzo encountering it before. But the pork test in the Madhouse version has the same spirit of the sushi exam, which is why I accept it. These are the exact same rules as the sushi exam--switch the fish out for the pig, and you have the same story. The Madhouse version combined the candidates' disdain for cooking into both parts of the second phase; the 2011 series also incorporated the candidates' disparagement of the Gourmet Hunter occupation. The spirit is the same, regardless of whether or not the events follow the manga to a T. Menchi's irrationality was more understandable in the 1999 version because she was given more reasons to be annoyed: no one takes the exam seriously, they think that Gourmet Hunters are ridiculous, and then the correct methods are revealed to everyone by the contestants. This was a year in which Menchi would have been satisfied if 0-10 candidates passed her exam. Menchi's profession is insulted before the exam even begins in the 2011 version, and then all of the contestants believe that they only need to roast the pig to pass--so Menchi gets annoyed earlier than before. Regardless, Netero finds her exam unacceptable in all versions. Menchi's passion for cooking and her picky tastes are the same in all of the versions. I think that the Madhouse series was actually more true to her character than the Nippon Animation version was--despite the great differences. In the 1999 series, Menchi stays upset without fully understanding the depths of what she'd done by failing the entire pool. She's less reluctant to conduct another version of the second phase in the 2011 series. Menchi is a better rounded person, whereas in Nippon Animation's adaptation, she's in permabitch mode for the entirety of both episodes 9 and 10. Though I do agree with your deduction about the small island nation and knives--especially considering that their workstations have no ovens or stoves. It definitely is clever--I just feel as if the Madhouse adaptation did an admirable job combining the second phase into one episode. Quote:
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2011-11-07, 01:19 | Link #433 | |
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That's why the two test is put together.
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2011-11-07, 03:05 | Link #434 |
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I would disagree that the 2011 version's Menchi is more true to her character or even actually more likable. She in the original made brilliant test of observation that was ruined by the loud mouthed Hanzo telling everyone the recipe and then she is faced with the prospect of everyone passing. Here she panics and decides to start judging by taste although she originally was not planning to. Through her high standards and some spite was not able to let anyone pass. This fulfills the role inexperienced , impulsive but not necessarily bad natured genius that Satoz describes earlier. (which was also taken out)
However in this new version she loses almost everything that makes her situation relatable and sympathetic and makes her into more of a stuck up bitch than the original. Her criteria is not clear at all and she puts everyone through the cooking process out of pure spite rather than unintentionally in the original. |
2011-11-07, 06:15 | Link #435 | |
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I love the sushi test in the 99 version , I understand why people hate this episode...
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and Menchi pink hair color is better, than green but in this version, I think Menchi is more sexy.... (is yellow the official hair color of Menchi? coz it seems that everyone in the other site claims it to be?) I wonder why did Togashi let this happen, but still nice episode... from 5 i rate this 3. |
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2011-11-07, 09:38 | Link #436 |
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For first timers and have no idea about Hunter x hunter especially young audience, I'll rate episode 6 as 10.
For anyone that watched the first anime version and read the manga, I'll rate this episode as 6. At least they made it appealing but concise and straight to the point. If sushi part is added, I might rate this as 9. For some reason, Aya Hirano's one episode VA had something to do with this part compressed into one episode. |
2011-11-07, 11:29 | Link #437 | |||
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I agree that the sushi test really brings out Menchi's character in different angles, but...
I viewed her as more of a bitch in the manga. First, she made a sushi for a test. I mean, if people don't get the looks and the taste, that's not sushi. With only observation, there is no way they can know how to make sushi. Add that the examinees can only get freshwater fish, that's going to affect the taste. The fat guy's question to her about the kind of fish being used really shows that this is not a general challenge, but a challenge fit only for experienced cooks. From the start, the examinees' only way to pass is to get into details of making a sushi, and for her to pass them is to observe the details; which both are not even good news due to her perfectionist outlook in preparing food. She did not even give a concrete guess to the examinees. That's why the result is going to be obvious. There is no cooks in the examinees and they fail whatever happens. Now, the second test she gives really contrast what she did in the sushi exam. Acknowledged her faults in the first test. She shows them how to do it. And the skills needed to pass applies to a more broader examinees. I do think at first this is a cheesy test, like the pig test, but it works in contrast and views more of Menchi's faults if you look back. And we get to see why she became a Gourmet Hunter. (I did watch the old anime, but that was long time ago, so I won't comment on that. ) In this adaptation, I think Menchi is less of a bitch. Her letting the fat guy give the challenge means she's more open to the purpose of the exam. Her being pissed off at the contestants belittling her job is also in the scope of her character. In the manga, it's one of the reasons she made the sushi test. _____________ Quote:
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2011-11-07, 12:44 | Link #438 | |
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In both cases her judgments are flawed, but in the Madhouse adaptation there isn't even a test in the first place. It just makes no sense. |
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2011-11-07, 12:54 | Link #439 |
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I'm glad they removed the sushi test. Between this chef test, the airboat and then the naval filler following that I almost dropped the series back in 1999. The episodes were just soo boring and dragged out.
You guys keep talking about how its a huge shame no sushi thing. WHY? Tell me how that has any connection to the rest of the series? We don't see either of those two hunters EVER again, we never have any sort of cooking or anything shown ever again in the series. Testing observation? Um hello, nobody suceeded, so shouldn't they have all failed in that regard anyway? Having them all fail in observation test and yet then have the president come and overrule her seems dumb imo as well. |
2011-11-07, 13:08 | Link #440 | |
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The contestants also did some observation too when they subdued the rampaging pigs. Though, I already know you're not convince by just that. |
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