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Grifis · 2012-10-28, 21:10

Ep 4 is solid. T'is time for Aladdin and the princess to see that they're too naive. T'is time for Aladdin to choose a king.

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-10-28, 21:30

Why the hell did they bring a warmonger to a diplomatic talk =_=; ?

On a lighter note, is any breasts really fine for Aladdin

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FlareKnight · 2012-10-28, 21:36

Well that sucks. Things were looking perhaps too good. Sadly if one person wants a fight then it's really hard to prevent them. No matter how much the Princess and the old woman want peace, when tensions are that high one person can start a war. The question now is how bad is this going to get? How much damage control can Aladdin do here?

On a lighter note, good work by Alibaba with his money. Paying off his debts, freeing slaves, and waiting for Aladdin to get his ass back there. Got a chuckle that the frightening woman from the first episode was brought along with the other dancing girls

. Nice chat with Morgiana who is...pretty sure she's grateful

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Why the hell did they bring a warmonger to a diplomatic talk =_=; ?

Yeah, that's always a good plan. I'd have to assume he was forced into the Princesses party. Either because someone wants a whole lot of bloodshed, or they'd rather shove the trouble of dealing with him onto someone else

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thundrakkon · 2012-10-28, 21:59

I spent half the episode nervous whenever they had a nice peaceful scene. I was expecting a surprise attack the whole time, and bam, in the end it happened. *sigh* Oh well, it was expected, since the showed that jerk of a general with the princess.

The only way this can be resolved semi-peacefully is that the general must die. Only then will things move forward.

I'm wondering if Alibaba will suddenly reach them in time?

Oh, so yeah, this tribe was truly based off of the Mongolians afterall, and it looks like the princess is from Imperial China.

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-28, 22:05

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Originally Posted by Grifis

T'is time for Aladdin to choose a king.

He already did. It's Alibaba. Amon mentioned that in episode 3, remember?

Kaoru Chujo · 2012-10-29, 02:04

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Originally Posted by Kakkou

In other news, ED嫌い or "I hate (the) ED" became a trending topic on twitter Japan not long after this week's episode aired. Seemed like many were puzzled at first but came to the conclusion that it referred to Magi's ED given the timing....

I'm baffled. This is the same ED the show has always had, and it's good idol-pop. What's to hate? Must be some other show. Or else reflex hatred for idol-pop, to match the reflex love for it in other circles.

Enjoyed the episode. A little diplomatic complexity. Joining an empire voluntarily rather than being beaten into it is a very rational approach, it seems to me. How will the reasonable princess deal with the unreasonable general? But it is perfectly normal to bring your top general to a diplomatic meeting. The thing is, you should have him under your control before you go.

articuzwolf · 2012-10-29, 02:44

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

He already did. It's Alibaba. Amon mentioned that in episode 3, remember?

yeah but Aladdin hasn't specifically choose Alibaba since he wasn't even aware what Magi is until this episode...

Spoiler for will it happen?:

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-29, 03:19

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Originally Posted by articuzwolf

yeah but Aladdin hasn't specifically choose Alibaba since he wasn't even aware what Magi is until this episode...

Well I was thinking it might no be a conscious decision, but something more like how a Kirin chooses a king in Twelve Kingdoms. They're instinctively drawn to whoever is fated to be king. I got the feeling it was the same for Aladdin: he didn't even know he's a magi, or that had to choose a king candidate, but he ended up meeting Alibaba and felt drawn to him somehow. He chose him, even though he didn't even know he did.

garbage · 2012-10-29, 04:08

^ yup that's also my take on it, after all AMON acknowledged it and he definitely know more about the process than both Alibaba and Aladdin. and they did clear the dungeon together... remember that door thingy with two right hand key-locks. All others after this including stating it verbally would just be formalities then.

Kanon · 2012-10-29, 06:09

I figured something like that was going to happen, but the ending was abrupt. If the old lady doesn't survive, then I don't think there is any chance for peace. Her "children" won't forgive the other side so easily.

I enjoy the diplomatic aspect of the episode. I hope we'll see more of that down the road.

GDiddy · 2012-10-29, 09:43

Spoiler:

I hate this term so, so much though...but goddamn Aladdin is sooo moeee and hilarious in his love for teh bewbs

And I'm glad that the slave girl's going to be sticking around. Nice to see a kickass female this season(along with the chick from Psycho Pass) that's not going to be just used as fanservice (Booby General from K, I'm talking to you)

Kaioshin Sama · 2012-10-29, 12:26

I'd swear Tomino was writing this with the two very similar sounding kingdom names in Kou and Kouga and if I had to guess I would imagine that the Kou Empire is destined to be one of those antagonistic militaristic villain factions that just so happens to have a lot of otherwise good people in it. Kind of like Zeon from Gundam or the Archadian Empire from Final Fantasy XII for example. Too bad the classically peace oriented princess always seem to have issues controlling their armies and there always seems to be at least one war mongering general/prime minister/vizier what have you that loves to spoil their otherwise good intentions. She seemed pretty serious about letting the Kouga keep their way of life in exchange for joining the empire (a common tactic used by the Persian Empire to avoid unnecessary campaigns and keep the potential for rebellions lower in ancient history who I think the Kou are supposed to be an allegory for...maybe?), but alas that can't be now that Baba is dead.

I guess it falls to Dolge and his Asuna Yuuki clone wife to lead the counterattack and surely Aladdin will be there to try to stop things from escalating too much, but I think it's going to fall to whether Hakuei can find the strength of leadership to control her army and wrest it away from Ryosai that will decide the level of bloodshed.

Kaihan · 2012-10-29, 13:04

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

I'm baffled. This is the same ED the show has always had, and it's good idol-pop. What's to hate? Must be some other show. Or else reflex hatred for idol-pop, to match the reflex love for it in other circles.

Probably have to do with the timing and mood. Playing a happy ending song a few seconds after Elder Baba was shot.

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I guess it falls to Dolge and his Asuna Yuuki clone wife to lead the counterattack and surely Aladdin will be there to try to stop things from escalating too much,

I thought I was the only one. Her red and white clothes made me thought it was Asuna at first.

ookamigirl · 2012-10-29, 13:26

Looks like Alibaba was bored without Aladdin.
At least he did something good with his treasure.
Aladdin met some interesting new friends.
Those Kou empire people were not very nice.
Seems like Aladdin always shows up somewhere where people need help.
That Granny was really nice and has some interesting things to say.

Kaoru Chujo · 2012-10-29, 13:28

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Originally Posted by Kaihan

Probably have to do with the timing and mood. Playing a happy ending song a few seconds after Elder Baba was shot....

You're probably right. But I took it as a bit of a hint that all could end well. And those kinds of things don't usually bother me, anyway. OP/EDs are for the show overall rather than for any one episode.

Tsundere Louise · 2012-10-29, 14:04

So far this episode is the best manga adaptation. I really hope that they will follow now more.

FlareKnight · 2012-10-29, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

You're probably right. But I took it as a bit of a hint that all could end well. And those kinds of things don't usually bother me, anyway. OP/EDs are for the show overall rather than for any one episode.

Yeah, there are usually going to be episodes where an OP or ED doesn't quite fit the mood. At least they tried to make a bit of a gap with the couple seconds of black screen before kicking into the ED.

On that topic though, I guess this answers where Aladdin gets the staff shown in said ED. I suppose he'd carry it with him as a reminder of Chagan.

Haak · 2012-10-29, 15:03

God damn that ending. God damn it to hell...

Kanon · 2012-10-29, 16:20

Do we know of much of his fortune Alibaba spend to free the slaves? That was very kind and honorable act. He's definitely the kind of man you'd want to have as King.

Kazu-kun · 2012-10-29, 16:30

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Do we know of much of his fortune Alibaba spend to free the slaves?

Spoiler for manga info:

2012-10-28, 21:30	Link #782
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Why the hell did they bring a warmonger to a diplomatic talk =_=; ? On a lighter note, is any breasts really fine for Aladdin ?! __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2012-10-28, 21:59	Link #784
thundrakkon Anime-Only Viewer Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA	I spent half the episode nervous whenever they had a nice peaceful scene. I was expecting a surprise attack the whole time, and bam, in the end it happened. sigh Oh well, it was expected, since the showed that jerk of a general with the princess. The only way this can be resolved semi-peacefully is that the general must die. Only then will things move forward. I'm wondering if Alibaba will suddenly reach them in time? Oh, so yeah, this tribe was truly based off of the Mongolians afterall, and it looks like the princess is from Imperial China. __________________

2012-10-29, 06:09	Link #790
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	I figured something like that was going to happen, but the ending was abrupt. If the old lady doesn't survive, then I don't think there is any chance for peace. Her "children" won't forgive the other side so easily. I enjoy the diplomatic aspect of the episode. I hope we'll see more of that down the road. __________________

2012-10-29, 09:43	Link #791
GDiddy Sisterhood of the Desu Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: in a van by the river	Spoiler: I'd probaly would be sad if I didn't know this was going to happen from the manga...which in hurricane-induced boredom I've been reading...and am quite addicted. I hate this term so, so much though...but goddamn Aladdin is sooo moeee and hilarious in his love for teh bewbs And I'm glad that the slave girl's going to be sticking around. Nice to see a kickass female this season(along with the chick from Psycho Pass) that's not going to be just used as fanservice (Booby General from K, I'm talking to you)

2012-10-29, 13:26	Link #794
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Looks like Alibaba was bored without Aladdin. At least he did something good with his treasure. Aladdin met some interesting new friends. Those Kou empire people were not very nice. Seems like Aladdin always shows up somewhere where people need help. That Granny was really nice and has some interesting things to say. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2012-10-28, 21:10	Link #781
Grifis Eternal Dreamer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Caladan	Ep 4 is solid. T'is time for Aladdin and the princess to see that they're too naive. T'is time for Aladdin to choose a king.

2012-10-29, 04:08	Link #789
garbage Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	^ yup that's also my take on it, after all AMON acknowledged it and he definitely know more about the process than both Alibaba and Aladdin. and they did clear the dungeon together... remember that door thingy with two right hand key-locks. All others after this including stating it verbally would just be formalities then.

2012-10-29, 12:26	Link #792
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	I'd swear Tomino was writing this with the two very similar sounding kingdom names in Kou and Kouga and if I had to guess I would imagine that the Kou Empire is destined to be one of those antagonistic militaristic villain factions that just so happens to have a lot of otherwise good people in it. Kind of like Zeon from Gundam or the Archadian Empire from Final Fantasy XII for example. Too bad the classically peace oriented princess always seem to have issues controlling their armies and there always seems to be at least one war mongering general/prime minister/vizier what have you that loves to spoil their otherwise good intentions. She seemed pretty serious about letting the Kouga keep their way of life in exchange for joining the empire (a common tactic used by the Persian Empire to avoid unnecessary campaigns and keep the potential for rebellions lower in ancient history who I think the Kou are supposed to be an allegory for...maybe?), but alas that can't be now that Baba is dead. I guess it falls to Dolge and his Asuna Yuuki clone wife to lead the counterattack and surely Aladdin will be there to try to stop things from escalating too much, but I think it's going to fall to whether Hakuei can find the strength of leadership to control her army and wrest it away from Ryosai that will decide the level of bloodshed.

2012-10-29, 14:04	Link #796
Tsundere Louise D-Don't stare, baka... Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Tristinian Academy of Magic	So far this episode is the best manga adaptation. I really hope that they will follow now more. __________________

2012-10-29, 15:03	Link #798
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	God damn that ending. God damn it to hell... __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Do we know of much of his fortune Alibaba spend to free the slaves? That was very kind and honorable act. He's definitely the kind of man you'd want to have as King. __________________